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Forum Post: Marriage Freedom is Coming, DOMA is History

Posted 10 years ago on April 2, 2013, 6:46 a.m. EST by WSmith (2698) from Cornelius, OR
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One less divide in our quest for a more perfect UNION!

One more reason to Vote Cons (republicons) OUT!

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[-] 1 points by WSmith (2698) from Cornelius, OR 10 years ago

Why The Federal “DEFENSE OF MARRIAGE” ACT (DOMA) is Unconstitutional

http://www.ucc.org/assets/pdfs/emr21.pdf

[-] 0 points by sylquester (-41) 10 years ago

"Marriage Freedom"?? Is that what you're calling it now?

"Gay Marriage" is just a fantasy name,..like "assault rifle". Made up by Democrats and their legions of drones to try and create something that doesn't exist. All just propaganda to decieve the low information voters and weak minded sheepeople who eat and drink from the trough of Government extorted tax payers money.

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[-] 0 points by WSmith (2698) from Cornelius, OR 10 years ago

Freedom to marry and to not get shot are the American Way!

Massive firearm hoarding and marriage discrimination are ugly aberrations of democracy which we have neglected in our quest to make this an ever more perfect Union, just as Slavery and excluding women suffrage were, until we finally ended them. But now that we are aware of these impossible atrocities, we will put them, too, at last to rest!! None too soon. Let's hope no one suffers in discriminated marriage or dies from another GUN SLAUGHTER before we do!! Hurry up assholes!!

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[-] -2 points by inclusionman (7064) 10 years ago

58 dem sen support gay marriage. 2 repubs

http://www.boston.com/lifestyle/blogs/bostonspirit/2013/04/its_official_half_of_the_curre.html

That is the difference. Vote out all anti gay politicians

[-] 2 points by WSmith (2698) from Cornelius, OR 10 years ago

Anti- Freedom & Democracy politicians!

[-] 2 points by inclusionman (7064) 10 years ago

I can't believe there aren't enough educated voters to kick out the extremist wackos running the republican party, and destroying the country

[-] 2 points by WSmith (2698) from Cornelius, OR 10 years ago

Gerrymandering!!!

Many more sane voters voted, but the Cons have contrived false districts. They can only win by cheating.

New study shows we can override the Cheaters by increasing voter participation! Something I have heard has many great democratic advantages... so I've heard.

[-] 2 points by inclusionman (7064) 10 years ago

And that IS the goal. More participation. We can overwhelm the anti 99% neo cons.

[-] 2 points by WSmith (2698) from Cornelius, OR 10 years ago

Get out the sleeping, disenfranchised, disillusioned VOTE!!!!

[-] 1 points by inclusionman (7064) 10 years ago

Mandatory voting for all eligible citizens.

[-] 1 points by WSmith (2698) from Cornelius, OR 10 years ago

I can already hear the twisted ads and screams from flag and bible flapping RepubliCons!!

[-] -2 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 10 years ago
[-] 1 points by inclusionman (7064) 10 years ago

Not so familiar with them. What is their platform?

[-] -1 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 10 years ago

Wow, you are really on top of things eh?

Dive into the site, you will find a lot of stuff that you like.

[-] 1 points by inclusionman (7064) 10 years ago

NO thanks. If you can't say what they stand for you either don't support them, don't know, or don't care enough to do so.

Seems to me they are a tiny indignificant party that will never get a foothold in office until we change election/campaign laws.

Do they have any local office holders?

[-] -1 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 10 years ago

Do you need someone to hold your hand in everything?!!

Take a look, or dont. Do what you want.

[-] 1 points by inclusionman (7064) 10 years ago

LOL. No I don't need you to hold my hand motherfucker. You campaign for this party then be prepared to offer facts.

Why they fuck should I waste my time with this hopeless,tiny party when it's pushed by the forum libertarian/conservative shill mascott?

I ain't interested in your partisan campaigning. Especially if you can't discuss issues.

In fact I prefer only discussing issues, not parties.

