Forum Post: More Than 1 Million Sign to Recall Walker
Posted 12 years ago on Jan. 17, 2012, 5:32 p.m. EST by GirlFriday
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Democratic lawyer Jeremy Levinson warned that the GAB's announcement last week that is changing the process for validating signatures should not slow down voters' expectation of a timely election.
"If they've gone off and reinvented the process at the last minute in a way that turns it into a lingering, drawn-out process, it will be a violation of the statute," Levinson said.
"There is no reason they can't just stop and certify once they know the target is met," Tate added.
Today at 3:00, Fort Atkinson forklift operator Julie Wells, the citizen who filed the papers to launch the recall, will lead a parade through downtown Madison to the GAB offices to deliver 300,000 pages of petitions. Early today, the GAB offices were inspected by a structural engineer to make sure they could withstand the weight of the 3,000 pounds of documents. http://www.progressive.org/more_than_1_million_sign_to_recall_walker.html
Buh, bye Governor Koch...............er, Walker.
Now can we get rid of the rest teabagge(r)s?
Go Gov Walker, stomp on them libtards and get rid of the friggin unions. Trumka will be a greeter at Walmart by time we get done bitch slapping his azz
Yeah-man.
Get rid of schmucks named Shooz. Commie ass.
What will he do with his smirk after this?
Choke, I hope.
LOL!
This fight is far from over, but this looks like progress to me. Never underestimate the foe and you'll be okay.
Sure, fight your neighbor that doesn't happen to work for government. Argue for tax increases and bigger government, just because you work there. Have a fit because the boss represents the taxpayer for change and not just the employees. Wisconsin is about if reform can survive. We'll see.
Unions and Occupy are the only forces the 99% have in this country. A victory for them is a victory for all. Let the one percent pay their taxes, let's end the wars on drugs and "terror." Let's get our soldiers back home and let's have wages and salaries for all rise to a point where people can work and live in decency.
Yeah, keep moving. What a load of shit. Government union employees are a tiny minority, but they skim off of the taxpayers because they control both sides of the negotiating table. A victory for them comes at the expense of everyone else.
If Wisconsinites cave, our republic is over. It will be impossible to stop this runaway out of control government.
It really is an important test. Is the point of government to benefit its citizens or just the people that work there.
It's basic corruption. Don't like the boss? Vote yourself a new one. It's wrong and in need of reform.
No shit. People better turn out for this one.
I think they will. The unions took the same shot earlier at certain legislators and at the State Supreme Court. Both were failures. People are starting to get it. It's just so blatant this time.
You are right, it is far from over.
Translation: people are starting to wake up and take a long hard look at who they elected in 2010, and they don't really like what they're seeing. Walker and his ilk sounded great when everyone was caught up in the backlash against Obama and the rhetoric of lower taxes and taking the burden off the middle class sounded like a wonderful idea. Once people come face to face with how exactly these men plan to "fix" things, all that changes. It's good to see Wisconsin waking up...
No, the unions want a more compliant boss. See, government workers get a bit upset when they don't own both sides of the negotiating table at our expense.
Liberals line up reflexively behind government and unions, but they're making a mistake this time. The employees are walking off with the store in retirement benefits and that means a crowding out of the programs that liberals claim to care about. Sure, cheer it on.
Another day another Scab upset. America is a union.
No, it's the far more numerous working families that just don't happen to work for government that are awakening to the corruption. It's been an insider deal for too long with unions negotiating with their hand picked bosses.
In private companies, unions negotiate at an honest arm's length. If they foist something too screwy on a company, the company breaks. But in government, they elect their own bosses. For anyone not believing that, what the fuck do you think is going on in Wisconsin right before your eyes?
The numerous families have been sold out by corporations. Goverment has been corrupted by your beloved corporations. Unions are the last defence against your facist brothers.
Last defense? Hardly. Just another facet of corruption that needs undoing.
F the unions and they are going by the way of the dinosaur
Like I said another day another scab. Scabs fall away unions are here to stay.
You got it loser, unions down to 10% of the workforce and dropping
Wages down benneys down well paying jobs going going almost gone. People will no longer put up with your bs,Mr Scab
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I don't think they realize that it is almost over for them. We will not return to a feudal society. I think that we have all of these big fish small pond flakes that imagine themselves to be little Corleones.
Basically, it means that public employee unions are being allowed to preserve benefit packages that pretty much every employee ought to have and that public employees are being allowed to have unions (which, again, pretty much every non-management employee should be able to have) and that we're not going to take the consequences of managerial deficiencies and anemic tax revenues out on working people.
The attitude of "cut, cut, cut" that's coming from this new crop of Republican governors is completely unacceptable. You want to march through, break unions, and slash funding to municipalities for necessary services rather than man up and send the bill to the people who can actually afford to pay it, and during economic times like these that's doubly unacceptable. The sooner Walker goes out on the street the better.
It means corruption. When the boss doesn't fall into line, they put their voter caps on and simply elect one that will. We have a whole class now that continuously advocates for bigger government and tax increase just because they work there. It's broken. Even FDR knew better than to unleash this monster.
Ahh, sorry to break it to you, but it's the working people that don't happen to work for government that pay for it. And there's more of them. So, siding with working people means getting control of government back from its employees.
