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Forum Post: Liberals are the intellectuals, right?

Posted 2 years ago on Sept. 24, 2012, 10:05 a.m. EST by GNAT (150)
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So why do all of the self proclaimed Liberals on this forum ignore anything to do with WallSt except to throw words at it like "Repelicant". Let me tell you, that is some high minded stuff. Forget about the open-ended welfare the Fed just granted to all 1%ers and WallSt. We need to publicly define and refine our derogatory verbiage. For proponents of science and arithmetic, the brand of liberals on this forum don't seem to be any more advanced or in favor of intellectual pursuit than the anti-GlobalWarming folks.

Just an observation.


For substantive debate on a hot topic in economics see:

"The middle and lower classes mainly experience the anti-stimulative effects of rising prices"

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[-] 3 points by TommyNYC (730) 2 years ago

:)

"The economic anarchy of capitalist society as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of the evil." -Albert Einstein

http://monthlyreview.org/2009/05/01/why-socialism

[-] 1 points by agkaiser (1314) from Fredericksburg, TX 2 years ago

No! Liberals are the intellectuals left. The intellectuals right are either hypocrites or idiots. Right?

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[-] 0 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 2 years ago

That open ended welfare is just the campaign contribution Obama was hoping for.

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[-] 2 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 2 years ago

You say that and completely disregard intelligent minds like Dennis Kucinich and Alan Grayson.

Next you'll say the Bush era TARP bailouts were awesome and giving a trillion dollars to Bank of America was great.

Why aren't we directly lending people money at .01 percent interest instead of just the banks? Why do we continue to support a monetary system that gives unlimited resources to the banks and nothing for the people?

Is this Occupy Wall Street or give more money to Wall Street?

The Federal Reserve creates money out of nothing... gives it to the banks... the banks keep it on deposit... gain interest... pays huge CEO bonuses... fat cat city... all while the rest of America falls apart.

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[-] 2 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 2 years ago

Giving Wall street more money is not a solution. It's not beneficial. It only lets them continue their reign and their fraudulent and failing practices.

Why did the DOJ let Goldman off the hook?

I fully agree we should be protesting those banksters and the corrupt members of government letting them off the hook.

We should also be protesting the corrupt monetary system that works for the banks and the 1%

[-] -1 points by yobstreet (-575) 2 years ago

I tell you what, if you allow us to settle them all in Burlington, you can have Gitmo. Nobody tried under a tribunal, which is what these civilian courts have become, belongs in an American correctional facility; it would severely impact that very life expectancy to which you here grant longevity.

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[-] 0 points by yobstreet (-575) 2 years ago

Well I'm quite certain we can find a bucket with a hole in it with which to transfer them to your humble abode.

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[-] 1 points by yobstreet (-575) 2 years ago

To me it makes no difference if he is "guilty" or "innocent" - both are subjective terms; for what, pray tell, is a war "criminal"? In war, all are murders and potential murderers. And there are no "petty" criminals.

There is only one question of significance - can the individual be safely paroled?

I have known at least two of the guards of our Iraqi POW camps - one was an African American, the other a black Trinidadian American... military prisons, by and large, have always been "hard time" because, although admittedly in some cases it is difficult to overlook, the jailor is not concerned with former criminality, he is concerned with institutional behavior.

There are no laws of civility in prison... introduce those laws, enforce a societal civility, and while physical "abuse" may subside, there will be a corresponding increase in the use of the psychological... because there is only one issue of concern and that is maintaining control in what is a strictly survival of the fittest environment.

In prison, it doesn't matter whether we agree or disagree, this is the world as it presents itself. And unfortunately it's not quite this simple because human beings, everywhere, are capable of extreme cruelty, which is quite often influenced by the degree of angst. In war, the personal angst is a universal.

These individuals will be no better treated in Vermont than they are in POW camps. And I'd be willing to bet your prison in Vermont offers no significant comfort; why should it?

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[-] 1 points by yobstreet (-575) 2 years ago

I did read the article; thank you very much.

Prisoners do not typically receive the cadillac plans of our congressmen; injuries and ailments are life threatening. Again this is the world as it presents itself.

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[-] 1 points by yobstreet (-575) 2 years ago

haha... innocent? Well I think that such an evaluation depends a lot on your faith in today's media spin; I have more faith in the jailors. It appears they may have pronounced a verdict: guilty!

[-] 1 points by LetsGetReal (1420) from Grants, NM 2 years ago

Pretty good.

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[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 2 years ago

what is grained by discrediting the US?

perpetual enemies?

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[-] 1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 2 years ago

"stems entirely from repelican talking points"...Really dude?

[-] 0 points by yobstreet (-575) 2 years ago

So, uhh, what's yer point?

[-] 0 points by richardkentgates (3269) from Fort Walton Beach, FL 2 years ago

It's an open-ended handout to WallSt, bub. There is no way to reconcile that with your support of Occupy. It's one or the other, you can't have it both ways.