[-] -1 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 10 years ago

"I can't believe there aren't enough educated voters to kick out the extremist wackos running the republican party, and destroying the country

Why would you think Im a libertarian? Why cant I just be a person?

FYI I would like to make the SEC, FDA, etc all democratically elected positions. I dont believe society has the time to monitor these thieves and criminals, so we need those agencies.

I also wouldnt mind seeing communities creating their own healthcare pools, you know....socialism!! Same for schools.

[-] 1 points by inclusionman (7064) 10 years ago

Oh "the real occupiers" Like you???

I have to tell you what occupy is doing in your own hometown.

I don't come here to impress anyone or garner support. I'll leave that to the vain, friend starved social media addicts.

I come here to do what I am doing. Post important valuable new info, and encourage action on the issues that occupy has taken a stand on, and to challenge any anti 99% elements who spew division on this site.

My efforts on the street are in support of all progressive solutions that benefit the 99%, as it has been for decades.

Anyone who starts segregating "real" and "not real" occupiers, are most likely intolerant, & bigoted (states righters?) and not worth my time.

I'm interested in discussing the issues, not dividing us by establishing who is a real occupier.

[-] 1 points by inclusionman (7064) 10 years ago

Whatever. You are clearly protecting the Kochs, (as always) You've said repeatedly you would eliminate Social security, You repeatedly call for states rights and eliminating fed pgms in place of local.

Them there is your Breitbart links.

You may be fooling some here, but not the ones who truly know you.

[-] -1 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 10 years ago

If people want to go into SS, thats fine for me. And Im not for the states power either, fyi. And yes, local is the way to go.

buy local. shop local. govern local. Very easy. If you really spent anytime occupying anything you could have experienced this. or sit on the computer for years at a time.

And if you think the real occupiers dont look at your 24/7 handle spamming as blatant attacks on the site, you are only fooling yourself.

Have a nice day loser.

[-] -1 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 10 years ago

Educated voters? When the media is controlled by the duopoly, and the debates shut out anyone with a brain, how can you expect any better?

No one wants to do their homework. No one wants to do their own things.

Its follow the leader. Right into the fire.

[-] 1 points by inclusionman (7064) 10 years ago

I know many educated voters. Occupy is educating people every day.

We have begun the necessary work to counter the bread & circuses duopoly controlled brainwashing we live under.

WE must stay focused and steadfast in that most important goal.

No use in whining and complaining, that gets us nowhere. Hard work, & sacrifice will rule the day.

[-] -1 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 10 years ago

Stating facts isnt whining. Its teaching.

[-] 2 points by inclusionman (7064) 10 years ago

Agreed. That is why I didn't say stating facts were whining.

Why would you state such an obvious fact.?

Do you disagree that whining & complaining gets us no where?

Do you disagree that hard work and sacrifice will rule the day.?

[-] 1 points by greysone (-264) 10 years ago

so, what then prevents a father from marrying his daughter, or a brother from marrying his sister, or 2 sisters marrying?

[-] -1 points by greysone (-264) 10 years ago

the article has nothing to with the question i asked you.

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[-] 1 points by greysone (-264) 10 years ago

No you did not answer the question,...what prevents a a father from marrying his daughter, or a brother from marrying his sisters, or 2 sisters marrying?

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[-] -1 points by Builder (4202) 10 years ago

Stop manufacturing consent. dickhead.

You use fake ID's to vote yourself up, and others down, to give a phoney impression that someone thinks you know what you are talking about.

If you don't like seeing this information, then the answer is simple; STOP DOING IT, DICKHEAD.

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[-] -2 points by Builder (4202) 10 years ago

Stop manufacturing consent. dickhead.

You use fake ID's to vote yourself up, and others down, to give a phoney impression that someone thinks you know what you are talking about.

If you don't like seeing this information, then the answer is simple; STOP DOING IT, DICKHEAD.

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[-] -1 points by Builder (4202) 10 years ago

It's the truth and you know it is, DM.