Siding with working people means providing strong, functioning unions to non-management employees, reinstating state-level corporate income taxes to ensure that funding continues to be distributed for public services such as roads, schools, and fire houses, and providing adequate rights to the people who make your administration work. If you refuse to do that then you can just sign my name on the recall petition. Also, what's so bad about the ability to put your boss on the street when he decides that he's going to do as he pleases? I think this country would be a lot healthier if all workers had that ability.
Sure, I get it. I already know that government employees are relentless advocates for tax increases.
If you honestly do give a shit about what government's supposed to do, you should line up with Walker. Right now, all that is being crowded out by union giveaways, or better put, lootaways.
Government unions talk as though they're sticking it to the Man. But when it comes to government, all they're really doing is sticking it to their neighbors.
There has to be a better way than simply cutting everything in sight; there are a number of different strategies that a governor could float to raise at least part of necessary revenues for continuing to provide public service and respect the collective bargaining rights of your employees.
Taxes don't have to be regressive (sales taxes, property taxes) but can be levied in such a manner as to hit only those who can really afford to pay them. Wisconsin has a corporate income tax around 7.9%, adding a second bracket at 15% for firms making over $60M in AGI and a 5% multimillionaire tax levied on all income over $2 million would have been a start, and I would have personally started by cutting my salary in half to start the year off. That would have been a better way to deal with the crisis rather than attacking unions and slashing funding to schools.
They aren't cutting everything in sight. Spending is still rising. This was a rare shot at genuine form of a corrupted and broken process and Walker took it.
I understand that, raising taxes will always make the government unions happier. That's what they advocate and that's what they vote for. But the fucker up and broken part is that they do that simply because they work there. They hit the ball only to catch it themselves.
Except that taxes raised in that manner are not unfair or unacceptable, nor are they targeting the middle class or the people who can't afford to take any more hits. The average public employee salary in Wisconsin is about $50,000 per year, which is solidly working to middle class, and that's pretty much a fair salary as far as I'm concerned. There's no reason why that should drop much at all.
On top of that, the pension complaint isn't about workers getting away with all kinds of special giveaways, it's about the fact that nobody's been bothering to make sure that the state put its half of the retirement money into the appropriate accounts and now Walker is trying to blame the workers for it rather than put in what he owes them.
Eventually, just a little more after just a little more let's take it from this guy now because he won't notice-thing runs its course.
It's about retirement entitlements, healthcare costs, and work rules. It's about who is running things and why.
Understand something: Walker doesn't "owe" anything. What you're looking for comes from your neighbors that don't happen to work for government. Don't protest in Madison, make you case to a neighbor.
Apparently somebody else already did; enough of my "neighbors" in Wisconsin agree with me that Walker's going to be called to account for what he tried to pull within about six months...
They may. We know where the employees stand, that's clear. So, they'll turn up as voters to see what they can do for themselves at the office.
Wisconsin the gift that keeps on giving.
Wisconsin Electoral math:
Wisconsin's total population, as of 2009, is 5.6 million. Including children and any others ineligible to vote.
The petitions for recall of Gov. Walker are reported to have gathered 1 million signatures.
In 2008 Wisconsin had a total voting age population of 4,306,876.
Their total turnout that year was 2,997,086. http://elections.gmu.edu/Turnout_2008G.html
Most any petition drive is more a proportional representation of the population sentiment than it is a compilation of actual total sentiment. So if each person who signed is representative of just one more like-minded Wisconsin voter they have an easy win for recalling Walker.
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This says it much better.
http://occupywallst.org/forum/wisconsin-unions-shoot-for-more-obedient-boss/
Translation: Union workers and liberals want higher taxes, to pay for their unsustainable salaries and pensions.
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Translation: No Koch whores.
Can we hope that others in office are paying attention? and taking notes?
Lets see. . . . what not to do to piss off the people to severely . . . . huh.
Who knew?
Right?
Go Gov Walker, stomp on them libtards and get rid of the friggin unions. Trumka will be a greeter at Walmart by time we get done bitch slapping his azz
Never mind that some people signed 80 times and the names of mickey mouse and Adolf Hitler are being counted. He also took the state out of a major deficit, to a surplus. We also shouldn't mention the property taxes have now raised the lowest in 15 years. But yeah lets kick him out of office, good idea. This thing needs a "roll eyes" smiley
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Another recall election FRAUD like last time??? http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/11/caught-on-tape-occupy-milwaukee-commits-recall-walker-fraud-give-kids-cigs-for-their-signature-video/
Hahahahahahaha. Is this what these dickheads around here call direct democracy?
you got it
They started the process of validating the signatures. The process is slow but they did approve some already. Mr. I. M. Dead, Bill Board, I. P Freely, Mal-Cum X, Jane and Dill Doe, Jimmy Hoffa, GirlFriday, Obama-BinLaudin
I know Mickey Mouse signed the petition,,,, several times.
It will take months to find the democrat legislators that left and hid in another state during the big vote to come back.
Go Gov Walker. Kick the chit out of the useless libtards
No more Koch whores. :D
Douche. You stink from putting out for all those libtards at your 12' wide trailer.
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