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Forum Post: More of those "just like us Muslims"

Posted 1 year ago on Sept. 30, 2012, 7:54 p.m. EST by CitizenofAmerika (-71)
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Muslims in Kenya today detonated a bomb in a pre school. They're still counting the bodies. A fucking pre school. Does this make you Muslim lovers happy?

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[-] 5 points by Neuwurldodr (744) 1 year ago

OMG! Does it matter whether they are Muslim, Christians, Jews, Germans, Africans, etc, etc....

Have you ever seen any of the above labels pasted on the foreheads or the body parts left of men, women and children after being annihilated all across the globe, on every continent, every land, every place you can imagine?

Ever watch a parade of dead bodies go by entrails exposed, or limbs shredded?

Ever had to identify the remains of bloody bodies from a mass shooting, or killing or whatever may be left to try to identify?

Do you think after death that race, religion, or nation of people they belonged to really mattered for them?

Ever seen children lined up on the ground after being gunned down, bodies torn asunder? Ever seen mothers clutching their dead babies of slaughter?

What the F*** is wrong with you people?

Don't you understand that the ramifications of what is going on in the world is demonstrating the sickness of all nations, all distortion of religions that are being done by men?

You like living in this dark Dante' Inferno rather than let go of the bullshyt and help save humanity?

You all are gutless hypocrites who prey upon by the fears of weaklings and refuse to look at your own reflections showing how much enjoyment you get out of it!

No wonder Mother Earth is rebelling against all morons!

[-] 0 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

Well said. We are numb.

[-] -3 points by CitizenofAmerika (-71) 1 year ago

Perhaps it isn't numbness. Perhaps it is weak minded garbage propaganda.

[-] 4 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

You've got the patent on that stuff.

Why is hate for others a part of your nature?

Who hurt you so badly that you are lashing out so destructively at all those around you, including your own countrymen and women?

[-] -1 points by CitizenofAmerika (-71) 1 year ago

Women? Hatred has nothing to do with it. But KUMBAYA bullshit is irrelevant. Just call them like I see them. Pretending that the world will be turned into utopia by drum circles and pretending that Islam has anything to do with peace is stupid and dishonest.

[-] 0 points by Neuwurldodr (744) 1 year ago

Why attack a whole religion for the acts of mankind?

Are not religious beliefs put in place by the guiders of man, for man, due to man's inherent ignorance of Divine Laws and Principles. Therefore, is it not left up to the Divine to be mankind's judge, jury and to carry out the sentence?

Why has man raised himself higher than the Divine and turned religions into his own personal device for avarice? So, it is better to condemn a whole religion and race of people for the acts of those who are defiling that religion for their own greed and inbred selfishness? If you say yes, then you too require help from a higher source..

[-] -2 points by CitizenofAmerika (-71) 1 year ago

The only real sickness is in the filthy Muslim nations. They are the only ones still doing all of this barbarism in the name of their degenerate god.

[-] 2 points by Neuwurldodr (744) 1 year ago

So, does that make you feel more important or is your islamaphobia all that can keep your itty biity dick hard??

Honestly, I won't even get into it with you and your CORPORATE RACIST RANTS.

Real men find ways to save nations, girlie men just faint after crying in their beer.

Now, I wonder. would that have anything to do with the fact that most of you pretending to be real men are lacking in testosterone levels or perhaps its because the estrogen is being overfed to all of you?

I am so glad I know there are real men, with real thoughts, ideals and the ability to move nations forward...without murder or hatred.....Whew!

[-] 1 points by MattHolck3 (34) 1 year ago

let's not forget all those bovine growth hormones for beef

[-] 0 points by Neuwurldodr (744) 1 year ago

I detest cow meat!

[-] 1 points by MattHolck3 (34) 1 year ago

doesn't digest well

'It is illegal to defame meat in the state of texas"

-king of the hill

[-] 0 points by Neuwurldodr (744) 1 year ago

LOL..

[-] 0 points by CitizenofAmerika (-71) 1 year ago

You are simply too far gone to bother with. Go be a human shield for those poor Muslims.

[-] 0 points by Neuwurldodr (744) 1 year ago

Why would I want to do that? I don't owe allegiance to those people, no more than you would be a shield for the Church of England or the Vatican.

