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Forum Post: Let's 'Fake Pretend" that OWS is Sincere about Fixing America ... The Debate Begins

Posted 9 years ago on Feb. 29, 2012, 3:09 a.m. EST by egoldman (-5)
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Let's 'Fake Pretend" that OWS is Sincere about Fixing America ... The Debate Begins

So the civil rights movement wasn't able to get laws made and enforced to secure the rights of all people? The NRA, AARP, environmental groups never get legislation passed? [ Excellent example of grass roots "Little People" Power in the USA - NRA&AARP]

I propose to use a system already in place, while demonstrating against its inequities. It's worked for other groups. What do you propose and, more importantly, is there a way to get what you want?

You look at the representative republic as beyond hope, that colors your thinking on the matter (We're all guilty of bias, mine just favors of the system). No democratic system is workable with apathetic uninformed voters. Even Athens had leaders that misled the people. [ Athens 'leaders' like the USA 'leaders' sold their people out to the bankers years ago ]

The NRA & AARP have taken almost 100 years to accomplish their power.

The OWS in 5 months is pissed off it has no power, it only has liars and fools.

The first thing you have to have is 'respect' for everyone, .. funny that you compare the AARP & NRA to the OWS in terms of large organizational power.

It tooks years for the NRA to have the kind of clout it has today. One of the reasons for its success is that its very careful about its 'board' and picks only the best & brightest, and it rotates them all every few years.

OWS on the other hand is ran by liars and morons who hide and call their organization 'leaderless'. OWS has no fucking hope in hell of ever finding any clout, because its rotten to the core on the inside.

Yes I agree about the time it often takes to build any good organization. I used to mention the tea party but that seems to raise more negativity then the NRA does on here.

My basic position is to fix whatever your group can agree is broken through the system we have. I've learned that many of the most vocal OWS supporters consider the system beyond hope, but don't have much to realistically offer as a replacement at least not openly.

I don't think anyone knew how many Occupy supporters there were in the various cities across the nation in the first couple of months. That could have worked in their favor.

You may be right about lack of veracity in the leadership. I feel they would prefer a total collapse of the economic system and see it as an opportunity to advance an anarchistic-socialist agenda.

The OWS is not sincere, real, or anything. The internet forums exists because of the BOT's and Indian Call Centers paid for by Goldman-Sach's & SEIU ( Van Jones ) to re-elect Obama 2012, and keep the bankers out of prison.

The protesting was largely driven by partying and free food in the summer months in the city's of the USA, when it got cold the party's were terminated. They'll come out again in the spring and there will be more free food and more partying.

But this is not real, .. you brought up AARP & NRA first, and they are excellent examples of "HOW ITS DONE", ... no attempt here.

From day-one this has been a secret organization ran by Kalle-Lasn from his CANVAS project financed by SOROS. The 99% is total bullshit, in fact the bullshit is so deep here that almost all rhetoric is deleted because it can't be justified.

Where do we go? What do we do?

First of all you have to realize the USA is bankrupt, and its never again going to be the way it was, the USA is 100X more bankrupt than Greece.

The austerity coming to America will be un-imaginable. That's the first debate that needs to be done, ... but nobody here wants or thinks about reality.

First realization is that Obama is NOT the solution as he is owned by Goldman Sachs, the stated enemy of OWS, the hated 1% is OBAMA &Blankfien &Dimon &Corzine.



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[-] 3 points by go99ers (31) 9 years ago

Let's Fake Pretend that anyone here gives a shit about your posts. You are a spam machine

[-] 3 points by GypsyKing (8708) 9 years ago


[-] -1 points by egoldman (-5) 9 years ago

Let's fake pretend that that the DNC didn't get more money from Goldman Sach's than the RNC.

Hell with the fake pretend, ... let's pretend that 99% of the US public believe everything that the OWS hides from them.

[-] 1 points by BradB (2693) from Washington, DC 9 years ago

if Goldman Sach's gave OWS a million bucks would we take it ?

[-] -3 points by egoldman (-5) 9 years ago

Goldman Sach's OWNS OWS.

Have you ever given a thought why the that OWS talks shit about the 1% and bankers and yet The Biggest Banker in the world Lloyd Blanfein is the biggest contributor to the OWS golden-boy Obama.

Never a peep here about Obama and Blankfein, anytime anybody ever points out the hypocrisy their post is deleted.

I would suggest that OWS was created by Goldman Sach's, given especially the Government Sacks ... is the OWNER of the US government, and OWS is a DHS Fusion Center honeypot.

Every wonder why they put so many youtube.com posts here, so that people get their TOR hijacked by google, which owns youtube.

Nope OWS only exists to determine the location of dissidents so they can be taken off the street permanently.

Would OWS take money from Goldman Sachs? Would their golden-boy Obama?

[-] 2 points by BradB (2693) from Washington, DC 9 years ago

well ... then goldman sachass... is going to be pretty lonely when 99% of the population has been rounded up as dissidents

[-] 1 points by April (3196) 9 years ago

Let's fake pretend that you're not a mentally ill conspiracy theorist.

Goldman Sach's "owns" OWS? DHS Fusion Center honeypot? Sorry, I can't fake pretend anymore, you're clearly a mentally ill conspiracy theorist. Completely stupid baseless claims with no basis in fact. Go take your meds.

Use the search feature. There are plenty of posts here about Wall Street and Goldman Sachs.

Would OWS take money from Goldman Sachs. Who knows. What's the point of speculating on this? Something that most likely will never happen.

How about we speculate about little green men from outer space come here and kidnap Lloyd Blankfein, take him to their leader on the planet Zoltar and put him in Zoltarian jail with no due process. Would we allow that to happen? Let's speculate on all sorts of ridiculous and highly unlikely pretend scenarios. Sounds like fun doesn't it? No matter that it won't accomplish anything. We'll just make up all sorts of riduculous things for the pure entertainment of it.

Have you ever given a thought to upping you meds? Check with your doctor.

[-] 1 points by FriendlyObserverB (1871) 9 years ago

I have offense questioned the roots and the motives of OWS. My worst case scenario was that of foreign warfare. If Goldman is funding this project that would be a relief.

That being said.

The forum gives everyone an opportunity to publically discuss political and e inimical matters. Sure we could use the old method of writing congress , or trying to get on a public radio talk show. And of course the third option, " a note in a bottle". All three would have equal results.

Personally I enjoy the discussions. And the subject is of great importance to us all.

I hope this continues. Yes we need results. Given time and patience these discussions may prove fruitful.

So once again , I would like to say thankyou OWS , for opening up this discussion and providing this platform.


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Let's fake pretend that you are brand spanking new and have never been to this forum before.

Well, that was fun.