Forum Post: Moderating Policies
Posted 13 years ago on Oct. 30, 2011, 10:51 a.m. EST by agnosticnixie
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from Laval, QC
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The following will not be tolerated:
- Safer Space. Sexist, racist, homophobic, transphobic, ableist, etc. content is subject to moderation. We understand that many such behaviors are unfortunately common in society (like calling things "gay" or "retarded") so bans will be reserved for the worst/repeat offenders.
- No Platform. Conspiracy theories, will be removed immediately and the spammer will receive a swift global network ban. Fascist propaganda, will be treated with the similar actions. In that we are very specific about what fascism is: the word has a meaning.
- Stay On target. Off topic posts, low content posts, worthless posts, bumping, etc, will be moderated and removed. Repeat posting of the same off topic posts and spamming of links that have nothing to do with the subject at hand (case in point the Dylan bullshit) will be banned outright. Similarly posters who constantly post off-topic nonsense are straddling the line very close to a ban.
- We do not support an election campaign for 2012. At all. We have removed election material for Obama, Paul, Warren, Paul, Cain, Paul, Perry, Paul, the green party, Paul, Nader, Paul, and did I mention Paul? The spamming by the Ron Lawl 2012 fan club was getting out of hand. We will continue to remove such material and any call for the Paul 2012 campaign will, at this point, be considered spamming. End of. We're tired of hearing about it. Main street debates are also largely off topic.
- Red baiting will be moderated, as this is not 1952 and we are able to debate ideas without insulting anyone even slightly to the left as though they were Stalin reborn. Similarly, people on the right are not necessarily nazis.
- Trolling will be squashed whenever possible/reported/found out.
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- The continuous spamming of lies from various sources (like the non story about turning away the homeless, which was, as mentioned, a lie, or the mythical 500,000$, which a) doesn't exist, as our donate page can attest, and b) the 300,000$ account is being used constantly to pay for food, equipment, etc. (already on top of helping other occupations with more difficulty fundraising) will fall under spamming.
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If you want to question a ban, also email abuse, we're open to discussion and at least one ban did get reverted; what you don't do is make a slew of sockpuppets. That's the best way for future bans to be immediate and without second thoughts.
There is lag between posting and viewing comments. Don't assume that because you don't see your comments immediately they're being removed. For one it makes you look like a complete ass when the comment finally shows up, especially if you posted 3-4 copies of it.
The points you see and the upvote/downvote thing is tied to the like/dislike buttons. If you hit like on someone's comments, it's +1, if you hit dislike, it's -1. Also rules apply to news comments.
Due to software limitations forum posts are limited to about 5,000 characters; that's about 1-2 pages of text. If your posts really need more, you can finish the post in the comments (which can actually take about twice that amount).
This point is about projecting a positive image to the media: they are in the business of selling news, the currency is sensationalism, sexuality, and controversy.
That means outrageous "looks" and behavior will get the spotlight by the media lenses. "Crazyness," in turn, will tend to alienate middle of the road and those to the right, as a consequence, they will shut off or dismiss the message with the messenger.
The advice: managing the media means a "regular" appearance will have a better chance of getting people to listen, and if the message is cogent, that will improve the chances of getting people to change to your point of view.
So, ask yourself this if you disagree: Are you promoting yourself and your commitment, or are you promoting the movement by anything you say, do, or how you look?
Ok, so now we have an idea of what OWS is against, but what is OWS for?
All depends on who you talk to....
I take it that OWS is against the following:
a) Conspiracy theories b) Campaigns for individual politicians c) sexism, racism, ableism, sexual orientationism, fascism, and red-baiting d) Trolling and flamewars e) Lying
I base this on the rules stated above. Would you agree?
This is for the forum, not for Occupy itself. Occupy's main tenets & rules include anti-corruption, the proletariat side of the class war (which is less against wealth but the hostage-holding of wealth/means for labor), nonviolence, fidelity, the consensusus model to replace designated leadership, etc. and the specific ideas supported are peace, justice, liberty, equality, and pursuit of happiness. This is also taken from my own worldview/perspective. Others my have similar-but-different views.