Believe it or not......there are many of us who know that the human shield is already in place for "Muslims" here and abroad... It is mentalities such as yours that cannot fathom what is actually taking place in the world. For example: Did you know that here in America...... "The only requirement to be a Shriner is being a Freemason. However, the ritual and ceremonies of the Shrine are taken from the Muslim world. Shrine Temples are named after parts of the Muslim world, members wear Fezes, and the ritual calls upon elements for the Koran (just as regular Freemasonry uses the story of King Solomon’s temple from the Old Testament of the Bible).

You seem to be upset about something that you have no control over. My question is when are you going to go there and give up YOUR LIFE TO PROTECT AMERICA AND ITS CITIZENS??

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[-] 1 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 1 year ago

I guess occupying an entire country for the past 11 years to hunt down a few hundred Al Qaeda members doesn't count as barbarous?

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

They are in Libya and Syria now, and they're back on the payroll again.

[-] 1 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 1 year ago

US forces? Do you have a link?

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

The Mujahadeen. The list. Al Qaida.

That's who your former admin paid a lot of money to train and equip.

They are the "resistance" fighters that are the new mercenary mobile tactical units for the 1%ers.

"Do I have a link"?

Do I really need to explain why an Afghani armed unit is turning up in Libya and Syria?

Blackwater can only be contracted to go in after "civil war" starts.

[-] 1 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 1 year ago

The Taliban makes huge profits on the opium crop and can arm and deploy it's own soldiers. Without hard evidence of a U.S. connection it's just a rumor.

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

Frankenstein the CIA created

guardian.co.uk, Sunday 17 January 1999 05.42 GMT

When Clement Rodney Hampton-el, a hospital technician from Brooklyn, New Jersey, returned home from the war in Afghanistan in 1989, he told friends his only desire was to return. Though he had been wounded in the arm and leg by a Russian shell, he said he had failed. He had not achieved martyrdom in the name of Islam.

So he found a different theatre for his holy war and achieved a different sort of martyrdom. Three years ago, he was convicted of planning a series of massive explosions in Manhattan and sentenced to 35 years in prison.

Hampton-el was described by prosecutors as a skilled bomb-maker. It was hardly surprising. In Afghanistan he fought with the Hezb-i-Islami group of mujahideen, whose training and weaponry were mainly supplied by the CIA.

He was not alone. American officials estimate that, from 1985 to 1992, 12,500 foreigners were trained in bomb-making, sabotage and urban guerrilla warfare in Afghan camps the CIA helped to set up.

Since the fall of the Soviet puppet government in 1992, another 2,500 are believed to have passed through the camps. They are now run by an assortment of Islamic extremists, including Osama bin Laden, the world's most wanted terrorist.

Of course, Osama is gone, but the org lives on.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/1999/jan/17/yemen.islam

[-] 1 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 1 year ago

Sure, the U.S. supported the Mujahadeen against the Russians in the 80's, but it doesn't mean they are now. Reports of Al Qaeda in Syria and Libya is not surprising. They want to install Islamic governments throughout the region.

What would be the motive for the U.S to have the entire Middle East under Islamic rule?

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

Here's the "official" line;

"It remains unclear if any group or person exercised overall command and control of the attack, and if extremist group leaders directed their members to participate," Shawn Turner, spokesman for the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, said in a statement Friday.

"We do assess that some of those involved were linked to groups affiliated with, or sympathetic to Al-Qaeda."

President Barack Obama's administration has offered varied explanations as to who may have been behind the September 11 attack on the US diplomatic mission in the eastern city of Benghazi, drawing criticism from Republican opponents weeks before a US presidential election.

US Ambassador to Libya Christopher Stevens and three other Americans were killed in the assault.{end quote}

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/breaking-news/libya-attackers-linked-to-al-qaeda-us/story-fn3dxix6-1226484012074

And here's the UK sending the same group/s funding.

US-UK listed terror organization Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG) fighters and commanders are clearly amongst militants underwritten by latest UK funding.

