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Forum Post: Making Excuses for Miami Going Under

Posted 9 months ago on Oct. 23, 2013, 4:13 p.m. EST by shoozTroll (17632)
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Global warming gets no mention...........yet.

"It seems nobody talks about climate change, but everybody wants to do something about it. Consider this head-in-the-wet-sand piece from the Miami Herald, “Rain or no rain, beachfront streets flood due to ‘spring tide’.”

You probably think it would be impossible for an entire news article on worsening street flooding in Miami to omit any mention whatsoever of global warming or even sea level rise. Think again.

“It gets super flooded from the tide every couple of months,” said [Moses] Schwartz who lived on the island for more than 20 years before moving to the Brickell area on the mainland. “It’s getting worse and worse as the years go by.”

Hmm. Why is it getting worse? The Miami Herald offers no explanation. This is all it has to say about the cause of the flooding:

The current levels of high tide are caused by an astronomical event known as “spring tide,” according to Chuck Caracozza, a meteorologist from the National Weather Service.

See, nothing to worry about. It’s just high tides. Except the article runs with this quote from Schwartz:

“It’ll be interesting to see what happens to Miami Beach in 10 to 20 years,” he said."

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2013/10/20/2806631/miami-herald-flooding-sea-level-rise/

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[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 9 months ago

I have kind of held off on responding to this post. The reality is that short term solutions may be the only kind. There are no solid long term solutions.

I know that Miami Herald has run articles in the past on climate change. I lived in the Keys. The Keys have been underwater at least 4 times. So, it isn't really a question of if but when. Most people understand this. It's a little hard to live in Florida and not understand the topography.

From the article in RS: Miami is the most connected city in America, a place where the entire economy is geared toward the next big banking deal, real-estate deal, drug deal. As Wayne Pathman, a land-use attorney in Miami, put it to me, "The biggest question for the future of Miami is how investors will react when they understand the risks of sea-level rise." The rivers of cash that are flowing into the city right now are pretty clear evidence that few investors are worried about that risk.

I think that they understand perfectly the risks. These people just don't want anyone else to understand the risks. It makes it much easier to steal and gouge that way. The political and economic climate indicates that there is an awareness of what will be occurring. Get the cash now and run like hell. If the homeless people living in the woods die......oh, well. More for me if there is no thee.

Check out these pictures. http://bahamabobsrumstyles.blogspot.com/2013_05_03_archive.html

This type of flooding has increased from the time that I lived there. Like a lot.

Here is an article from 2010. http://www.csmonitor.com/Environment/2010/0304/As-Florida-Keys-residents-confront-rising-sea-levels-what-lessons

and one from this year http://news.yahoo.com/florida-keys-prepare-sea-level-rise-083635582.html

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 9 months ago

Considering how much the Koch's and others have spent on global warming denial, is it really all that surprising that some people actually believed them?

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 9 months ago

Not at all.

Florida is not one of those places where you are gifted denial. That is a very, very small portion. Charter boats, fishing boats-the big ones and the small ones are not in denial that there has been, is, and will be be big changes.That's why I say there isn't as much denial going on there as people might think.

The impact of the increase in temperature in the Atlantic promises more hurricanes. This has been known for quite awhile.

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[-] 0 points by olmanwinter (-4) 9 months ago

Incredibly stupid! Guess it will take a few washed out high rises to get peoples' attention?

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 9 months ago

Yeppers........they'll need to buy boats to get to their apartments.

that ought to get their attention.

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[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 9 months ago

Yes indeed, it's that State hchc failed to follow the money in....N. Carolina.

They didn't want a little old thing like global warming to affect the real estate market.

So.............(R)epelican'ts to the rescue.

http://www.motherjones.com/blue-marble/2012/05/north-carolina-wishes-away-climate-change

SA had a little fun with it, but the water will still rise.

http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/plugged-in/2012/05/30/nc-makes-sea-level-rise-illegal/

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[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 9 months ago

N. Carolina got bought, Lock, stock and two smoking barrels.

I thought you knew?

Too bad hchc never followed the money. I guess he didn't want the actions of his benefactors to be known.

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[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 9 months ago

"Maybe we need to get enough people together to insist any new development won't receive FEMA compensation once the inevitable takes place."

That's not a bad idea at all.

It's not like they are going to pay for the insurance.

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[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 9 months ago

" because ultimately the property value itself is and must remain......."

ZERO. Indeed, this time when it's underwater, it really is.

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[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 9 months ago

Well, they do sometimes proudly fly the flag of proven traitors.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/25/opinion/obeidallah-confederate-flag/index.html?hpt=hp_c3

What else would you expect?

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[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 9 months ago

Cool. Tie them all together and drag them into a state of sensibility.

Kicking and screaming if necessary.

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[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 9 months ago

On the other hand, there's always Antarctica........:)

That should cool their jets a bit.

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[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (27542) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 months ago

stupid bastards. fuking insane.

Yes and Yes as it is a flat out denial of reality.

[-] 0 points by nazihunter (215) 9 months ago

Yes, yes. And let's redefine what constitutes water pollution in case we find some good areas for fracking. If you start having babies born with 3 heads, they can all vote for me....signed Senator Frick.

[-] -2 points by HCHC4 (-28) 9 months ago

Dont act like you care when this is the turd you are whoring out to during campaign season:

http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/recips.php?id=D000000091

The oil is gushing into the gulf, and there you are, on the other side of the country trying to convince people its all a lie.

What a scam.

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[-] -2 points by HCHC4 (-28) 9 months ago

Were you spamming for Cruz? No you werent. You went with the guy taking more money than them all, while this shit gushed out.

So deal with it.

You know me, spamming for ANY of them is a joke, but hey, at least you picked the winner.

The planet thanks you.

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