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Forum Post: Lets Start With The Truth

Posted 10 years ago on Nov. 22, 2011, 5:33 p.m. EST by tarranttt (20)
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The 1% must be laughing at us. As a group we have no idea where we are going: no set policies, no leaders and no goals. He's four:

  1. Impeach Obama: expose his crimes:

  2. In breach of the Constitution and without the approval of Congress he attacked a sovereign nation (Libya) on behalf of the bankers and corporations (i.e. corporate state = fascism)

  3. He bailed out the Wall Street Banks and the FR, thus plunging millions of Americans into debt and homelessness.

  4. He has STRENGTHENED the Fascist Patriot Act, and Homeland Security.

On the question of Libya, what the propagandist media won't tell you is this:

Rebel accusations that Libyan soldiers massacred 1270 prisoners at the Abu Salin Prison in June 1996 has been proven a complete falsehood, a mere propaganda ploy - a lie - which the 'objective' BBC picked up and ran with, when they reported that ' More than 1,200 bodies found in Tripoli mass grave...' (25 September 2011). The truth, however, revealed the opposite. CNN, Fox News and other propaganda organs, similarly reported the same story, but were forced to concede that they were wrong: 'Members of the media were shown bones at the site, but medics with CNN staffers on the scene said the bones did not appear to be human...' The French newspaper La Liberation when it ran an article under the following headline: Libye: le vrai -faux charnier d' Abou Salim, after one of its reporters investigated the claims and visited the site, and after, declaring, that all the evidence he could find were a few 'camel bones' - that the whole thing seemed to be nothing more than a propaganda ploy (27 Sept. 2011).

According to the 2011 Human Development Index (HDI), Libya had the highest state of human development (O.760) in Africa, and was ten digets above South Africa (0.619). The United Nations Program Development Report claimed that As a Net Contributing Country, with a GDP of over US$10,000 per capita, Libya does not suffer from cases of extreme poverty, a conclusion that cannot be made about the United States of America, where US Census Bureau material, the Brookings Institution, a liberal think tank in Washington, D.C., has issued a report on the Re-emergence of Concentrated Poverty, which reveals, among other things, that the population in extreme-poverty neighborhoods (where at least 40 percent of residents live\ below the official poverty line) rose by one third from 2000 to 2005-2009. The report suggests that, given the ongoing economic slump, this process will continue. Those living in extreme poverty in the US are estimated to be 6.7 percent of the population and rising. According to the Associated Press, ' Those living in deep poverty represent nearly half of the 46.2 million people scraping by below the poverty line. In 2010, the poorest poor meant an [annual] income of $5,570 or less for an individual and $11,157 for a family of four.

'Lets look at how the Libyan people lived under Gadaffi, who we are told by the establishment media and the Obama propaganda machine (same thing) was a ruthless dictator and tyrant who exploited his people for his advantage and the advantage of his family. 1: There were no electricity bills in Libya - electricity was free. 2: There were no interest on loans, banks in Libya were state ownedand loans were given to all its citizens at zero percent interest by law. 3. Having a home was considered a human right. 4: All newlyweds received $60,000 dinar (U.S.$50,000) by the government to buy their first apartment and help start a family. 5: Education and medical treatments were free. Before Gaddafi, only 25 percent of Libyans were literate. Prior to his demise, the figure was 83 percent. 6: Libyans who wanted to farm, received farm land, a farm house, equipment,seeds and livestock to kick start their businesses for free. 7: If Libyans couldn't find the education or medical facilities they need, the government funded them to go abroad. It paid for accommodation and car allowance. 8: If a Libyan bought a car, the government subsidized 50 percent of the price. 9: The price of petrol in Libya was $0.14 per liter. 10: Libya had no external debt and its reserves amounted to $150 billion which are now frozen globally.

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[-] 2 points by tarranttt (20) 10 years ago

TROLL= someone with ideas I don't agree with

[-] 2 points by R3volution (19) 10 years ago

Libya Truth. Central bankers had to delete Qaddafi.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJURNC0e6Ek

[-] 3 points by tarranttt (20) 10 years ago

Absolutely!

[-] 2 points by tarranttt (20) 10 years ago

R3volution, that's an excellent vid! Check the background. Doesn't look like a 'poor' country where the ruthless Gaddafi has done his best to 'torture and enslave his people', to use Obama's words. Look at all those hovels, the filthy streets, the under nourished children, camels and dead dogs as far as the eye can see...

[-] 1 points by winwin4all (4) 10 years ago

Other truths are: 1) Lawyers who run for office work for the british crown and not for the US Republic government (these liars take a secret oath called "kol nidre" which is israeli - - because israel was created by the british and join the BAR = British Accredited Registry) 2) Only Corporations run the USA (no real republic government)

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, INC.
Non-profit Delaware Corporation Incorporation Date 4/19/89 File No. 2193946 (USA Corporation...disguised as Federal Gov't - - using a fraudulent constitution.)