In direct violation of both American and British anti-terrorism legislation, particularly provisions regarding providing material support for listed or proscribed terrorist organizations, the United Kingdom has just announced that it will provide armed militants that include listed terror organizations with a £5 million tranche of what it calls “non-lethal practical assistance.”

http://www.globalresearch.ca/british-government-sends-money-to-al-qaeda-rebels-on-the-un-state-department-list-of-terrorist-organizations/

[-] 1 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 1 year ago

Thanks for the links. According to Hillary Clinton we are on the side of the Syrian rebels along with Hamas and Al Qaeda. Unbelievable! Since Assad is a friend of Iran, any enemy of his is a friend of ours.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/clinton-al-qaeda-u-s-helping-syrian-rebels/

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

It just goes to show how gullible they think the public really is.

The ranting about Iran getting a bomb has been going on since the mid seventies, which is now forty years ago.

[-] 1 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 1 year ago

Here's an article from 1995 claiming Iran will have a bomb by 2000. You won't believe who wrote it.

http://www.nytimes.com/1995/01/05/world/iran-may-be-able-build-atomic-bomb-5-years-us-israeli-officials-fear.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm

Just because Iran is taking longer than expected does not mean it will never produce a nuclear weapon.

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

I would be quite content if Iran bought a dozen nukes off some nation like "pretend" ally Pakistan.

The nation has been so severely screwed over by both the UK and the US for fifty-plus years, it's surprising that they have kept the lid on the burners.

The US tends to cozy up to nations that have a few nukes.

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

Never heard of extraordinary rendition?

It's a nice way of saying torture.

It's the reason your gov is interested in so many other nations, but fast losing interest in yours.

[-] 0 points by Mowat (164) 1 year ago

@CitizenofJudasim

No one is more brutal the those who ignite world wars and cause millions to suffer like in WW1 & WW2.

Sell your crap somewhere else.

[-] -2 points by alva (-442) 1 year ago

go to www.thereligionofpeace.com/ plenty to read.

[-] 2 points by bensdad (8977) 1 year ago

why not post the details? or a link?


Gunmen detonated a bomb Sunday near an Islamic boarding school in northern Nigeria and later exchanged gunfire with security forces, causing unknown casualties in the region's latest round of violence, officials said.

Sunday's attack hit Zaria, a city in the northern reaches of Kaduna state that is the nerve center of Shiite Muslims in a country where Muslims are predominantly Sunni. The blast struck the Gaskiya neighborhood in the city, causing some injuries, said Yushau Shuaib, a spokesman for Nigeria's National Emergency Management Agency.

Following the blast, soldiers and police flooded the area and opened fire on gunmen they suspected of planting the bomb, killing two people, Shuaib said. Local authorities took the injured to a nearby hospital. Police and military officials could not be immediately reached for comment.

The explosion could have potentially killed more people, but the gunmen ordered the children out of the school before triggering the bomb, according to some witnesses who spoke to officials. The blast destroyed several homes nearby as well.

The Nigerian military had surrounded the blast site hours before as part of an operation to track down members of the radical Islamist sect known as Boko Haram, a witness told The Associated Press. Soldiers forced those living around the area to flee during the operation, the witness said. The witness spoke on condition of anonymity out of fear of facing reprisals from the government for speaking to a foreign journalist.

It is not clear what led up to the bomb detonation as soldiers had been around the area for hours.

No group immediately claimed responsibility for the blast, though Boko Haram has carried out bombings and shootings throughout northern Nigeria. The sect, whose name means "Western education is sacrilege" in the Hausa language of Nigeria's north, has been blamed for killing more than 680 people this year alone, according to an AP count. The group wants the federal government to release its imprisoned members and implement strict Shariah law across Nigeria, which is largely divided into a Christian south and a Muslim north.

Military officials recently claimed to have killed members of Boko Haram's senior leadership, including the group's spokesman who uses the nom de guerre Abul Qaqa. The sect, which typically speaks to journalists through telephone conference calls at times of its choosing, could not be immediately reached for comment Sunday.

The group has recently changed some of its tactics and attacked more than 30 mobile phone towers throughout northern Nigeria, disrupting communications in a nation reliant on cellular phones.

Boko Haram has attacked mosques and killed Muslims in the past. The Zaria boarding school near Sunday's bombing is run by Awwal Adam Albani, who is a critic of Boko Haram and a follower of the ultraconservative sect of Islam known as Salafi.

[-] -2 points by CitizenofAmerika (-71) 1 year ago

So you are one of the happy ones...

