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Forum Post: More Ron Paul on How the South will Rise Again

Posted 12 years ago on Jan. 24, 2012, 6:14 p.m. EST by wiseoldowl (86)
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Here is some Revisionist Civil War History from the man himself:


I would love to hear how Ron Paul supporters will twist and turn and spin this into something other than what it is. Just like they did with his racist newsletters that was edited by his own family before dinner every night that lead to interesting dinner time conversations at the Paul house



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[-] 2 points by WatTyler (263) 12 years ago

OK with me if he wants to resurrect the CSA. I can think of several I wouldn’t mind getting rid of.

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (23769) 12 years ago

So now he's a historian, too? What a joke. Everything is about money with this guy. According to him, we should have paid for the slaves' freedom instead of having a war. It would have been cheaper. He may have money in his pocket, but he's morally bankrupt.

[-] 1 points by wiseoldowl (86) 12 years ago

Well the point is it is rhetoric. Rhetoric is how politicians convince people to take certain actions or vote a particular way. A good politician will use it to his advantage and knows rhetoric most always does not represent the real motive of the politician.

So we see Paul justify being against the Civil Rights Act. He wants states to be able to bring back Jim Crowe laws.

At one moment he says that he is FOR State rights but he is NOT CONSISTENT. He is not what Paulbots often claim he is, which is CONSISTENT and HONEST, because at the next moment he is the guy who introduced and heavely pushed the SACTITY OF LIFE ACT which makes abortion a federal crime of murder at the Federal Level regardless of what local laws States pass.

Anyway, what price could the government buy the slaves for? Can the slaves be bought back by the plantation owners? Would plantation owners willingly sell slaves? What is it worth to them? Is it okay to buy and sell a human being? Should that be an acceptable concept? Should prisoners be put on the market as slaves in a new industry? I don't know. These Paulbots think they have it all figured out!

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (23769) 12 years ago

Right. Rhetoric is the name of the game. And, sadly, many Americans fall for it.

Paul is the ultimate hypocrite. He is "libertarian" and yet a Congressman on the payroll of the big bad government.

[-] 0 points by alangreenhorn (-1) 12 years ago

Paul is against the Civil Rights Act only as it pertains to PRIVATE property. He supports the Civil Rights Act in regards to public property. Schools, Libraries, Police Departments, Government organizations, ect.

You discredit yourself by even saying he wants to bring Jim Crow laws back, and only shows your ignorance and lack of knowledge, let alone the wisdom to use it.

Keep using talking points and see how much smarter you get.

You know we weren't the only nation that had slavery at that time, but we were the only nation to have a Civil War like we did. Why do you think that is? How do you think the other nations rid themselves of slavery? Is it possible that there was ANOTHER WAY other then having so much death via a Civil War? Yes it is possible.

Segregation was caused BECAUSE of government. It was government laws that created the problem.

It's amazing to me that some of you think that for some reason states are going to turn into evil tyrannical states if they're allowed to do as they see fit according to their citizenry. Yet the federal government, in your eyes, can do no wrong.

[-] 2 points by wiseoldowl (86) 12 years ago

I'm sorry, but he is against Civil Rights in the public sector as well. Please don't spread disinformation. That is not how you prove a point.

Ron Paul has said on many occasions that he wants to repeal the Federal Civil Rights Act. He has even stated that Jim Crow laws are alright because they are State laws. He had pushed for allowing Christian school prayers in public schools for instance. He said it was up to studetns whether they wanted to participate or not (it was their right not to participate) but it was the right of a State to declare itself Christian and that Christian prayer be allowed in schools.

This is not Libertarianism. Please!

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 12 years ago

Almost everything about him is a lie....................

It's fitting that he is of the "I am not a crook" party.

That was a lie too.




[-] -1 points by growupsoon (-1) 12 years ago

Why fight and argue over politics? Why don't you guys just grow the fuck up and do something about your unsustainable country. I'm tired of ignorant Americans not being able to take care of their own problems, yet have the god damn ego to assume they can fix other countries problems. You guys are so fucking backwards it makes me sick, ruining this planet for other countries. All your politics are jokes, now grow up and do something about it. If you pussies started a civil war/serious revolution, I guarantee neighbouring countries would join, probably even some countries from the international community. I'm tired of watching white and black sheep arguing over politics. JUST CHANGE YOUR SYSTEM. Holy shit.

[-] 1 points by epa1nter (4650) from Rutherford, NJ 12 years ago

Can't change a system if there is no consensus to change it. That's why talk precedes action. Can't triumph over objections if one is ignorant of those objections. That's also why talk precedes action.

[-] -1 points by alangreenhorn (-1) 12 years ago

“I will say, then, that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races—that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of making voters or jurors of Negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this, that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I, as much as any other man, am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race.” - Abraham Lincoln

We could all live together so much happier then we do now if only people took the time to do their own research instead of assuming you know what the hell you are talking about.

Show me ONE time, JUST ONE time Ron Paul has ever said anything directly out of HIS mouth or directly from HIS pen that even remotely compares to what Abraham Lincoln said.

You can't.

Ron Paul , for over thirty years, has been trying to help all of us keep our individual liberties. Not whites, not blacks or mexicans. But ALL of us. All of us as individuals.

Libertarians don't see groups. We don't see gays, we don't see blacks, we don't see whites. We see individuals.

You people love to guilt by association, but you don't seem to understand - when it comes to freedom. Freedom of speech and expression especially, all people are going to support you. Hate groups, love groups, whoever. We all love freedom. And just because a hater supports Ron Paul because Ron Paul supports Freedom doesn't mean Ron Paul supports their hate. What is so hard to comprehend about that? You have to be a real moron to not grasp that concept.

[-] 0 points by wiseoldowl (86) 12 years ago

Again rhetoric, this time from the Lincoln-Douglass debates. What politicians will say in an election year is nothing compared to what they actually do and the speeches they make when they are in office.I see clearly that many of you still don't understand the difference between political rhetoric and political objectives. This is what causes much of your confusion.

For one thing, you are not a Libertarian. The Libertarians and the Libertarian Party wants nothing to do with Ron Paul - please do your own research!

Now perhaps you still claim to be a Libertarian or you like to identify as a Libertarian for whatever reason and that's fine if it helps your self image. But the reality is, you are not one. And it is mainly because of your support of Ron Paul that I know that you are not a real Libertarian.

Ron Paul uses the language of Libertarianism to motivate his minions and to make his rhetoric sound different from what he really stands for, which is unfettered capitalistic exploitation of all our resources to the detriment of the poor and weak and the environment.

Real Libertarianism is more along the lines of Kropotkin, Van Inwagen, Frankfurt, de Cleyre, Bertoni, Hamon, and Goldman. If you read any of these writers I doubt very much you would call your self a supporter of Ron Paul and a Libertarian with the same breath.

Ron Paul was influenced by my least favorite of all Libertarians though. She was known as Ayn Rand. In some circles her writing is considered philosophy but for the life of me I don't know why.

[-] 1 points by kingscrossection (1203) 12 years ago

How old are you?