Read about it: ABOUT & NEWS
ok, cool.
You all need be aware that the rabbit hole goes deeper than you know. It is the elite, the illuminati so to speak, that rule the world and who have ALL the money. These are bloodlines who own the Federal Reserve Bank. The same bank USA and other nations borrow from. There is nothing "FEDERAL" about it. It is privately owned by the royals of the world. The royals lend USA and other nations money. We pay the loans back with interest....tax money DEDUCTED FROM OUR PAYCHECKS. We are in debt forever to these persons. Any president who tries to disolve ties to the Federal Reserve suddenly disappears (JFK). Who do you think really pulls the strings on our Bamma puppet? These folks are out of your league. OWS is a joke to them. Want to really see action? Start a campaign to convince USA citizens to stop paying taxes. If we all don't pay taxes, say just for one year, that will start the cage rattling.
I've been thinking the same thing about financing the gov't. It seems clear that there are absolute limits set by the powers that be to what they will permit a president (or a journalist) to do. Within those limits, certain "changes" are permitted, as long as they don't interfere with profits and wars. A tax strike of monumental proportions is the only thing that might work -- and that's probably when the drones and threats come to America. All you have to do to cut the withholding of income tax is to claim a dozen dependents or so.
Sorry, that story needed more Bigfoot, or maybe a HAARP tie-in..
BTW, Good luck not paying your taxes.
The IRS says the joke is on you.
Here is a list of some of the common tactics or "rules" deployed by the 1% and their minions: They are all about promoting self interest at all costs and by any means. They have the effect of moving the form of government in the USA towards a plutocracy. You can spot these tactics at play, usually in combination, in just about any action taken by these kinds of people.
Rule #20: Hide (pairs well with Rule #10),
Rule #19: Manipulate (all the prime #s),
Rule #18: Wage War,
Rule #17: Dupe,
Rule #16: Destroy,
Rule #15: Deny,
Rule #14: Kill /Threaten,
Rule #13: Spy,
Rule #12: Wheedle & Deedle,
Rule #11: Chisel,
Rule #10: Control,
Rule #9: Whine,
Rule #8: Hate,
Rule #7: Cheat,
Rule #6: Steal,
Rule #5: Divide,
Rule #4: Buy,
Rule #3: Lie,
Rule #2: Trick,
Rule #1: Distract.
For examples see posts made here:
https://www.facebook.com/PlutocratAgenda
Dump Citizens United. https://www.facebook.com/WhatVermontersSayInWilliston?ref=hl
Please re-post to all occupy pages. Might this not be the next step for us? Marty Good morning, Good Day and Good Evening my Friends. While you were asleep, Freedom and Democracy was stolen, stripped naked and hanged in Uganda! Why do we have United Nations, Human Rights Charter, Global Developments Funds ...etc If people like Ugandans never get Helped or Rescued from Dictators? Do we really have a World Community that cares for people like us in this World? What is happening in Uganda is very dehumanising and should not be tolerated in the World today! It breaks my heart to know, World Bank, IMF, Donor World Communities actually Finance Museveni to Torture, Beat, Terrorise & Kill our People in Uganda. So Help us God!!!!!!
Merriam Webster Online Dictionary provides a Definition of CONSPIRACY THEORY: a theory that explains an event or set of circumstances as the result of a secret plot by usually powerful conspirators.
The obvious problem is that how would anyone posting here know anything that fully explains how the result of a secret plot can be understood? The conspiracy theory is an exercise in seeing how opaque the common sense view of reality is. Our country has been ruined by incredibly bad decisions.
The censorship on conspiracy theories eviscerates the discussions in this forum. Except for ambitious suicide bombers and anarchists how can grand larcenies by the corporations and states be addressed in terms other than as rare bizarre unfortunate serendipitous strings of coincidences that appear to benefit a tiny minority at the expense of nearly everyone else?
Very little can happen anywhere that really makes a difference without a conspiracy. By Jove, Wall Street, our system of government, and all political and social movements were given the breath of life by a conspiracy. $2.3 trillion missing from the Pentagon, 9-11, Afghanistan War, Iraq War, $700 billion bailout, ad infinitum.