[-] 3 points by bensdad (8977) 1 year ago

??????????????
I am not Muslim or "happy"
I do seek the truth rather than propaganda

[-] 1 points by MattHolck3 (34) 1 year ago

How many times can romney say muslim world ?

[-] 1 points by frovikleka (2563) from Island Heights, NJ 1 year ago

It's morons like you in the world that are the real problem.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (13195) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

Didn't Timothy McVeigh do the same thing?

[-] 1 points by Neuwurldodr (744) 1 year ago

Hello!!

[-] -1 points by CitizenofAmerika (-71) 1 year ago

Not in the name of religion he didn't.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (13195) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

do you really think it matters why he did it? It met widespread condemnation - a perfectly natural and logical response. The underlying motivation is irrelevant.

[-] -1 points by CitizenofAmerika (-71) 1 year ago

So when Muslims deliberately slaughter children of another religion in the name of their god they have irrelevant motives?

[-] 0 points by ZenDog (13195) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

to the outrage experienced or expressed by American citizens, yes.

You're kinda s.l.o.w., aren't ya.

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

How many Christian nations were involved in the illegal "Iraqi Freedom" bombing campaign? More than ten?

How many Iraqi civilians were killed? 100,000? Nobody bothered to keep count.

We do know that three million civilians were rendered homeless, and had to leave the country, not that I would have stayed knowing that tonnes of depeleted uranium were dropped there.

[-] -2 points by CitizenofAmerika (-71) 1 year ago

100,000? Nope. And those so called Christian nations didn't do it in the name of their religion.

[-] 2 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 1 year ago

You could say that the name of the religion in which this was done is the "Illuminati", though that would seem outrageous to many of the conspiracy denialists here.

It shouldn't be too much of a surprise though that the elite have their own secret society of an occult nature. I had been a member of a secret society for 25 years, so I know they exist and have their own agendas.

The secret society responsible for the bombing of Iraq has the objective of pitting the religions against each other in holy wars for the purposes of fun and profit. The mutual attacks between Muslims and westerners is a sign of their success.

[-] 1 points by CitizenofAmerika (-71) 1 year ago

I sense the foul odor of LaRouche..

[-] 1 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 1 year ago

Nice dodge.

[-] 0 points by CitizenofAmerika (-71) 1 year ago

But I'm right, aren't I?

[-] 1 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 1 year ago

No, Larouche never mentions the "Illuminati". He does speak of the same class of people as oligarchs or synarchists.

Do you really doubt the elite have secret societies? Skull and Bones is right out there in your face, and that's just the tip of the iceberg.

[-] 0 points by CitizenofAmerika (-71) 1 year ago

Yes. They have secret societies. Proving that they control everything is something else.

[-] 1 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 1 year ago

I don't think they control everything, though there is much that they do control, and they are always trying to extend their control.

Did you ever here JFK's speech on secret societies? Here it is on Youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E58u3_8oHsY

He made this speech for a good reason.

[-] 0 points by CitizenofAmerika (-71) 1 year ago

Interesting..

[-] 1 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 1 year ago

Yes, sometimes when people start studying secret societies, they develop a fascination with it. Personally, I believe our society has quite a huge covert establishment.

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

From Wikipedia

Iraq Family Health Survey>151,000 violent deaths >March 2003 to June 2006

Lancet survey 601,027 violent deaths out of 654,965 excess deaths March 2003 to June 2006

Opinion Research Business survey >1,033,000 deaths as a result of the conflict>March 2003 to August 2007

Associated Press >110,600 deaths>March 2003 to April 2009

Iraq Body Count project >105,052–114,731 civilian deaths as a result of the conflict. Over 162,000 civilian and combatant deaths[1][2] March 2003 to January 2012

WikiLeaks. Classified Iraq war logs[1][3][4][5] 109,032 deaths including 66,081 civilian deaths.[6][7]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War

And there's no shortage of speeches from the former admin saying that god told him to "help" the Eyerackies.

[-] -2 points by CitizenofAmerika (-71) 1 year ago

Yes. Wikipedia the ultimate truth...

[-] 2 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

All of those figures are from organisations separate to wikipedia.

It's a compilation of factual evidence from several orgs.

The links are in blue, if you'd care to check the sources.

[-] -3 points by CitizenofAmerika (-71) 1 year ago

I know. And 100,000 civilians didn't die. It's propaganda.

