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Forum Post: Magnetic motor electric car without battery

Posted 2 years ago on July 25, 2012, 4:55 p.m. EST by Underdog (2971) from Clermont, FL
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Death to oil company oligarchs -- please make viral.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvO9XMBZ4DI&sns=em

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[-] 3 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 2 years ago

There are about a thousand videos on the internet demonstrating free energy magnetic motors. The only ones that work have a battery attached or are plugged into the wall and produce no energy. The rest are fraud and belong in the dustbin with all of the conspiracy theories.

Why this post is even here defies reason as much as free energy does.

[-] 6 points by Underdog (2971) from Clermont, FL 2 years ago

I don't think the point is that this is free energy (it isn't -- basic physics says you don't get something for nothing). The point is that it doesn't require oil to run a car. We simply MUST get off fossil fuels ASAP unless we want to roast ourselves.

[-] 1 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 2 years ago

Even electric cars need energy produced by some other source, whether fossil or renewable. And renewable sources are not plentiful enough to meet the demand of our increasingly excessive consumption.

Can you imagine how many windmills and solar panels and batteries it would take to replace the worlds 90 million barrel a day consumption of oil? I've converted a motorcycle, a bicycle, a tricycle, and a weedwacker to electric power. Each still needs electricity generated somewhere else.

If you really want to make a difference in fossil fuel consumption, you must cut consumption. Every new thing you buy took energy to produce. The more you buy, the more energy you consume. Thinking you are being green while spending $40,000 a year is really the opposite. No matter how many Chevy Volts are bought, they will never save the planet.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (27750) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Good thing then that real alternatives to fossil fuel are being developed.

We have the technology - we have the capability we certainly have the need.

It is all here and ready to use - and this is just what I have stumbled across.

Spread the word.

Green Tech. New and improved - now with Liquid Metal Battery for efficient power storage and distribution.

This is where we should be going: Green Energy we have the technology we just need to use it. This is what I am talking about. A clean future to be implemented NOW!

http://www.hopewellproject.org/

http://ecat.com/

http://www.wired.com/magazine/2009/12/ff_new_nukes/all/1

FuelCell Energy http://apps1.eere.energy.gov/news/progress_alerts.cfm/pa_id=600

You have got to watch this vid: The liquid Metal Battery - another piece to the puzzle.

http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/en/donald_sadoway_the_missing_link_to_renewable_energy.html

Additional Liquid Metal Battery links.

http://lmbcorporation.com/

http://lmbcorporation.com/files/flyerFinal.pdf

Support green energy technology - industry - jobs. Save our world save our economy.

[-] 2 points by jph (2652) 2 years ago

there is no free energy device,. we have to work with what we actually have available,. reduce consumption.

Search; eco-village, permaculture, slowmoney, relocalize, degrowth, etc.

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (27750) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

None that we know of - nothing is impossible no matter how improbable.

That being said I would like to build one from scratch and test it before I would consider believing the claim.

[-] 1 points by jph (2652) 2 years ago

yes, anything is possible,. only some things are more probable.

What I am saying is, we must work with what we actually have (stuff that really works now), not what we can imagine (until it is actually working). This type of 'free energy' meme is a way to keep people over consuming and destroying the planet,. so just stop! Use only what you need, not what you want, what you really need. Remember, what you take, you take away from everyone else. The planet is finite. The universe is infinite, but till we get our planet sorted, we are not able to access the infinite,. . don't get ahead of yourself.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (27750) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Good thing though that real alternatives to fossil fuel are being developed.

We have the technology - we have the capability we certainly have the need.

It is all here and ready to use - and this is just what I have stumbled across.

Spread the word.

Green Tech. New and improved - now with Liquid Metal Battery for efficient power storage and distribution.

This is where we should be going: Green Energy we have the technology we just need to use it. This is what I am talking about. A clean future to be implemented NOW!

http://www.hopewellproject.org/

http://ecat.com/

http://www.wired.com/magazine/2009/12/ff_new_nukes/all/1

FuelCell Energy http://apps1.eere.energy.gov/news/progress_alerts.cfm/pa_id=600

You have got to watch this vid: The liquid Metal Battery - another piece to the puzzle.

http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/en/donald_sadoway_the_missing_link_to_renewable_energy.html

Additional Liquid Metal Battery links.

http://lmbcorporation.com/

http://lmbcorporation.com/files/flyerFinal.pdf

Support green energy technology - industry - jobs. Save our world save our economy.

[-] 1 points by jph (2652) 2 years ago

ah yeah, do you think, at all, about the possible damage these tech will do the the world? I am all for using appropriate tech to improve life, however "molten liquid metal salts" does not sound all the benign of a technology. do you eat fish? New nukes do not interest me either,. we have so much physical potential energy, and endless solar, wind, wave, etc. there really is no need for high tech chemical, radioactive, or otherwise potentially destructive tech to produce or store energy. How much energy do you need,. really?

and why not just use less? I am happy when I am out in the woods,. and can actually see the stars,. why all the death-tech?? ride a horse,. sail a ship,. ride a bike. . too much, is too much.