Wikipedia - The term "conspiracy theory" is used to indicate a narrative genre that includes a broad selection of (not necessarily related) arguments for the existence of grand conspiracies. The term is frequently used by scholars and in popular culture to identify secret military, banking, or political actions aimed at "stealing" power, money, or freedom, from "the people". Conspiracy theories are based on the notion that complex plots are put into motion by powerful hidden forces. Less illustrious uses refer to folklore and urban legend and a variety of explanatory narratives which are constructed with methodological flaws or biases.
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Checking for mods? Funny.
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How can you have a 'system malfunction' in one topic thread in Forum and not another?
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King James Bible Isaiah 24:19&20 "Earth" translates to economies or financial markets. "Reel to and fro" is ticker tape action. "Removed like a cottage" means the economies will fall and not rise again as the Fed tapers QE purchases of MBS's. Zechariah 14:12 Not nuclear war. Consumers away from the sectors of clothing, travel, and restaurants. Zechariah 14:15 Merchandise transportation methods. Get ready for the Global World Market/Government where minimium wage is the same world-wide and at birth everyone is given a Social Security Number and a portfolio to eliminate classes.
The question really is "What should OWS be for?" I suggest it should be for the people directly voting for the laws under which they live. Representatives obviously don't represent us. Technology enables us to vote directly. Therefore we should vote directly. Liv in an actual democracy.
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Read between the lines! OWS is platform for free speech, an incubator for new ideas and thinking, a launch pad for action.
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What does System malfunction mean?
Usually it means someone deleted a post while you were responding to it, but I did find a thread recently where you couldn't respond to any postings, yet you could enter a new posting at the top of the thread.
That sounds like a system glitch.
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Please tell the Media that debt is slavery, & renting is slavery so it's illegal, no ifs, ands, or buts. We need to re-distribute wealth worldwide to (a) quickly end world poverty & save starving people, & (b) teach people worldwide that all people own all things so food etc is free, (c) & everyone must work part-time (10-20 hrs a week) building only 50-100-story concrete/steel fireproof/soundproof PERFECT Tower cities (each with all things:live/work/play) connected to mag-lev Trains to save the earth, & eliminate weapons manufacturers, military, car/truck/bus manufacturers, banks, prisons, advertisements, open all empty buildings & hotels to the homeless free, elim. tobacco, schools/colleges (free computer learning worldwide)(science & medicine primarily), & everything harmful. Elim. all crime shows & news, books, etc.
hands off the arts buddy. take a deep breath.
put your straight jacket back on
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The "clean Coal" people never seem to tell us what they will do with the ASH. ASH is not CLEAN.!!! If we sue enough coal over the years without finding a way to use the ASH, we will be buried in it.
Couldn't get this to upload on "call to action". scripting conundrums? Help plz.
A suggestion for changing the consciousness of the capitalist directive that animals have no consciousness and are fodder for private wealth and consumption by any methods.
Background: Just as capitalism teaches people to compete not connect, the 'tradition' of animal relationships in the US is deeply effected by lobbies that are based on cruel practices and generate suffering and abuse. Green activists are the subject of legal harassment and imprisoned with special punitive distinction as 'terrorists' mandating longer sentences in solitary confinement and prohibitions for visits and contact with family and friends. For these reasons I suggest adding #6 below. (or something like it ) Thanks for your attention to this suggestion.
6.We call for the removal of the stranglehold of animal enterprise corporations on the national exploitation of animals, especially in our national and state forests and parks. (a) We call for an end to privatization of profits from national land through the extraction of minerals, tar sands, and gas extraction by methods that toxify the land, watersheds and aquifers for all living beings. (b) We call for an end to federal and state supported permits for use of traps, snares, and and poisoning methods. These methods are indiscriminate, cruel and produce severe suffering. Corporations profiting from pelts, sale of trapping supplies, and poisons have created a strong lobby to protect their interests.
(c) We protest the production farms and harvest methods which generate cruelty and sickness in domestic livestock, as well as, the unlabeled chemicals and hormones which negatively effect the consumers of these products.