INTERNAL REVENUE TAX AND AUDIT SERVICE (IRS) For Profit General Delaware Corporation Incorporation Date 7/12/33 File No. 0325720

FEDERAL RESERVE ASSOCIATION (Federal Reserve) Non-profit Delaware Corporation Incorporation Date 9/13/14 File No. 0042817

CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AUTHORITY INC. (CIA) For Profit General Delaware Corporation Incorporation Date 3/9/83 File No. 2004409

SOCIAL SECURITY CORP, DEPT. OF HEALTH, EDUCATION AND WELFARE For-Profit General Delaware Corporation Incorporation Date: 11/13/89 File No. 2213135

3)Here’s the document that shows the comparison of the two constitutions (the fraudulent corporate one for those who work for the british crown and our real US Constitutional Republic one): http://phoenixmaterials.org/pdf/100616.pdf

How Can The American People Ever Trust Congress Again After Learning Of The Rampant Insider Trading That Has Been Going On? http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/after-all-of-the-crazy-insider-trading-that-now-has-been-revealed-how-can-the-american-people-ever-trust-congress-again?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=after-all-of-the-crazy-insider-trading-that-now-ha

Full-Blown Civil War Erupts On Wall Street: As Reality Finally Hits The Financial Elite, They Start Turning On Each Other | The 2012 Scenario Posted by Laura Tyco ⋅ September 4, 2011

http://2012indyinfo.com//?s=congress+caught+insider+trading

For more educational info, please go to: http://wakeupnowearth.blogspot.com http://reclaimearth.blogspot.com

[-] 1 points by seeker (242) 10 years ago

Excellent post I agree 100%

If all war profiteers and those responsible for the deceit were tried as criminals and their assets seized there would be little left of the 1% that really mattered..

[-] 1 points by exmachina (94) 10 years ago

While I completely agree with your post, little people around this forum will be open to understanding the role US played in Lybia. They are programmed to tolerate and not to question the Fascist states foreign policy.

[-] 1 points by alouis (1511) from New York, NY 10 years ago

And the "freedom loving rebels" (now rulers) are in fact islamists who are bringing back polygamy and who hunt down black skinned people for murder, torture and rape.

[-] 1 points by JoeTheFarmer (2654) 10 years ago

Then why did the Lybians rise up?

[-] 2 points by tarranttt (20) 10 years ago

They didn't!

[-] 1 points by SierraPalmer (12) from Florence, CO 10 years ago

TROLLS!!!

[-] 1 points by oreoobama (49) 10 years ago

OWS is a front for A I PAC, OWS will NEVER tolerate Truth.

OWS only has one goal, to re-elect Obama to kill more arabs and start a war in IRAN.

[-] 1 points by tarranttt (20) 10 years ago

Who's saying that? Not me. You are being sarcastic, Sierra, and making assumptions where they don't exist..stick to the facts. Stop white ant-ing the debate because someone doesn't agree with you.

[-] 0 points by oreoobama (49) 10 years ago

I 100% agree with your points above, but the problem is that OWS is a front for OBAMA's re-election, now he goes to the right and lobby's for a war in Iran for I S R A E L, in the meantime he corral's the left with OWS, when he needs the left for election next year they will be steered to the OREO with the rhetoric, he's bad but he's the best we got, and the left will eat this shit.

But I agree with everything you say, the OREO-OBAMA a sell-out a crook, an a dishonor to the free people of the world.

But OWS represents the dark-power that brought you home-land security in the first place, everytime I post a homeland security post on OWS they delete it, why? Because OWS loves the police state..

[-] 2 points by tarranttt (20) 10 years ago

I'd be careful not to attack OWM. There are a lot of good people involved. There are some who have a vested interest in guiding the movement away from the real issues. The truth is there is no difference between the republicans and the democrats= scumbags. If you open your eyes you'll see that Obama has REINFORCED policies put in place by the Bush administration. Check it out....

[-] 0 points by oreoobama (49) 10 years ago

Yes, but the OWS has already been co-opted by TEAM-OBAMA(OREO)[tm]

Already if you mention RP the name gets mod'd to Tahl, and if you mention A I P A C, your altogether deleted from post. The OWS like any colony of bacteria might well contain a few 'good cells', but in general the OWS is ran by botulism that is A I P A C, that controls the DEM-PARTY and has done so for 40+ years, the ADL has been carefully controlling the MSM since 1920's. The OWS are hypocrits, so be careful of what. They say "This is what democracy looks like", and then they delete posts, an insinuate any line but their party-line is conspiracy,

No thanks I'm not slow, I have been an anarchist 40+ years, an emma-goldman anarchist, and I know the right-wing very well, they always like to control both ends of the debate, chomsky has written much about the game they play with movements such as these. In spirit even chomsky supports OWS, and why not, but on the other hand BASTARDS clearly control the GUTS of the OWS, and somebody MUST SPEAK UP before its too late.