Forum Post: Miley Cyrus and Third Eye Blind release great OWS songs!
Posted 12 years ago on Nov. 29, 2011, 9:13 a.m. EST by 99time
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MILEY CYRUS was formerly known as Hannah Montana, and made famous by Disney. She is the daughter of country star Billy Ray Cyrus. Recently, Miley Cyrus has been a major pop star with songs The Climb and Party In The USA. In 2010, Miley Cyrus recorded a song called Liberty Walk. She has now released a video to this song which provides publicity for and support of OWS! The video includes cuts from the protests. We can now see what Miley was thinking when she recorded this song about 18 months ago. Here is the video: http://youtu.be/Ovs0fpFgeqw Give it thumbs up and write a supportive comment! Miley Cyrus is one of the biggest music stars. She is in the one percent. By boldly supporting OWS, she has nothing to gain from the establishment. She can only increase her own self-respect, and that is priceless. Thank you Miley Cyrus! Support her effort by purchasing the song here: http://www.amazon.com/Liberty-Walk/dp/B003REBB90
Update: above link has been changed to the official link. Miley says "This is Dedicated to the thousands of people who are standing up for what they believe in. Miley Cyrus"
THIRD EYE BLIND has just released a song called If There Ever Was A Time. This is a direct action call to join OWS. Listen here: http://youtu.be/0gf45vXByCg
The reason why there is a 1% and a 99% is because we have a system that pays a 16-year-old girl who sings $25 million which leaves little income for everyone else.
Her income (and the incomes of others in her position of bargaining power) is the reason why 97% of all workers get paid a below-average income and why 50% of all wage earners get paid less than $26k and why there is poverty and financial struggle.
It is not her fault. She didn't create the system. She is just doing her best within it. It would be great if she were waking up to this fact since she has access to an enormous audience.
But I doubt it. For her, it is more likely just another way to exploit the system and make yet another buck. The OWS is just another demographic to sell to.
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We dont have a "system" that pays her $25M...we have people who are free to buy her product and they freely choose to do so....what is wrong with that?
We do have an economic system. It is called capitalism. And it is because we have the unfair system of capitalism that she is able to take 1,000 times more than half the workforce despite the fact that she doesn't work 1,000 times more.
Like Al Capone said, America is a thug economy. You take all that you can and to hell with everyone else.
There is nothing wrong with people freely buying her product. But they don't buy her products because they want her to earn $25 million and because they want income to be concentrated in the hands of the few.
It is the system that allows her to take the $25 million. And there is something terribly, terribly, terribly wrong with that. Because it leaves 97% of all workers earning a below average income, 50% of all wage earners making less than $26k, 1 in every 3 people near or below poverty, 16% underemployed, 52 million without health insurance, and 55% of all workers wasting their lives doing pointless jobs that can be automated with existing technology, despite the fact that we have the resources and technology to produce a near unlimited amount of anything.
We don't need to have a capitalist system where society is ruled by small handful of private, privileged, wealthy few who managed to take the most.
Wow....You really see things much differently than I do. I am not saying that I am right or that you are wrong. I just believe that we all have an equal right to do the same thing she is doing and that is the most fair system. The talents, dedication, and ingenuity of those individuals who excel and rise above others in terms of demand for their product or service deserve to reap the rewards. Those who do not bring a contribution to society that society values deserve very little. Peace.
"Wow....You really see things much differently than I do."
That's because we were all brought up to think the way you do. We are all brainwashed by our culture. The top 1% of income earners own all the tv stations, radio stations, magazines, newspapers, politicians, and businesses that everyone has to work at. So they control the culture and they are naturally going to make sure the system that they do so well in is positioned as nothing but the best and as the only way.
You probably think it is wrong that a Muslim woman has to cover her face but a man does not. But you probably think it is just fine for an American woman to have to cover her chest but a man does not.
If you grew up Muslim, and I said it is not honorable to kill your wife for cheating on you, you probably would say you see things much differently than I do.