(d) We protest the stranglehold of the BigKill corporations which have used their wealth to enact The Animal Enterprise Terrorist Act (AETA) persecuting whistleblowers and peaceful protesters with incarceration with special punishments as 'terrorists'.
To these goals we support: The repeal of the The Taylor Grazing Act, The repeal of The Animal Enterprise Terrorist Act (AETA, 2006) The re-listing the wolf to the Endangered Species Act. A ban on trapping, snaring, and poisoning of animals in the US, in coalition with 88 international countries which define these practices as indiscriminate animal abuse.
Do you think the wealthy humans that donated to political campaigns will be willing to donate to help rebuild the areas around THEIR Wall Street playgound and THEIR...uh I mean OUR goverment headquarters?
Hello Everyone,
For those of you who don't know me, I'm Brad Newsham, the main organizer of these events. This one is going to be great!
I'm just writing to confirm a few details with you: We're asking you to arrive in the vicinity of Ocean Beach by 10:45 A.M., and to pick your spot in the lettering NO LATER than 11:15 A.M. This will allow you half an hour to find parking (if you are driving), use a bathroom, reach the site, and select your spot. Volunteers will be handing out flyers with more specific, updated, day-of-event instructions. Please take a flyer, read it, and follow any instructions from volunteers.
The message will be centered approximately 300 yards north of the intersection of Fulton and the Great Highway, between the Cliff House and the Beach Chalet restaurant, but closer to the Cliff House. A concrete sea wall runs along the beach, with short, numbered stairways leading down to the sand. The event will run between Stairways #5 and #9 ((approximately -- and subject to last minute beach conditions). There is a public bathroom in the Beach Chalet lobby, and you'll find porta-potties at the top of Stairway #7, near the heart of the lettering.
We need at least 800 people to do a credible image, and with 773 people already registered, and with more emails going out from more groups, with at least one radio spot today, and with the event now flying around facebook -- well, I'm confident of 1,000, and that'll be perfect.
Please invite your friends -- and please ask them to REGISTER AT www.HumanBannerSF.com.
You can also share this event on facebook with this link, but registering at www.HumanBannerSF.com is still crucial -- it really helps us organizers to know how many people to expect.
Again, THANK YOU! Can't wait to see you there.
All the best,
Brad Newsham & The Other 98%
Thanks Brad! Can't wait to see it! Solidarity From Canada!
Do you really enforce red-baiting? I'm sick of the trolls calling everything from Obama to public schools to social security "socialist".
Well stick a feather in your hat and call it macaroni ...you have to learn to love the label.
Besides, we may be Socialist, but ...and doesn't this just bear out in most everything they take a stand on... that would make them the antisocial-ists.
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corporate personhood site:
http://corporationsarenotpeople.webuda.com
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Check out the soon to be released new documentary on Occupy in the San Francisco Bay Area. You can see the trailer at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvcPrS5kTjM
Please share this. More info on Facebook at "Occupy The Bay"
Your rule on election campaign for 2012 is going to have me giggling the rest of the day. Well said.
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if we the people could do one thing to make the biggest change--it would be to tear down the media and i mean tear all media down to the ground-and rebuild a no profit media to serve the truth-to hold politicians accountable for their actions and lies and crimes--it would hold everyone accountable---a media that would well inform the people with the truth----------------------( a well informed people will make the biggest change )---------------------------all media has willfully failed to well inform the people with the truth---willfully suppressed the truth----willfully misled the people--willfully tried to divide the people--confuse the people--willfully tried to brain wash the people to think a certain way-----------------media owners--board of directors-top level ceos--have worked and conspired with politicians and the evil people they have appointed in government positions--to brain wash the people to think a certain way--to suppress the truth--to stop information getting to the people--to divide the people--to control the people--to confuse the people--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------if we the people could do one thing that would make the biggest difference---it would be to tear down the media and rebuild a no profit media to serve the truth at all cost--and hold everyone accountable---before its to late---we can no longer trust our politicians to serve for the greater good for all--they serve the few------we can no longer trust the media for the truth-------we can no longer trust the media---------work to make this one change and the world will change---politicians will change------------the world will change for the good !!
