Forum Post: Media Silence Campaign
Posted 13 years ago on Oct. 7, 2011, 8:39 p.m. EST by gumballrimpoche
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WE ARE BEING PIDGEONHOLED. The movement we have created is being spun and crafted into a "new Tea Party." THIS IS A TRAVESTY AND WILL ONLY RESULT IN THE END OF OUR EFFECTIVENESS.
Everyone, we are already too big to ignore. BUT we will ONLY CONTINUE TO GROW IF WE ALLOW THE POPULIST ANGER WE REPRESENT TO REMAIN UNFOCUSED. The beauty of this movement is how it touches a vein that cannot be defined by class or political leaning. While participating in the SF branch, I have talked to everyone from diehard survivalists to bugeyed Reptilian believers..and everything in-between. This is BEAUTIFUL to me, as it shows that our cause is, essentially, not political.
IT'S PERSONAL.
We are angry for a multitude of reasons... but WE ARE ANGRY TOGETHER. If we allow the movement to coalesce around any specific political terms, we will lose supporters who don't necessarily agree... because politics is and has always been a game, while THIS IS SRS BZNS.
Let the commentators scratch their heads, let the professional talking heads belch their lil hearts out, let the apologists whine about "class warfare," let Fox News harp on us, but DON'T give them any ammunition.. DON'T grant any interviews, DON'T allow any press conferences.. JUST KEEP GROWING.
Think about it.. what is stronger? A large mass of people who are tied together by a very real threat to their emotinal/financial well-being, or a mess of specialized cliques who argue amongst themselves? WHY ARE WE TRYING TO PARTICIPATE IN A DIALOG THAT IS SPONSORED BY THOSE THAT WISH TO SEE AN END TO OUR MOVEMENT?
..Think about it.
SILENCE IS STRENGTH.
WE ARE THE 99%
Bear in mind that the Right, the traditional, balanced budget conservatives, not the Neo-cons and the Left, the traditional innovating liberals are approaching the same problems with the same concern but from different perspectives.
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"I am sharing these observations, so you guys know what's going on and can prevent the media from succeeding in painting you as violent slacker hippies rebelling without a cause, or from having the movement be hijacked by a bunch of corporatists, seeking to twist the movement's original intentions. If you think this can't happen, it happened to the Independence Party and the Tea Party movement. Don't let it happen to your movement as well." Here's how they turned our movement into a bunch of pro-corporate Republican Party rebranding astroturf, and this is how I predict they are turning your movement into a bunch of pro-corporate Democratic party rebranding astroturf. I believe many of these things are already happening, so take note.
http://www.reddit.com/r/occupywallstreet/comments/kyjo2/an_open_letter_and_warning_from_a_former_tea/
uhm. no. if it stays unfocused its dead. it must come to lucid focus or its yesterdays news by next month.
to get serious requires a few things they don't have. like chat admins who aren't ego serving propaganda tools, a wiki, 1001 sub forums, an actual game plan, a straight up political platform... you know.. basic organizational things sane people do BEFORE protesting.. like figure out a diplomacy and logic centered metaprocess to give their chatadmins so that they don't really just drive out even more people than the trolls. Adminatrolla. trollaAdmin. Whats the difference to somebody whos got the truth facing a propaganda tool abusing admin powers to push their agenda? how can you prevent such a thing? Metaprocess. did i mention metaprocess? and science diplomacy science psychology science sociology and all those textbooks to read B4 protesting?
you can't have capitalism without a free(SLAVE) market. but you can have a free market without capitalism. And thats strangely the only way it CAN work.
Marketing 101 was fascinating. I admit thats a lot less than a bachelors but its sure more than enough to see whats really going on given the other things I know. Capitalism is not the problem since it does not exist. corporate oligarchy is the problem. capitalism has never been tried. I am a democracy guy. in order for real democracy to function a free market system is required. Thats not capitalism. thats a free market system. there is a subtle difference there which most people would miss. I will again repeat. Neither capitalism nor marxism nor communism nor socialism has ever existed. All of those governments were oligarchy pretending to be something as a con scam. Telling that simple truth gets one banned out of the Chat by either a capitalist or a socialist whos pissed you just said their pet ideology isn't real. It isn't. anybody who thinks that it is is accidentally playing for team corporate oligarchy as a tool. the ONLY system worth talking about is DEMOCRACY. how democracy HANDLES a FREE MARKET system is dynamic and interesting and NOT capitalism.
o. yes. no. yes. what? making change is not reliant on changing the money system one tenth as much as it is on changing the informational ecology. Going to a gold standard as an idea is a proof of ignorance, not a solution. Really the end game is we evolve out of money. To do that we evolve first new currencies and new economic strategies. this leads to economic singularity in about 50 years. If everyone is a millionaire how much you get depends on exactly the material valuation of that money. Which is to say that by the time money becomes obsolete everyone will live like the current millionaire. Tangible items to other tangible items? the real economy is about ideas, change the ideas and everything changes. the problem with the tangible economy is it does not change; its a static reality. you can't make a meaningful gold standard with only enough gold to represent on millionth of the economy. You can make a purely imaginal money system work; but it has to be subject to moral and ethical laws. This is about pinning down those moral and ethical laws and implementing them in new currencies; not trying to imagine a control freak impossible non solution because of the simplicity with which you go about thinking over the problem.
once again. there has never been a socialist or capitalist economy. in all instances such nations were oligarchies. using a mask and a con scam and telling their dupes and pwns that they were something other than oligarchy. the big hump to get over is that the USA oligarchy and the Soviet oligarchy are in on this lie against the rest of us TOGETHER. Neither of them was ever anything other than an oligarchy. both claimed some other system in order to have US fight over the ideals of THAT system while they secretly shafted us all playing a completely different game.
http://occupywallst.org/forum/stop-playing-the-devils-games/
Absolutely. Through their inane criticisms, the media are trying to shape us and, therefore, control us. Ignore them and give them no legitimacy. They have proven that they have no legitimacy. They don't deserve our attention. Say Nay to the Naysayers.
I Agree. but there are too many idiots out there. Someone Somewhere will want there 15 minutes of fame.
Yes, your right. The problem is people have egos and the ones with the biggest will eventually attempt to CO-OPT us and use us for THEIR own agenda. Obama is already trying to figure out how to do just that. Its ironic that he has so alienated his own base that now that they are rising they want NOTHING to do with him or the D party.
but I will still vote for him if the Republicans do not nominate Ron Paul. and i will do it for no other reason than to hear republicans racistly complain for four more years lol.
They will all try to co-opt us. We can't forget that.