If you grew up 200 years ago in the south and I said slavery is wrong, you probably would say you see things much differently than I do.
If I also said woman should be able to vote just like men do, you probably would say you see things much differently than I do.
If I also said men should be able to vote even if they didn't own land, you probably would say you see things much differently than I do.
If you grew up in Europe 400 years ago and I said it is not right or fair for private families, who call themselves Royalty, to own the means of law making and make laws that best serve their private interests, you probably would say you see things much differently than I do.
If you grew up in America today and I said it is not right or fair for private families, who call themselves Entrepreneurs, to own the means of production and produce in a way that best serves their private interests, you probably would say you see things much differently than I do.
People should be treated equally and society should work equally well for everyone. Anything less is wrong and not fair. To get the masses to tolerate our unfair world and even actively defend it takes a lifetime of brainwashing that is institutionalized and begins at birth.
Your views are formed by our culture. Our culture is shaped by the ones in power. And the ones in power are going to make sure our culture perpetuates their continued reign.
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"we all have an equal right to do the same thing she is doing"
You do not have a right to get paid $25 million per year for singing. You only have a very, very, very small chance to do it. And your chance is a lot smaller than hers since you probably do not have a hit country singer as a father.
Slaves also had a small chance of overthrowing their masters. Afghan girls also have a small chance of overthrowing the government that bans them from school. Having a small chance at something doesn't justify anything.
And the economic restraints on your freedom are just as real as the restraints of legalized slavery on blacks or the restraints of the Taliban banning of education on women.
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"The talents, dedication, and ingenuity of those individuals who excel and rise above others in terms of demand for their product or service deserve to reap the rewards."
Getting paid for the popularity of a product that a machine produces is just as fair or relevant as getting paid for how many earthquakes happen on your album release day.
You can't predict the market. Whether something turns out to be popular or not is mere luck. Miley doesn't work any harder making an album that 100,000 people buy than she does making an album that 100,000,000 people buy. So it doesn't give her a right to take 1000 times more compensation for her work than everyone else.
The only fair work compensation system is to compensate people for how much work they do. It isn't fair to compensate people based on luck or genetics or family heritage.
If you work 40 hours, you should get paid twice the amount as someone who works 20 hours. And if you work a difficult job or put in a greater effort, then you should get paid more than the others who do not. And how much more you get paid should be limited to whatever is necessary to get people to do difficult work or give their maximum effort.
If nobody buys the products your work creates, you should stop being paid until your work produces something people buy.
That is the only fair system. It is a system that treats people equally and works equally well for everyone. If you work and work hard, you are guaranteed the same pay as everyone else who is working just as hard as you.
And if we paid people that way in America in 2010, everyone would make $115k to $460k. Everyone would be wealthy, not just Miley and a few lucky others:
http://occupywallst.org/forum/solution-raise-the-minimum-wage-to-110000-per-year/
You live in a fairy tale world, I live in the real world. I see capitalism working fine, you see it as unfair to those who can't or won't compete. What isn't working fine is the fact that Govt leaders(many but not all) are corrupt and accepting bribes from the capitalists(many but not all) who seek to bribe them - that I assume we see the same. Capitalism isnt perfect - no system is - but it is by far the best, most fair system on earth in my opinion. The best, indeed. Peace!
"I see capitalism working fine"
A system where 97% of all workers make a below average income and that keeps 1 out of every 3 people near or below poverty even though the economy produces $135,000 in income per year per worker is not a system that is working fine.
The people in Jonestown thought everything was working just fine too. You are drinking the Kool Aid.
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"Capitalism isnt perfect - no system is - but it is by far the best, most fair system on earth"
They said the same thing about slavery.
There is nothing good or fair about a thug economy where you use your position of economic power to take everything you can and to hell with everyone else.
Unless you are in the top 3% of income earners, advocating for our current system (or saying the problem is government and not the inequality from private ownership of the means of production) is advocating against your best self interest. You would be nothing more than one of their gullible, useful idiots.
http://youtu.be/JroogX7zBek
"The only fair work compensation system is to compensate people for how much work they do."