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Krugman was hardly left "stuttering and near speechless." Quite the contrary. Krugman spoke, then Schwartz. Krugman than answered. They disagreed very briefly about whether some of Schwatz's comments were personal criticisms of Krugman, Krugman saying he thought they were, Schwartz saying they were directed towards Krugman's book. There were two other men on stage. One spoke only in Spanish and seemed be the moderator. The other man spoke some, at one point saying that he agreed with Krugman on an essential point. There was some interchange between Krugman and this man (pleasant). This was followed by questions from the audience....All of which were directed to Krugman, with only 1 question directed to both men. All questioners were respectful, not confrontational. They were selecting the person who they wanted to answer their question, and this was Krugman. Schwartz was essentially left out. Towards the end, he interjected a response in Spanish after Krugman finished answering a question, and, as stated, one and only one questioner asked that both men respond, which they did in English. Then it ended with applause.
In Poland we say "It will heal before the wedding ....:) " its like everything will be fine ... haw sarcastic according to junior wedding set on august 4 th ....critical condition, than coma in approximately 2 week and finally loosing memory especially where the money gone ... 2 years lawsuit with discontinuance of legal proceedings and old McDonalds will stay happy on his farm in Iowa pretending loosing his memory and insane ... son will be innocent shifted the responsibility onto his insane father...but one day that bad one someone will come to the ranch with big gun one who was f.. by them and angry and revenge and it will be end of the story ....so Mr. W Sr. you can assume subside but real banshee will meet you soon anyway ...like karma :)
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I understand that you don't want to inspire riots or theothanatology. youde be going against everything we were ever taught lol but whatever! the point is there has to be a middle ground. this fight against Hasatan has been going on since Socrates and if you guys want to see something happen in your lifetime -- face it!--- your going to have to turn up the heat!!!!
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OWS should be like UBUNTU in South africa. Google tellinger ubuntu.
The movement must make campaign finance reform its sole focus, making its goals tangible and clear. Until the system of legalized malfeasance is eliminated, the buying of public officials by the elite will continue, and there will never be meaningful reform. Read my full piece on campaign finance reform and the Occupy movement at: http://mydogsaretiredofhearingthis.blogspot.com/2013/09/campaign-finance-reform-occupy-with-goal.html
Business is Business - WTF - International musicians apparently no longer welcome in Canada -
The Canadian government has now made it nearly impossible for foreign musicians to play in Canada, requiring a fee of $275 for each musician, for each venue that they play at. This will spell the end of many careers in music for visiting/travelling musicians that want to spread their inspiration and make an artistic difference and put food on the table. WTF is going on Prime MInister Harper?
So with the fat-cat politicos in mind, here’s a musical response and something a little different for the Occupy Movement to consider/embrace.
The idea of excess seems to be the theme that sickens most people that support the Occupy Movement. With that in mind, I’d like to introduce readers to “Business is Business” my "Yacht Rock” Steely-Dan-esque parody song, part of my new album that is supporting Suicide Prevention. The song is actually very light-hearted in contrast to my objective of bringing awareness to this serious issue, but it is true that the actions of corporations may be having an affect on American’s as the rate of suicide is growing and especially increasing for middle-aged men and women. This is a problem around the world.
So what is "Yacht Rock”? "In the musical sense, yacht rock refers to the highly polished brand of soft rock that emanated from Southern California between 1976 and 1984. The term is meant to suggest the kind of smooth, mellow music that early yuppies likely enjoyed while sipping champagne and snorting cocaine on their yachts. Significant "yacht rockers" include Michael McDonald, Kenny Loggins, Christopher Cross, and Toto.”
In hearing an excellent news story on the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation that suggested that CEO’s often exhibit sociopathic characteristics, I was inspired to write a song combining this notion with my experience with two such individuals that I personally did separate business with. Unrelated to each other and years apart, they each used the term “Business is Business” to justify they’re immoral and unethical, let alone illegal actions. The song was born.
