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Forum Post: Why THE OCCUPY MOVEMENT is thousands of years old -------------------------

Posted 12 years ago on Jan. 10, 2012, 6:06 a.m. EST by therising (6643)
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GypsyKing just posted a link to a provocative song by Leonard Cohen. "Freedom will come from the shadows" sings Cohen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJp9bHMTy1w&feature=related .

Listen to the song sometime. But to save you time right now, here's the point: The efforts of millions around the world have and will now (as the great Dostoevsky put it in the Brothers Karamazov) "keep the great idea alive." We justify and honor the love and sacrifice that came before us by loving and sacrificing now. And because we, the millions, will win, the sacrifice will not be in vain.

Again and again the wheel turns. Our strength comes from knowing that it is a circle, not a line. We are rising once again. Humanity is rising.

As the celebrated radical Martin Luther King, Jr. put it: "Truth crushed to earth rises up...The moral arc of the universe bends towards justice."

Just as they have throughout the ages many well-meaning people decry the disorder that the occupy movement has created. But they forget another line by Martin Luther King, Jr.: "The presence of order does not imply the presence of justice."

I think Vincent Harding had it right when he said (I'm paraphrasing here): I find unsatisfying those analyses that contend that capitalism is the true root of the problems in America and around the world. There is something else at work here, something deeper, a loss of attunement, a lack of sense of self. And I believe there can be no justice on these shores (or any others) if we do not address the issue of the human spirit.

Dostoevsky seems to have addressed this lack of attunement described by Harding (and the hope described by King) when he wrote the following in the Brothers Karamazov (note 1: All 6 of the following paragraphs are Dostoevsky's words. Note 2: I wish he'd used more inclusive language of humankind rather than mankind but I'll give the accurate quote):

"Today, everyone asserts his own personality and strives to live a full life as an individual. But these efforts lead not to a full life but to suicide, because instead of realizing his personality, man only slips into total isolation. For in our age, man has been broken up into self-contained individuals, each of whom retreats into his lair, trying to stay away from the rest, hiding himself and his belongings from the rest of mankind, and finally isolating himself from people and people from him.

And while he accumulates material wealth in his isolation, he thinks with satisfaction how mighty and secure he has become, because he is mad and cannot see that the more goods he accumulates, the deeper he sinks into suicidal impotence. The reason for this is that he has become accustomed to relying only on himself; he has split off from the whole and become an isolated unit; he has trained his soul not to rely on human help, not to believe in man and mankind, and only to worry that the wealth and privileges he has accumulated may get lost.

Everywhere men today are turning scornfully away from the truth that the security of the individual cannot be achieved by his isolated efforts but only by mankind as a whole.

BUT AN END to this fearful isolation is bound to come and all men will understand how unnatural it was for them to have isolated themselves from one another. This will be the spirit of the new era and people will look in amazement at the past when they sat in darkness and refused to see the light. . .

. . . Until that day, we must keep hope alive, and now and then a man must set an example, even if only an isolated one, by trying to lift his soul out of its isolation and offering it up in an act of brotherly communion, even if he is taken for one of God's fools.

This is necessary to keep the great idea alive."

The Rastafarian poet Bongo Jerry echoed Dostevsky's sentiment when he wrote this:

"Sooner or later but mus' the dam going to bus' And every man will break out And who will stop them? The force? What force can stop this river of men who already know their course?"

The people, united, can never be defeated. Here's to millions of people, past, present and future who have kept and will keep "the great idea alive." When you look back, you realize that the occupy movement is thousands of years old.

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[-] 3 points by GypsyKing (8708) 12 years ago

Once again, great post!

Let us lift ourselves up once more; let us raise once again the banner of a higher calling. We have seen the light before in the long human story, and the times cry out for a rekindling of that light - of the painful but glorious struggle out of darkness!

[-] 2 points by therising (6643) 12 years ago

Well said. I agree. The beautiful part is there are millions of people around the world right now rising up. Each of us, all of us, were born at the right time to see it happen, to be a part of the great human awakening. Each of us is insignificant but together we are unstoppable. Millions of voices rising above the din and the clatter of the great machine. It is no match for the millions. We, the millions, can and will continue to rise above.

[-] 2 points by GypsyKing (8708) 12 years ago

Amen! Oh, and please add Plato to that list - circa 450 B.C., and Lorenzo De Medici, circa 1500 A.D.

[-] 2 points by ideeflux (2) 12 years ago

I like this conversation! Do you maybe have quotations of Plato and Lorenzo you are thinking of?

[-] 2 points by GypsyKing (8708) 12 years ago

I would have many, and perhaps I'll post some, but now I need to sign off. I'll try and get some for you tomorrow:)

[-] 1 points by therising (6643) 12 years ago

Fantastic

[-] 3 points by Listof40 (233) 12 years ago

This is a great post, it is important to be aware of the many before who have struggled throughout history to try to bring us together through ideas...

Let's try to work together and keep going until success!

[-] 1 points by therising (6643) 12 years ago

Working together is so much more satisfying and productive. Plus, we, the 99% are on the same side. Itt's about time we stop playing into the hands of corporatism .. We, the 99%, keep making their day by squabbling amongst ourselves. We all have the same foot of corporatism on our necks and we have the power collectively to remove it if we wake up.

[-] 1 points by ThunderclapNewman (1083) from Nanty Glo, PA 12 years ago

"Nothing can be more absurd than the practice that prevails in our country of men and women not following the same pursuits with all their strengths and with one mind, for thus, the state instead of being whole is reduced to half." ~ Plato

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[+] -5 points by shadz66 (19985) 12 years ago

Thanx for this 'heart centred" and uplifting post. Agitate, Educate, Organise ... and get hip about the nature of 'The Corporate Opposition' !!!

As such, re. the "Astro Turf" (cf. False Grass Roots) Tea Party, please see the following very important and revealing documentary film : "The Billionaires' Tea Party" ; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GO_WC0FINmA !!

pax, amor et lux !

[-] 2 points by therising (6643) 12 years ago

Will definitely check out this documentary. Thanks for the link. My sense is that the tea party is a manufactured movement born out of genuine frustration that was unfortunately appropriated by corporate interests because we didn't have our shit together enough to appropriate it at our end. The good news, I suppose, is that we're getting our shit together now and we, the millions, are starting to recognize that we are all on the same team. That's bad news for corporatism but great news if you happen to be a human being.

[-] 2 points by therising (6643) 12 years ago

"Agitate, educate and organize.". I love it. Reminds me of the following great quote:  "It's the grain of sand in the bottom of the oyster that gives rise to a pearl." I love that fact. Agitation is productive when leverage is applied in the right amount. . . at the right time. . . in the right place.

Together we, the millions, can create an unbelievable fulcrum, an unstoppable force that can break these corporate chains and build a new nation based on the original precepts of our founding fathers. Our system can and should serve human beings. The humans being fed upon by the system will no longer be tolerated. The pearl is in production in this oyster we call America.