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Forum Post: Mississippi Profit Prison Gets Sued!!

Posted 5 years ago on June 7, 2013, 10:51 p.m. EST by shoozTroll (17632)
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Here's an example of what happens to mentally ill, when private prisons are used as mental heath care facilities.

At least in this case, they are being sued. How many more are in similar circumstances in other private prisons?

"The fires sometimes got the guards' attention, but not always in the way the inmates were hoping: At least one inmate, the suit claims, was maced by a corrections officer through his feeding slot. EMCF is a private, for-profit prison that houses seriously mentally ill patients, and the ACLU's lawsuit reads like a catalog of horrors.

Alongside claims of rapes, beatings, and inadequate medical care, you'll read about vermin, prisoners defecating in styrofoam cups because nobody fixed their toilets, a dead man walking (so to speak), and a "ping-pong" toilet where feces mysteriously appears after toilets in nearby cells are flushed."




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[-] 2 points by bensdad (8977) 5 years ago

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[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 5 years ago

MotherJones just kicked out an article http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/06/states-reject-mental-health-funding-obamacare

Right now, the going thing is that if someone is to receive any type of treatment at all it will be while they are living at home. All under the guise of rights. What this means is that you have a group of people with all of the cash and none of the liability or a modicum of responsibility. They can walk away and say, oh, they are not compliant.

ARC is steadily destroying ANY place for these people to go. ANY. They don't have to take responsibility. In fact, they can interject services that redirect the cash flow. So, its going to get worse until people realize that we do not have to go backwards but sure as hell can't stay in this place. The money is being spent via court costs, arrests, injuries or deaths to others. Whether this group of nimrods gets it or not---there are those people whose caregivers are in their sixties or seventies and above and they are not able to physically be able to control these folks. In fact, you have parents whose child outgrows them before they are 18 and will become violent. But, that's ok too. It's all about redirecting the cash flow.

If you have that many people in prison and homeless that are mentally ill---your plan sucks. But, its not really about the mentally ill. It's about redirecting the cash flow.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 5 years ago

The aim, it would appear, is to make them easy cash cows for the prison profiteers. I hope this ACLU case in Mississippi gets a favorable judgement. It could change the way they treat them.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 5 years ago

Well, it's one of those two pronged kind of things. Sure, prison profiteers make cash. However, it doesn't necessarily address how they wind up in jail to begin with. Not all jails are for profit, however, their medical and mental health services may very well be outsourced.

There has to be another direction or facility for them to go to. I hope ACLU slams them.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 5 years ago

Funding for mental health care has been dropping since the 80s.

It's a long road back to sanity.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 5 years ago

Ya, deinsitutionalization. The former director of CPS in Florida made a statement several years ago. He said that people think the available services are there to screen those that need help in. They are there to screen those people out. Therefore it's going to be necessary to examine the services delivered. The not for profit but really for profit industries that want all the cash but none of the responsibilities have not been able to demonstrate that they are capable.

People need to realize, and especially Mississippi, that they will pay via tax dollars for all lawsuits through this. So, if the faux privatization prisons are not capable or willing to assume accountability then it needs to be reverted back to the state where they have a better shot at accountability.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 5 years ago

"needs to be reverted back to the state where they have a better shot at accountability."

This goes completely against their "philosophy".

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 5 years ago

Well, this is something that people have to get. They obviously lose the case for accountability as it stands now. It is not run more efficiently and is not more cost effective. This is where the money is going and not being handled. You will pay for the law suits anyway.

At this point, the only way to push past the propaganda is to show all of those that are in favor of faux privatization under the pretense of saving money is the financial bottom line. If necessary the cost of arrest, jail, courts, prison, medication or the lack thereof, lawsuits, release, repeat.

So, either revert or go back and repair the section of the law that says that the for profit prisons will pay.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 5 years ago

It seems it would revert back to the ACLU's lawsuit and what it may, or may not expose.

The shame is that this place didn't make the front page of every major news source in the Nation.

They were too busy with the latest kerfuffle.

Just as they are today.

In the last month, it appears that ALEC has been very busy.


[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 5 years ago

Besides controlling curriculum and instruction to produce the next generation of illiterate Republican supporters, ALEC and the GOP intends on destroying teachers’ unions and enriching corporate-run private schools at the public’s expense. It is but another example of the fascist coup d’état of corporate Republicans who are unable to impose their will on the public through democratic process such as public discourse and voting because thus far, America’s educational system has worked well enough to keep the masses informed to reject privatization efforts, and it is why ALEC, corporations, and Republican fascists are secretly transforming public schools, and America, into a private enterprise producing what Republicans need most to win elections; stupid, ignorant, and superstitious people to vote against their own interests.

There it is.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 5 years ago

I thought you'd like that one.

It also shows the complicity of the MSM by keeping all those kerfuffles in the headlines, while ignoring what's happening in the States......

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 5 years ago

Our local NBC is seemingly very pro private schools. Catch the weather and get out.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 5 years ago

From what I know of him, I don't much care for Mr. Emanuel.