You’ll hear great saxophone work and solo form New Orleans based Aaron Fletcher who has played with very notable musicians like Stevie Wonder. Aaron, like most musicians, is struggling to make his music career flourish. This is a huge problem. I’m sure he’s indebted to the Canadian government who have now made it near impossible for foreign musicians to play in Canada. Hear is a link to “Business is Business”. http://lpgroove.ca/businessisbusiness.cfm
If you purchase on September 10th (World Suicide Prevention Day) 100% of all downloads and royalties (for radio/TV play) will go to support the cause of Mental Health and Suicide Prevention. Is Business is Business a worthy song for the Occupy cause? You be the judge. What is worthy to consider is that it will be supporting important work and people dedicated to making the world healthier and safer. Thank you. Larry Pegg #WorldSuicidePreventionDay #BusinessIsBusiness #MH #WSPD @LPGRooves
You should post that with the lyrics.
I have been inspired. This is a great website.
What about the lady who started an uproar about B. of A.'s wanting to charge customers (or is that consumers?) $ 5.-/mo. for a checking account.
She started a networking exercise, I believe it was on Facebook, opposing the fee and within two weeks or so B. of A. backed down!
To me that's REAL power!! She should have been nominated for a Nobel Social Savior Award.
I actually have an idea about proposing a candidate but it would only work on social media. And the Presidency is only the first step, so Putin returns the phone calls. The Lamestream Media would never pick it up. They only offer up those of their wall street, corporate choosing. The old time Pirates would elect their Captain, he received a double share of the take and that's it. If he wasn't any good at finding the Booty he was voted out, pronto style. I like that model.
What was it Jim Morrison said "They've got the guns but we've got the numbers" I have ideas. The Deems will push Hillary to continue the Clinton, Obama, Big Pharma, Dynasty. The Repubs don't know what to do. They certainly bombed with Romney. Either way it's the same two-headed Drag-on.
My plan actually involves a money back guarantee to all involved. Ask for donations and give a receipt. All of the money goes into an account and is not touched. It is simply a symbol that we are serious. Once a respectable amount of a few hundred $ million or so is acquired we take a vote about what to do with it. If at any time a contributor wants a refund up to that point, they may have it.
They want to push us into a controlled, enslaved by the banksters 'New World Order'. How about a 'True World Order'?
Like I said I've got ideas that would certainly make the Big Boys take notice. Nothing illegal. Simply a challenge and an invitation disseminated via social networking. We can make them an offer they can't ignore. The fast food worker walk-out was a good idea. We can build on that for a start.
Listen to the Quicksilver Messenger Service (a 60's San Francisco rock band) song "What about Me"
"The trouble about not getting involved in Politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors", ancient Greek philosophy.
I know you have heard the song "We won't get fooled again". Let's have that stamped on the new currency. Along with "In God we Trust"
We still have plenty of time before we play the Presidential voting game again. I've got ideas, some tempting incentive for those still not sure what to do, yet recognize, we as humans are blowing it, doing Easter Island version 2.0 gone planetary.
I've got some ideas, and some incentive to get the thing rolling. My ideas also require Balls. Look what happened to Lincoln, Lennon, Dr. King, J.F.K.
Let's have the Leno and Letterman people calling us.
"You can't deny something that's right in front of your face"
"All that's required for tyranny to take hold is for honest, decent men to do nothing"
I often wondered why they always open a certain free speech T.V. program by quoting Obama saying "You can't change Washington from the inside, you can only change it from the outside" That could go down as his most famous pearl of true wisdom. Was he trying to give us a hint?
I would offer myself as a candidate although I really wouldn't want the job. I would feel in the position of Will Smith in "Enemy of the State".
It could certainly be shown that I have a checkered past, followed the teachings of Dr. Leary and Carl Sagan, and really don't care what you may think of me. We would have to find a safe house for my family if I were to be the next occupier of the White House. That would be my Achilles Heel.
If a guy like Obama can get elected President, It's not a stretch to think a free thinking Eagle Scout that has been around a while and doesn't care about the money or the fame or any of the other B.S. could probably do a better job. I really would be doing it for the 99%, not the war pigs in power. Co-operation is so much more efficient and fulfilling than maintaining an adversarial existence.