[-] 3 points by DKAtoday (27750) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

The issue is shit canning the fossil fuel industry which is killing us, and destroying our environment and poisoning our water. The thorium reactor has a smaller foot print and is safer than uranium reactors. Hydrogen can be made and placed into fuel cells and burned as fuel with a water exhaust - replacing gasoline.

Look into the liquid metal battery it is made from abundant cheap materials and would allow the storage of power/electricity for use on demand.

The issue is we need to change our fuel base our technology to non polluting.

And we have the technology right now.

[-] 1 points by SteveKJR (-497) 2 years ago

All a magnetic motor is is a "generator" - remember the cars of the 50's and 60's. They used generators to produce "DC volts and current".

I believe he's doing the same thing with his example.

Now one thing about a "DC generator" is that if the shaft is turned it will produce current - if a battery is connected it will spin using up the battery power.

So does this guys design do this - I can't really tell because there are no close up shots of the wiring connections and where the wires connect to.

[-] 2 points by Underdog (2971) from Clermont, FL 2 years ago

I actually don't have the details on his technical specs. I wish I did. I know for a fact that it isn't free energy (nothing is that we know of under currently-understood physics).

But it doesn't run on oil.

The oil bastards are perpetuating our use of it to get every last cent out of oil before they switch to something else. They apparently don't care if we cook ourselves alive. If they did there would be a very rapid conversion to alternative energy. By very rapid I'm talking like in WW2 when almost our entire economy was converted to military production. The amount of ships, tanks, planes, etc. that we produced in a short amount of time was amazing. It's not that we can't get off oil in a real fast hurry, it's just that there is too much money at stake to do it, so they are dragging their feet and placing us all in jeopardy (including themselves) all for the almighty buck.

Completely reprehensible.

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[-] 1 points by friendlyopposition (574) 2 years ago

I saw this years ago about a car that runs on compressed air, made in France. The exhaust is, of course, air.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztFDqcu8oJ4

[-] 2 points by Underdog (2971) from Clermont, FL 2 years ago

Yes, I saw this a long time ago as well and I like the compressed air cars even better than what the guy in this post came up with. Last I heard the air car was suppossed to be rolled out in India just about now. I haven't heard if that has actually happenned yet or not.

[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 2 years ago

interesting. got anymore info on the topic?

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[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (27750) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

ZD - did this comment get placed on the wrong thread/post?

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[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (27750) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

It got an up-vote anyway. {:-])

[-] -1 points by bearclaw (-152) 2 years ago

Looks like someone needs their "meds" adjusted again eh???

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[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (27750) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

The pastry worshiper BC is just trying to yank your chain.

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[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (27750) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

I think you have an excellent sense of humor - "but like me "perhaps" - you do not suffer fools gladly.

[-] 1 points by ChemLady (576) 2 years ago

Cute demonstration, He doesn't say anything about how it works. From what I've been able to find out the magnetic motor doesn't work without energy being put in. Getting magnets spinning with a power source and then running a light bulb while the magnets are still coasting is a long way from a useful alternative energy source. I liked the way he moved the table around like a magician might.

[-] 1 points by ChemLady (576) 2 years ago

There is nothing here to indicate that this magnetic motor could move a car any better then conventional electric cars. Don't pin your hopes on a scam.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (27750) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

The idea should be explored/verified - for one thing "this" magnetic motor if factual would create it's own electricity for operation ( no plugging in to the power grid for a recharge ) also no mileage limitation for a days use - drive 1 mile or drive 1000 miles - no recharge down time.

[-] 1 points by ChemLady (576) 2 years ago

I think it's been explored, when you google it you get a lot of sites using the words scam and perpetual motion machine when they describe the magnetic motor. There are also plans you can buy to make one, if you don't mind being conned out of your money.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (27750) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

I have neither the money nor the technical knowledge to build and verify something like this. There should be an independent group like Nader's consumer reports that could actually do verification and provide protection to inventors of new technology. Protection of the intellectual property and publication of veracity as well as publicity for beneficial technologies.

[-] 1 points by ChemLady (576) 2 years ago

The plans have been around for years. It's not being suppressed at all, although the sites that want you to buy the plans claim it's being suppressed. It's perpetual motion and no physicist or scientific group is going to waste time looking into a hoax machine.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (27750) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Let's try this again shall we?

I have neither the money nor the technical knowledge to build and verify something like this. There should be an independent group like Nader's consumer reports that could actually do verification and provide protection to inventors of new technology. Protection of the intellectual property and publication of veracity as well as publicity for beneficial technologies.

[-] 0 points by ChemLady (576) 2 years ago

What I'm saying is you are not ever going to get any reputable scientific organization to investigate this, they all know it's a hoax. You have a better chance of getting Nader to investigate Bigfoot or the Loch Ness Monster. It's been known to be a scam for over a decade on the internet.