Have you investigated any possible ties he may have to ALEC, or has he buried them deeply?

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 5 years ago

I am not a fan of his. Not at all. The privatization of education is actually something that is a both party thang. This would be the issue that for the "all the same/all the same" group would jump up and down on because it sure is. I haven't looked but I'm sure there are corporate ties somewhere.

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 5 years ago

The fact that they don't is pretty telling, wouldn't you say?

Indeed, it's a subject they have completely ignored.

As if they are complicit.

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 5 years ago

For the most part they have. So have the hard core Dems. This is where it gets local as well.

Edited: I take that back. There is one difference. The push for allowing anyone to teach without a license or a degree is from the right. It is the complete and utter destruction of a profession.

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 5 years ago

They have to, have to, address the mentally ill prison drop off. They need to nail EMCF to the extent that they either treat these inmates as patients or get the hell out of the industry.

This makes me furious. The majority of these inmates are incapable of defending themselves. This is why profit over people does not work.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 5 years ago

What makes me furious is the lack of comment on this tragic exposure of the torture of US citizens.

The least among us.

For profit!!!!!!

I will guarantee, this is NOT an isolated incident.

[-] 3 points by GirlFriday (17435) 5 years ago

No. That's why California is having massive changes and wants the mental health care of inmate back under state control.

Prisons and jails have long been the dumping grounds for those that are mentally ill. There are those that say the law says that even if the correct environment was provided the law would prevent them from being admitted to a proper facility. They fail to realize that it just takes a court order. Those people think that it is going to cost more money because they are morons that don't pay attention to the money that is being spent now.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 5 years ago

I guess it's a problem, because I'm the one who posted it, and there is NO mention of it on Alex Jones.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 5 years ago

Nah, these are a bunch of tea bag/libertopian whine bags. Although, a lot of 'em would have crawled over here and decided to take a stand if they read it at Alex Jones.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 5 years ago

That's worth a bump.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 5 years ago

I saw that. The guy has gone far over the ledge.

Of course on his web site, he claims he "stormed" the BBC.

His brain has no inlet for outside information.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 5 years ago

I think that it does have an inlet but he refuses it because it might detract from his power and cash. It would undermine his pretense of authority. They are getting pretty desperate.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 5 years ago

Did you note that they also called him "libe(R)tarian leaning"?

Anyway......Enough with that jerk. I see enough of his crap posted in here.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 5 years ago

Yep. Just moving right along with good old Adam.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33496) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 years ago

Mississippi Profit Prison Gets Sued!!

Mississippi - go figure - Hey? Problem is this for profit prison illness wants to go nationwide. Hope the suit goes well. Reminds one of the early days of prison reform. We don't want to return to those days.

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 5 years ago

Notice if you would, the lack of interest.

Even among those that were apparently all for it over the last gun nutter invasion.

Their support for proper mental health care was bullshit.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33496) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 years ago

U won't see the shills chiming in on this until they see it is not going away quietly on it's own - and then they will begin their BS attacks again.

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 5 years ago

They're back to their usual issue free, shallow bullshit already.

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (33496) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 years ago

Yep - much spewage saying nothing (at best) or in effort to twist information into a message of their misinformation. Typical.

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 5 years ago

I wonder if any of them even bother to read this??

If they are so worried about the "bridge" to the "right" wing.

They should be all over this kind of thing, but I haven't seen 'a' one of them

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33496) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 years ago

Yep considering the worst profit prison abuse is in their bible belt territory = Red states. One would think they would bring up stuff like this. But they (the shills) are not even right-wingers they are corp(se)oRATists.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 5 years ago

I believe you're correct.

I brought NO politicization to the table.

Just the facts maam.

and they've ignored it.

I should put (R)epelican't in the title.

They would have been all over it.

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (33496) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 years ago

Sure - but - why risk antagonizing even one conservative that might recognize that their party has been co-opted by the corp(se)oRATions - although - really - any conservative who is aware that their party has been co-opted should not be outraged at that designation - as the party is not theirs anymore.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 5 years ago

I was hoping to avoid all that. at least in this instance.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33496) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 years ago

Not to worry IMO any conservative that has decided that OWS/Occupy is correct and actually want to support the movements - will likely not identify themselves as a republican - as they will have left the party. Many have left the party and continue to do so - but as OWS/Occupy would be considered strongly progressive - it would be the rare conservative that would agree with OWS/Occupy - they would be more likely to join a group of their own - no not the TP as they are the Koch party - as everyone should be well aware by now.

But I gotta fall over now so catch-ya later.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 5 years ago


Just a test to see if they notice it now.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33496) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 years ago

Nope looks like they are still trying to ignore.

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 5 years ago

I'd give it to the guy that claims to be from Texas, but I'm sure he'll just shrug and say, it's not Texas, and Texas NEVER throws anybody in prison that doesn't deserve it..

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33496) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 years ago

And then lament the south's loss of the civil war.