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Forum Post: Martyr(s) for OWS.

Posted 2 years ago on Oct. 18, 2011, 7:03 p.m. EST by FawkesNews (1290)
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Non-violence will invariably be met with violence. It is the very nature of violence.

Jallianwala_Bagh. Gujranwala. It seems, even Gandhi had a few glitches. Good thing that his people were ready to die, for what they believed in. Are you?

I see/hear no contingency plan for such tragedy.

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[-] 1 points by sudoname (1001) from Berkeley, CA 2 years ago

I fear this will happen, that someone will die for OWS. The powers that be are not going to give up their power so easily. According to some versions of history, it was the powers that be that assassinated our presidents when they challenged the status quo.

[-] 1 points by FawkesNews (1290) 2 years ago

I fear worse.

I fear the organizers need a martyr(s) and are patient enough to wait it out. No one sends this many people into a frail and volatile situation without an agenda.

[-] 1 points by FawkesNews (1290) 2 years ago

I have no idea what is the catalyst you mention. Maybe fear.

Dying for a belief seems better than living without one.

[-] 0 points by justhefacts (1275) 2 years ago

What is the catalyst between non-violence and violence? What invariably causes this meeting?

Is it a "good thing" that people who are ready to die for something they believe in, are actually killed? Does their readiness somehow make their deaths "more" or "less" of something than those who are not ready?

[-] 1 points by FawkesNews (1290) 2 years ago

I have no idea what is the catalyst you mention. Maybe fear. Dying for a belief seems better than living without one.

[-] 0 points by justhefacts (1275) 2 years ago

If there is no catalyst that causes violence to be the end result of non-violence, then we might as well say that non-violence invariably leads to violence.

Why would fear cause violence towards something that has demonstrated itself to be non- violent? Do people who fear flowers invariably become violent when they meet flowers? Or grass? Or a pretty pair of socks? I would think that if someone is afraid of something, they would run from it, or avoid it.

[-] 1 points by FawkesNews (1290) 2 years ago

Marcella Sherwood and Reginald Dyer ought to clear up both a type of catalyst and provide a fine example of fear.

It was not the desire of Gandhi for a mob to kill. It was in the desire of the British to kill a mob.

The delicacy of these situations lends a keen perception to both sides. Thanks for the discourse,

[-] 1 points by FawkesNews (1290) 2 years ago

Thanks for the link.

Clearly there are legitimate requests. Implementing and enforcing the realities of them are the difficult part, correct? Mass protests only show anger and dissatisfaction with corruption. Corruption exists only in an atmosphere of impunity. Mass complaining does not change the atmosphere.