I would be honored if asked to serve, could show them a thing or two and find a higher calling to serve (or would it be to preserve) mankind. We need a different kind of Political leader. A Hugh Hefner type. Laid back, takes meetings wearing a robe, and commands respect because hes already shown hes got something good going on. Anybody but a Politician. The job is much too important to be entrusted to one of them.
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大家好！我来自中国大陆，对于1%的占据人类社会99%财富这样的社会现状，我觉得“社会化企业（Social business）”也许可以解决这样的社会问题，人生而平等，对于社会资源我们也应具有这样平等的待遇，资本经济发展到现今，依靠资金和技术产生新的领域和市场，并以此成为行业巨头占据相当的社会资源，这样的经济对于我们普通人来说是不公正的，这样的经济模式是需要做以限制的。我们每人拿出一美元，我们也具有一定的资本能力，通过一些合理的途径来运作，建立一个为我们所有人服务的company，形成一个为我们每个普通人服务的经济体制not Capital！！ ——X_y
What ta said
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Call for world wide action. Unoccupy the Grid
log off, unplg do it for love
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3uLhs9kXo8
BuBye
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I’m going to take the liberty of assuming that the opposition to conspiracy theories and discussing of 2012 candidates is based on excessive promotion and spamming. The reason for this is that this is a movement that is opposed to Wall Street which uses secrecy to cover up and enormous amount of crimes starting with simple things like watering down shampoo without letting the customers know that the quality of their merchandise is gradually being reduced up to things that cost peoples lives like safety hazards that include the cover up of safety violations at the BP spill and many other things; these are justifiable conspiracy theories or proven facts. However I have seen enough of the stereotypical impression of conspiracy to know that there are many of these that do more to confuse the issues and to turn this into a bicker board which requires justifiable monitoring.
The same goes for support of candidates; a total lack of it leaves the door wide open for those that have the support of the corporate media; but allowing Astroturf campaigning for candidates that pretend to be independent could be part of a paid campaign.
I am preparing my first string which won’t support a candidate but call for more coverage of grass roots candidates in general and the “expand the debate.” I’ll glance back here before I post it to see if there is a response but I intend to do it in a manner which I consider within the rules as I have read and interpreted them.
你看到的和的upvote / downvote的事情是联系在一起的喜欢/不喜欢“按钮。如果你打别人的意见，这是+1，如果你打不顺眼，这是-1。同样的规则适用于新闻评论。
Yea what he said!
Sigh....
thank you for what you are doing. thank you for your bravery! The occupy movement is an inspiration to me and gives me hope for a better america
Where can I get information about the upcoming RNC protests?
There was nothing wrong with my post . why was it removed?
someone has your password ?
I read the "rules for posting" I tried to post a link that I thought was appropriate but now that I read the rules (dumb me I should have read them first ) I guess it was not. So I will try again with greater caution.
let them ban me
"can't do the little things I love so dear. It's all the little things I fear"
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Check out the soon to be released new documentary on Occupy in the San Francisco Bay Area. You can see the trailer at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvcPrS5kTjM
Please share this. More info on Facebook at "Occupy The Bay"
Tin Hat or Thinking Cap?
I've been so upset I started my own website so people could vent their anger to or at another person via live webcam. The site is only a couple of weeks old and you can tell it has a glitch or two and is perhaps lacking in some respects. I realized that it was addressing the symptoms and not the disease. I thought OWS was yesterdays news about some very real issues that had simply faded away. I never thought to check if the movement had it's own website.
Now that I've been around this website a bit and worked with a designer and developed my own website on the cheap, I can see that it's very well done indeed. Maybe too well done! Since we see many leadership models suggested on this site, everything from certain people, to a rotating roster, to a high command yet no actual leader, what's really going on?
A ship with no one at the helm sails in circles. It's my belief that we must choose one of our own and get his/her self in the Oval Office. I know it's not easy and still a somewhat lame place to be yet how do we change the game as simple spectators. I believe an identifiable leader must emerge to push this thing through. Perhaps someone from the entertainment or sports industries, a person who is instantly and undeniably non-wall street and believably for the people. A thoughtful selection process on our part no doubt.