So you think Brain Surgeons working 40hr/week should make the same as a 40hr/week McDonalds worker? That says all I need to know about your argument for the fairy tale perfect world that you envision. But, hey, it's your fairy tale - write it the way you like it.
And in the very next paragraph, I explain what that sentence means:
"If you work 40 hours, you should get paid twice the amount as someone who works 20 hours. And if you work a difficult job or put in a greater effort, then you should get paid more than the others who do not. And how much more you get paid should be limited to whatever is necessary to get people to do difficult work or give their maximum effort."
Clearly brain surgery is more difficult than working at McDonalds, so it is fair to pay them more.
Isn't that what we have? Pretty basic supply and demand. Sounds like you believe in capitalism but hate to admit it.
Are you able to exercise any critical thinking or are you just going to blindly defend this system no matter how ridiculous you sound?
Getting paid based on supply and demand is not the same as getting paid based on the amount of work you do.
The reason why Miley gets paid $25 million per year and surgeons get paid $225k is not because Miley works more hours or does more difficult work.
You think singing is 100 times more difficult than surgery?
That says all I need to know about your argument for the fairy tale world that you think we live in. But, hey, it's your fairy tale - write it the way you like it.
Way to steal my line. LOL. Capitalism will be alive long after your grandchildren's great great great grandchilren's great grandchildren are dead. Get used to it. Compete or starve. Peace out!
i don't find what this lady is doing to be opportunistic. I mean some would even say she is taking a risk. Lets say that corporate power really wants to stomp out descent. She is putting her credibility in the eyes of Corprotidom on the line. Her actions are below par with Michelle Moore, he being an innovator, she being an imitator. But are not all pop stars? lol
Up till now, Miley has done no wrong. She was just a kid doing what it took to get ahead, make a living and prosper. I support her and love her work. However. She is now an adult. Miley is able and capable of using her brain for herself. Miley has a choice, the freedom and the extra cash to look into her own situation.
It is here that I would like to ask Miley Cyrus to use her millions to investigate the factories that make her products. Miley, I ask you, who makes your products? How much do they make an hour? Do they get vacation, sick days, retirement funds and insurance? How many hours a day do they work. How old are they?
All questions, that you did not need to care about as a child. You are no longer a child. It is time to use your brain. If you support OWS, then go to each factory that makes your products and ask those people about their lives. If they are being treated fairly and make a good wage, then you do support the OWS.
If you find sweatshop activity, greedy circumstances from bosses and corrupt business practices...you have a choice. Make changes, or be the 1% and we will bring you down with the rest of them.
Check this video out. It has awesome OCCUPY footage from all over the country to a song called "Lets Roll" by a band I've never heard of. Lyrics to the chorus are "Lets roll never give them control, they've got their money but we've got our soul" http://youtu.be/EFNcEXFS7wU
THIS IS A BLATANT LIE! Miley Cryus never released a video to her song LIBERTY WALK "which provides publicity for and support of OWS! The video includes cuts from the protests." It's simply a remix made by a OWS supporter. It does absolutely no good whatsoever to promote such fabrications as it provides ammunition to those who oppose OWS
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Miley Cyrus gets the party started! All we need is some Gaga and OWS will be bumping!
If you want some real songs though, not some washed up 1% artist that doesn't make anything other than frat party songs, check out Flogging Molly's new album. Being Irish, they know real work, and being shunned by the rich. Check out their album, "Speed of Darkness."
Lol gotta love when the 1% profit from exploiting the 99%
I'm with you brotha exploitation of the situation... She has no creative control, 100% marketing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGaRtqrlGy8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JSBhI_0at0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLUX0y4EptA&ob=av3e
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9VQye6P8k0&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1llNYAlYrc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohRbJJohv6Y
jeez, some people just can't stand a good news story. i appreciate the artists who contribute to ows in this way. every revolution has needed its artists!
I hate pop but from the sound of that song id say it's more likely about their goddess Columbia.