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Forum Post: Let us review again an important concept

Posted 12 years ago on Nov. 12, 2011, 2:19 p.m. EST by fredastaire (203)
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The value of a company comes from the product. second in the chain of value is the producer. Execs and corporations are simply the middleman between my purchase(demand) and the employees that make the product(supply). This is a concept I will be driving far and wide. Some time after the turn of the year, I will be launching and ad campaign not for a product, but to spread this concept.



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[-] 2 points by powertothepeople (1264) 12 years ago

Sometime in the past fifty years, the customer stopped being the main focus of publicly held corporations that provide consumer products & services.

The stockholder became more important than the customer and that is the root of many of the problems we are seeing today.

[-] 1 points by JonoLith (467) 12 years ago

Funny, I always though the value of a company came from people.

[-] 1 points by fredastaire (203) 12 years ago

not every company requires , i saw it coming a mile away.

[-] 1 points by JonoLith (467) 12 years ago

So they sell to... what? Oh... people. Funny.

[-] 1 points by rosewood (543) 12 years ago

Why do you need to spread this concept ...for what purpose ?

[-] 1 points by fredastaire (203) 12 years ago

Is it not true? What does an exec offer to a corporation that is more valuable than labor? Socializing? Managing the value of a company? Have you ever done physical labor? The benefit you are owed for time to educate and learning to use your mind is not having to work as hard for your money. If it's so much easier to perform physical labor, why do people making a good living doing it, go back to school. Because physical labor Is so hard, it literally takes years off your life. Me, the customer, I create jobs with demand for a product. The person producing the product is who I am looking for when I got to buy said product. Sometimes it takes many to produce the product. So it is those many I am looking for when I want to purchase. The middleman is there only because it is simpler in that format. The middleman is the unwelcome necessity in the situation, not those making what I want.

[-] 1 points by rosewood (543) 12 years ago

...and how are you applying this to OWS and this present struggle ?

[-] 1 points by fredastaire (203) 12 years ago

I'm not. I have another project for that http://citicommons.com

[-] 1 points by nucleus (3291) 12 years ago


Formerly troll Richard Gates, still trying to capitalize on the work of OWS and others.

[-] 1 points by TechJunkie (3029) from Miami Beach, FL 12 years ago

If you're a business expert then why don't you start a successful business? If all that it takes is a product and customers, then it should be easy, right? All that you need is a product, and customers. Hmm, how are you going to find those two things and connect them... There must be people who specialize in finding those two things and connecting them... Oh that's right -- the job of the executives is to create products and find customers! (Which is a lot harder than you seem to think that it is.)

[-] 1 points by fredastaire (203) 12 years ago

I present to you, My Job http://richardkentgates.com releasing a new platform after the first of the year. A CMS with dual interface, one for the client, one for the designer. At night during the tourist season, I cook here > http://www.floydsshrimphouse.com

So I do sell a product without a middleman, and I work for a middleman.

Your assumptions and divisive nature are more of a problem to this country than my employment status.

[-] 1 points by stevemiller (1062) 12 years ago

We are fighting propaganda. Propaganda is the weapon that controls the minds of Americans. read more - http://overthecoals.blogspot.com/

Every person controlled by propaganda, denies being controlled. It is up to each individual in the privacy of his own mind to consider his/her own behavior. If you are unwilling to examine self destructive behavior that is impacting your own ability to get a job, to allow the privileged to transfer your wealth to them by unfair taxation, to poison your air/water/food (remember the BP oil spill), and to bribe the entire congress for laws benefiting them at your expense, then you are a traitor.

Each one of these individuals defensively denies having a weak mind that can be manipulated. It is that defense that backfires. If people understood that their own self destructive behavior which forces them to vote for either of the 2 bribed candidate with the most money. The amount of money raised indicates which candidate has been bribed. When the bag men spread the cash to both Democratic and Republican candidates in the race, its because they don't know for sure who will win the election.

It is stupid and ignorant to vote for any candidate receiving bribes. The reason no American will call the bribes by name is the obvious fact that proves each of the 98% voting for the bribed candidate is in the deep propaganda trance they deny. They are too arrogant to consider they might be bribed. They would rather be thrown into the street with no job prospects than to deal with the trance that drives them to vote against themselves.

Curiosity that examines the irrational behavior is necessary to snap the trance. But the arrogance prevents the curiosity with denial. It is the same as a dog chasing his own tale going round and round.

There can be no end in sight until dealing directly with the propaganda trance begins on a national scale. The alternative will be electing the same crooks taking bribes. Its up to each individual to recognize self destructive behavior.

[-] 0 points by mediaauditr (-88) 12 years ago

Yes Fred, you make sense. Corporations operate within the laws set forth by our lawmakers = politicians. It's a 100% waste of energy to be angry at corporations. Be angry at corrupted politicians. PERIOD. End of story. Vote both sides out in 2012.


[-] -1 points by stevo (314) 12 years ago

......."Execs and corporations are simply the middleman between my purchase(demand) and the employees that make the product(supply)"?

So companies should just operate..without any executives?

This is the point you are "Driving far and wide".

Freaking numbskull. How old are you? 7?

[-] 1 points by fredastaire (203) 12 years ago

oh no, they need execs. but to be paid at their worth. they manage value, not create it. squirm fight and deflect all you like.