Also how do we know that this site actually is presented and supported by the Occupy Wall Street movement? Like I said, I thought the movement had mostly fizzled away already.
If I was one of the unholy overlords of the corporate/government cartel I might consider putting up a site like this to confuse, monitor, and track what the other side is doing. I just might vote in the next Presidential election if a declared OWS candidate was to emerge.
don't you tire of being a dickhead?
Why Aren’t the Occupy Wall Street Kids Angry About the Obamas Getting A $35 Million Beachfront Mansion in Hawaii? Posted on September 4, 2012 by Kevin DuJan // Best of Hillbuzz, Featured Content
[ Why doesn't Occupy Wall Street have a problem with Barack and Michelle Obama moving into this palatial estate next year...a home purchase that is being made for the Obamas by the wealthiest banking families in the country? Isn't OWS supposed to hate bankers and all they represent, or something? ]
Part 1 of this investigative report — HERE
Part 2 — HERE
Part 3 — HERE
A good question that every Tea Party group and conservative should be asking the Occupy Wall Street crowd at the DNC this week: how do you feel about Barack Obama and his wife Michelle leaving the White House in January and moving to a $35 million estate on the beach in Kailua, Hawaii that Obama’s largest donors and socialite friends are fundraising right now to purchase for him in thanks for whatever favors he’ll be doing them between now and his last day in office?
Isn’t this kind of the thing that Occupy Wall Street is against, or something?
I have not yet gotten my hands on the list of names that Penny Pritzker’s working to raise the cash for the Obama’s post-presidential home, but the financial troubles the Democrats have had with their Charlotte Convention are in large part because all the money that would have normally gone to something like this, or to the Obama re-election campaign, is instead being directed to the “Prevent the Obamas’ Homelessness in 2013 Fund” or to the Obama Presidential Library (being built in Honolulu) capital campaign; these two are more or less the same project at this point, because the funds for the new Obama Hawaiian estate are needed immediately while the Library can wait a few years for construction. No doubt Pritzker is channeling any donations she collects into a trust that can be used for either the mansion’s purchase or the Presidential Library when it gets under way later in 2013.
Seems kind of hypocritical for the OWS kids to scream about Mitt Romney living in a mansion (costing a fraction of the $35 million being spent on the Obama’s future estate) that he bought with money he actually earned…when the Obamas will soon be living in an estate that billionaire banker Penny Pritzker (who also inherited most of her money from the Hyatt Hotels family empire) helps buy for them. No home Romney has ever owned was worth $35 million or situated in the most exclusive and elite neighborhood of probably the most expensive place to live in the country.
It’s quite a sham to see the OWS crowd saying a bad word about Republicans at all if they don’t simultaneously scream to the rooftops over the sweetheart deal the Obamas are getting — with quid pro quo being that, before he leaves office, Obama just has to see to it that these wealthy benefactors get just about anything they want while he’s still sitting behind the Resolute Desk: pardons, pork sent to projects that benefit these people wherever they live, highways built near land they own, promises to not prosecute things that they’ve done that Eric Holder will happily lose the files on, etc.
Essentially, the last days of the Obama presidency are now available in a fire sale for anyone who contributes enough to the purchase of “Michelle’s Dream Home” via Penny Pritzker and the other mega-rich Chicagoans who are behind all this.
Somebody should really call Occupy Wall Street out for not giving Democrats an earful over the Obamas’ post-presidential home and its $35 million price tag.
Any ideas on how we can make that happen?
How can we ensure that the OWS kids hear about the Obamas’ forthcoming luxury estate purchase?
This could make the Charlotte Convention all kinds of interesting to ask the Occupiers their opinion on Democrats’ behavior regarding plans for the Obama post-presidency.
Wink.
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If you go to the hillbuzz site you will see this is purely an anti-Obama pile of BS - owned by koch? or ruppert? or fox?
as if you need to even pay attention to someone who calls us the "OWS kids"
Where do they even find this crap?
Links at theblaze?
should these be called forum guild lines ?