You should spend your time pretending you have some friends in the world.

OWS needs activists. Not pretenders. You are doing what the 1% do, by manufacturing consent. You've already been busted for doing it, and you're still doing it, you dickhead. You think we don't all see you doing it? What a cockhead you are, if you don't think we all see you voting for yourself.

COCKHEAD SUPREMO

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[-] 0 points by Builder (4202) 10 years ago

You mean I should imagine I have seven new friends? And register them as users here on this forum?

I can't remember how to do that, but I'm sure you could give me some pointers there, VQ.

You must manufacture some new consenters every day of the week, eh mate?

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[-] 2 points by greysone (-264) 10 years ago

please cite that law

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[-] 0 points by greysone (-264) 10 years ago

you said there are law(s) that cover that situtation,.....................i asked you cite the law. please be specific. provide a link(s). if you think that anyone should be able to marry anyone they choose to then that would include a mother marrying her son, or daughter, a father marrying his son or daughter, sisters marry each other, brothers marrying each other, grandmother marrying a grandson etc. please cite the laws that do not allow that.

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[-] 1 points by greysone (-264) 10 years ago

no YOU do the research and cite the law that YOU said already exists.

[-] 0 points by inclusionman (7064) 10 years ago

I told you 3 times. Incest laws! Do you know what incest is.?

[-] 0 points by greysone (-264) 10 years ago

Cite them . please be specific.

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[-] 0 points by greysone (-264) 10 years ago

No, you do the research and cite the law(s) that you said already exists.

[-] 0 points by inclusionman (7064) 10 years ago

Incest laws!!! (5 times & counting)

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[-] -2 points by Builder (4202) 10 years ago

Stop manufacturing consent. dickhead.

You use fake ID's to vote yourself up, and others down, to give a phoney impression that someone thinks you know what you are talking about.

If you don't like seeing this information, then the answer is simple; STOP DOING IT, DICKHEAD.

[-] 1 points by inclusionman (7064) 10 years ago

Renounce your homophobia and oppose the peoplewho engineered this petition.

http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2013/04/petitions_filed_to_block_royal.html

Put your hatred and homophobia aside and embrace our gay brothers & sisters.

engineer a response to this on topic current event

http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2013/04/02/1813291/louie-gohmert-if-we-limit-gun-magazine-rounds-same-sex-marriage-will-lead-to-bestiality/

your childish unfounded personal attack is off topic

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[-] -1 points by Builder (4202) 10 years ago

Off who's topic? You are manipulating and manufacturing consent.

You are using multiple identities to upvote your comments, while downvoting the comments of people you are talking to.

Which part of that are you having trouble understanding, that you are manufacturing consent?

Do I need to put your head over a scale of dumbness again?

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[-] 2 points by inclusionman (7064) 10 years ago

renounce your homophobia on this thread!!

http://www.theverge.com/2013/4/2/4175062/why-facebook-matters-in-the-fight-for-gay-marriage

Put aside your hatred and embrace the love that Occupy represents.

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[-] -2 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 10 years ago

People should be free to do whatever they want.

That being said, people should stop wanting approval from the their politicians as well.

[-] 0 points by greysone (-264) 10 years ago

so, you think its o.k for a mother to marry her son ?

[-] -1 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 10 years ago

I personally dont, but I dont get to decide what things are, in terms of free and what others arent.

Perhaps a direct democracy is more your style.

[-] -1 points by greysone (-264) 10 years ago

inbreeding produces congenital idiots,....which explains why democrats are the way they are

[-] 0 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 10 years ago

I would put anyone who votes for Republicans or Democrats in the same discussion- 100% played.

Played like a fiddle.

And too apathetic or dumb to realize it. Luckily you all can be fixed.

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[-] -2 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 10 years ago

Do you have the link to the bill in the Senate that Reid presented?

[-] 1 points by inclusionman (7064) 10 years ago

On gay marriage? I think you are confused.

Reread the thread and get back to me when you've got things straight.