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Forum Post: Michael Moore is 1% So here is my demand on him.

Posted 12 years ago on Nov. 22, 2011, 5:57 p.m. EST by jazz (8)
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Hi every one,


According to the most recent Federal Reserve "Flow of Funds" report, total US household net worth is about $58.5T and according to the census.gov's US Population Clock as of 12:42 EST today, November 8th, 2011, that gets divided by 312,575,092 Americans. But wait! According to widely cited Nobel Laureate Joseph Stiglitz, 42% of that is controlled by the nation's top 1%! 42% of $58.5T is $24.57T divided by 1% of the population, or 3,125,751 Americans, and the average 1%er is worth $7,860,510.96. So the remaining 58% of the wealth is $33.93T and we divide that by the remaining 99% of the population, or specifically 309,449,341 Americans and we get an average net worth of us 99%ers of $109,646.38. I'm just pointing this out to set a target for rich liberals that want to take themselves all the way down to the AVERAGE of the 99%, you know, in solidarity. Now of course, that number is skewed by those at the top of the 99%, but so is that figure for the 1%. We know there are some folks out there with a lot more than the 1%er average of about $7.9M! The top tenth of a percenters! The true beneficiaries of corporatism!

Michael Moore, with a conservatively estimated net worth of $50m and Russell Simmons with a reported net worth of $340m are well above that average 1%er and fall squarely in that 0.1%. They are the VERY problem that the movement they claim to support is protesting, and yet while Fox News gets heckled out of OWS, these two are embraced, and embraced as representatives by the media. But I'm here to help them out. So Michael Moore, Russell Simmons, if either one of you actually decides to voluntarily join those of us in the 99%, I'll move into a tent at OWS and be the last person to leave when it's over. I will go on every march, attend every general assembly, and cover every appearance each of you make there for this YouTube channel.

All you have to do is donate enough of your net worth to charity (and I mean a real charity, actually delivering real aid or comfort of some kind) to put you squarely in the 99%, and I'll do it! You've both enjoyed seeing this become a global movement, so just be glad I'm only asking you to join 99% of AMERICANS, because if we used global numbers, you'd have to give away even more money. How much would it be worth it to you to have a former Republican Congressional candidate join the encampment while clearing your conscience at the same time? But I'll make it even easier for you! You don't have to come down to the average. Keep a million bucks. Keep two! That's probably closer to the cutoff to the top 1% anyway. WAIT! I'll make it EVEN EASIER! JUST COME DOWN TO THE LEVEL OF THE AVERAGE 1%ER! THAT'S RIGHT! You can keep $7,860,510.96 and I'll still do it!

But just for Russell Simmons and Michael Moore, I'll make it EVEN EASIER for you to take me up on this very serious offer. Take just 10% of your net worth, give me half, and give the occupy movement the other half, and I'll camp out for a whole year and cover EVERYTHING. Well, one year or until it's over, whichever comes first.

It's time to put up or shut up. You know what, I'll even extend the offer to anyone in the top tenth of a percent. If you want to donate just half of one tenth of your net worth to AVTM, don't worry, I'll camp out for a year and you don't have to give half of anything to the Occupation Movement. This offer most certainly applies to the ever hypocritical Warren Buffett as well, who should write a check to the IRS, or shut the hell up about raising taxes. If any one of you rich liberals decides to accept my challenge, I'll see you at Zuccotti Park, and then we can debate if this is really about the 99% versus the 1%, or those of you who want to use the force of government to impose their will on others, versus those of us who JUST WANT GOVERNMENT TO LEAVE US ALONE!

Peace, love and light.



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[-] 3 points by fcrooster1947 (3) 12 years ago

Thank you, Michael Moore for your proposal to Occupy NYC of "10 Things We Want." I'm so thrilled that you have always stood with the people and for social justice. Roland Madore, Fort Collins, CO.

[-] 0 points by jazz (8) 12 years ago

Why do we need tax? Tax is violence, it is enforced with violence. This world needs less violence not more. If Michael Moore truly believed in helping the poor he would voluntarily give 99% or even just 50% of his capital to charity.

We have to stop this culture of violence and coercion. Peaceful trade and charity is the only way forward.

[-] 1 points by laughinsky (1) from Belmont, CA 12 years ago

Hi Michael, Thank you for the suggestions you put together as the 10 points. They are all good. I would like to see some changes to the 50% worker votes on boards of corporations to be 52%, and that be the case for any company with more than 50 workers. Also, Magrit Kennedy, an economist has shown that 40% of the cost of everything we buy is interest. End all private banking, including the Fed.

Also, as the economist Magrit Kennedy has shown (hold your seat) 40% of everything we buy is the cost of interest. The US would do well to eliminate all private banking systems, yes including the Fed, and have all banking done by the people's banks -- go beyond the idea idea of a redevlopment bank.

[-] 1 points by AmericanMachinist (24) 12 years ago

bail outs on bad bets are not capitalism ! The biggest problem is everyone believe it is !

[-] 0 points by alouis (1511) from New York, NY 12 years ago

If capitalists buy congress and the presidency and the federal reserve and then get use and value from those purchases, that's exactly capitalism.

[-] 1 points by 99time (92) 12 years ago

Sure. And those who would like to end the proliferation of nuclear weapons should be the first to give them up, too. It's called unilateral disarmament. Give those who would take the most advantage even more advantage.

Michael Moore became famous and earned the big money specifically by pointing out the inequities of the system. I would suggest that you ask him to give up his funds along with all the other one-percenters, and not unilaterally.

Until then, Michael Moore can keep the bulk of his money and power as something of a counterbalance to those one-percenters who would like to shut down the US government so they can buy the people's assets at bargain prices. Many one-percenters would also enjoy the ability to regulate people directly in all endeavors.

[-] 2 points by jazz (8) 12 years ago

Thats a silly argument. You cant compare being rich to having nuclear weapons.! What the hell. I also think he should be able to keep his money from the tax man because I know he does better things with his money than the tax man does. Taxes go to bailing out big corporation, is the single payer to the war machine and is taken from people by force.

Michael Moore does far more for the people if he where not taxed 1 penny and was able to start businesses employing people at what ever price they wanted to be employed at. If he doesn't like starting a business then he could voluntarily give to charity without anyone holding a gun to his head like the tax man does (using the police) .

Less violence = good more tax = more violence = bad

[-] 2 points by 99time (92) 12 years ago

Let me spell this out for you. Everyone gives up a portion of their ridiculously high shares of the wealth -- not just the people who actually have a history of concerns for humanity. Or there will no humanity left in the system at all.

[-] 0 points by jazz (8) 12 years ago

Yeah no shit, I'm just using Michael Moore as an example because he seems ironic but my argument falls true for every one, 100%

[-] 1 points by Choicesmatter (93) 12 years ago

Mike Moore IS an inequality in the system. He could rectify that, but chooses not to.



[-] -1 points by Choicesmatter (93) 12 years ago

Mike Moore is a multi-millionaire pretender. He's a capitalist that's made himself wealthy pitching socialism. Only in America can you turn hating America and capitalism into a business.