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[-] 3 points by richardkentgates (3269) from Fort Walton Beach, FL 2 years ago

"The middle and lower classes mainly experience the anti-stimulative effects of rising prices"

The details are available on this forum, you just choose to ignore them. Convenient.

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[-] 3 points by richardkentgates (3269) from Fort Walton Beach, FL 2 years ago

The articles supply all of the information. The one I gave you the link to was written by Bevis Longstreth, a former SEC Commissioner. But I'm sure you know better, right?

[-] 2 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 2 years ago

Zendog doesn't even think bombing civilians in non-battle zones and then bombing their rescuers is a war crime. He's pretty hard to talk to.

[-] 3 points by richardkentgates (3269) from Fort Walton Beach, FL 2 years ago

indeed. ^

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[-] 1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 2 years ago

They are discussing this on CNBC right now

[-] 0 points by richardkentgates (3269) from Fort Walton Beach, FL 2 years ago

I have far more than one link or article on the matter, on this forum. You ignore all of them. You engaged this thread because it lacks substance and is confrontational, which happens to be what interests you.

[-] 2 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 2 years ago

100% accurate

[-] -1 points by CitizenofAmerika (-71) 2 years ago

Liberals are intellectuals only in there own warped minds.

[-] -1 points by yobstreet (-575) 2 years ago

"Liberal" it seems is an oxy-moron.

[-] -1 points by hazencage (58) 2 years ago

maybe not many people have read up on the dry and boring subject of economics and law?

[-] -1 points by yobstreet (-575) 2 years ago

Nah... History, family genealogy, science, technology, creative writing, art and all related disciplines... have always been my preferred subjects. I also tend to be a little outdoorsy.

I've grown to really hate all such words as those above...

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 2 years ago

the yatzi score pad is only so interesting

[-] 0 points by yobstreet (-575) 2 years ago

so true...

[-] -1 points by stinkyhippie (-7) 2 years ago

apparently that's why all you liberals get your news from Comedy Central...because of your superior intellect

[-] -1 points by stevebol (1269) from Milwaukee, WI 2 years ago

The Sky People are starting to speak our language. How's that beauty contest coming up in November looking?

[-] -1 points by richardkentgates (3269) from Fort Walton Beach, FL 2 years ago

GNAT is the NYSE symbol for Wisdomtree Trust. It's an inside joke aimed at some of the forum users.

[-] -1 points by stevebol (1269) from Milwaukee, WI 2 years ago

Someone posted an article saying the idea to use the 99% vs 1% language was brilliant. It was. It was inspired. We haven't followed up on this. It's not easy to be truely clever and the net makes us all feel clever. "Repelicant" and "lib-tard" just aren't that good. Someone here came up with "Sky People" (1%) and "Mud People" (99%). This is brillant. Sky People travel in planes (Big Birds) and shit on the Mud People. It's just what they do. I hereby motion to make 'Sky People' and 'Mud People' part of the offical OWS language. We really need a name describing democrats/republicans for those of us who feel there just isn't a big difference. I can't think of anything good. 'Washers' (short for- Washington) is the best I can do. Anyone have anything? We could use a name for 'bank' too. How about 'barn' ? I wish I was better at this. We need to invent our own language folks.

[-] -1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 2 years ago

"democraps" "teabaggers" "repelicants" "libtards"...etc....

Thats pretty much the state of our country. Not too bright.

[-] 1 points by podman73 (-652) 2 years ago

I've mentioned that you can have discourse without disrespect on here many times. I think i got called a pee-pee doo doo head.

[-] 1 points by TechJunkie (3029) from Miami Beach, FL 2 years ago

Yep, me too. For trying to say the exact same thing. Anybody who pushes for setting aside the partisan squabbling either gets labeled an agent of the 'other side' or they get a lesson in how the 'other side' is just wrong.

[-] 1 points by podman73 (-652) 2 years ago

Lol the logic of the crazy around here. I actually am an agent I'm going to cash my agent paycheck now!!!

[-] 1 points by TechJunkie (3029) from Miami Beach, FL 2 years ago

I lost count of the number of times that I've been explicitly accused of being a government psy-ops agent, intent of "cognitive infiltration" of the Occupy web site. For arguing in favor of things like voting. Campaign finance reform. Getting permits for protests. Treating cops with respect.

[-] 1 points by podman73 (-652) 2 years ago

Yea that is blasphemy around here, any display of common sense is quickly squashed. You have to use phrases like MIC and plutocratic blabla

[-] -1 points by richardkentgates (3269) from Fort Walton Beach, FL 2 years ago

That was my take on the situation too :) ^

[-] -2 points by slizzo (-96) 2 years ago

the problem, GNAT, is that the ows forums have been astro-turfed by the DNC. this site is now all about getting obama reelected.

as if that corrupt liar deserves a second term.

people are masochists.