[-] 3 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

Who would benefit from lying?

It was propaganda that lied all those nations into the invasion.

What you need to be asking is, why is your gov lying about wanting to invade other nations?

Why are your soldiers committing suicide in higher numbers every year?

Why are you CitizenofAmerika, not concerned with the lives of those in another nation, unless it's to demonise them for their actions?

[-] -1 points by CitizenofAmerika (-71) 1 year ago

I am concerned for those other nations. And I despise my government for lying about fucking everything. But, may I suggest you stop worrying about our troops. They are none of your business.

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

Our countries are allies.

That makes it my business.

[-] -1 points by yobstreet (-575) 1 year ago

Essentially what you're saying is that to qualify as a religious attack, it has to actually involve a church right? Or maybe a Jewish establishment? And how many of those have there been this year? A hundred, perhaps?

Ask a Jehovah Witness about his or her beliefs and they will openly tell you that ALL others are corrupt sinners who are destined to an eternity in hell - they are highly discriminatory - but they aren't murdering anyone because they are a "religion of peace."

[-] 2 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

Don't create a scenario for me, then expect me to defend it.

The main perpetrators of death on this whole planet are the US military industrial complex. These murderers don't recognise race, religion, creed, nor gender.

The products they manufacture, and distribute to many nations, are solely designed to kill people. Your lawmakers are actively supporting the MIC, and many of them are profitting greatly from the sales of weapons and ammunition, often to both sides of any conflict. Death is what they are selling.

Save your platitudes about religion for the Jehovah's Witness.

[-] -1 points by yobstreet (-575) 1 year ago

Do you have any idea how many people have been intentionally starved to death in their own nations over the past two years?

We are not the "main" perpetrators of death... we are the main defenders - since WWII we have been charged with the defense of the entire western world; if you know of a way to do that without an American presence, then step up. If not then you grab a 16 and move to the frontline with the rest of America because you're no better than they are, and your opinion is of no more value.

These aren't my lawmakers; I hate all lawmakers - in my view they are entirely unnecessary.

[-] 3 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

Lies that you believe.

Corporations own America. You just live there.

You do know that the military, and the military industrial complex, are two completely separate entities?

The corporations are calling the shots, and the military are sweeping up the mess.

As for being defenders, there hasn't been a single defensive move on the part of America's 1%ers since Pearl harbour.

It's all been for money.

[-] 1 points by MattHolck3 (34) 1 year ago

the military is suported by the military industrial complex

[-] 0 points by yobstreet (-575) 1 year ago

Yes, I do know that America's politicians are owned by big business and special interests. And I do know that the military and the defense industries are entirely different entities. And I do know that many of our military affairs have been entirely unnecessary, costly to the citizenry, and highly profitable to some of our special interests.

Now I want you to learn: go grab a 16 - it's time for you to learn the value of your opinion.

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

What would owning and holding an M16 do for me?

I've done my military training. I've also done several expeditions of survival training in some of the harshest environments on earth. I'm off to Siberia next northern winter to tough it out there.

Again, what would I want to carry a heavy weapon like that for?

[-] 0 points by yobstreet (-575) 1 year ago

An MGI, a Kel Tec, whatever you prefer... I don't care.

[-] 2 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

Fists and feet then.

Keep your toys, boy.

[-] -1 points by CitizenofAmerika (-71) 1 year ago

Okay. So we can establish that you are an enemy of this nation. Fair enough. Perhaps this isn't the place for you. If you are in fact an enemy then can we assume you are a friend of our other enemies?

[-] 1 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 1 year ago

Why are U.S. soldiers allowing opium fields to grow under their noses? The Taliban finance this crop and with the profits buy the weapons that kill our soldiers. Does this make any sense?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj-b3pB6M7s

The Taliban cut opium production in Afghanistan by 90% in mid 2001. By late 2001 the U.S. invaded. By 2007, opium production increased 20 times the pre invasion level. Afghanistan now produces 90% of the worlds opium. All under the watch of U.S. troops.

http://www.economist.com/node/16432922

[-] 1 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 1 year ago

Whose numbers would you trust?

[-] -1 points by yobstreet (-575) 1 year ago

Have you noticed how distorted and twisted a lot of these wiki articles have gotten lately? I'm thinking I should start writing my own rather than turn to them for my quick reference grabs.