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Forum Post: Lack of a Message? Start up a newsletter!

Posted 12 years ago on Sept. 27, 2011, 2:03 p.m. EST by riethc (1149)
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This might sound overly ambitious, but what about starting up a weekly newsletter for OccupyWallStreet? It doesn't have to be more than a single double-sided page.

As long at it is mainly informative, it can stick with the direct-democracy values of the movement while legitimizing it in the minds of the general public, plus it can be used to recruiting tool.

What do you guys think?



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[-] 2 points by gawdoftruth (3698) from Santa Barbara, CA 12 years ago

heres the place to start. organize a meaningful topical structure on this site, with sub forums per main topic. Then start up a wiki and do the same thing. This "movement" is headless until it does that and even starting up a newsletter would only generate assorted bits with no filing cabinet to keep them in.

[-] 1 points by sudoname (1001) from Berkeley, CA 12 years ago

a wiki.. interesting idea. with the support of anonymous, a really good website shouldn't be that hard. by the way, there is a wikipedia article on OWS with a more unified message: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupy_Wall_Street

[-] 1 points by gawdoftruth (3698) from Santa Barbara, CA 12 years ago

if you ask me its a fatal error that anonymous hasn't got a wiki up yet. This should have been done long ago. We need to put a rush on it and ride the energy thats been created and channel it into meaningfully constructive paths of right action. We need to organize people into think tanks, we need an information centered science centered revolution. Most people have no idea that the absolute death of oligarchy and the current form of fake capitalism we have going and the death of both political parties is as easy as plugging knowledge that already exists into the general public. Ignorance is the true enemy here. If 51 percent of the public KNEW the TRUTH, the revolution would be more or less over by morning... and no republic and no democrat could ever manage to get elected to office in this country ever again. We need to form a political party, we need to get our people into office, we need a standard detailed political platform- based in science fact instead of opinion.

[-] 1 points by sudoname (1001) from Berkeley, CA 12 years ago

according to wikipedia this site is "backed" by adbusters, not anonymous. adbusters are canadian too, nothing wrong with that, but they should really be based in NYC or something.

if you ask me, the ideas of OWS are unrepresented in congress. it would be political suicide for a congressman to suggest any level of control to corporations. if you ask me, a parliament would be a great step forward to being actually represented. if the OWS party got 5% of the votes nationwide, the ideas would get noticed. (I like the name "Wall Street Party" for the irony)

[-] 1 points by gawdoftruth (3698) from Santa Barbara, CA 12 years ago

which is why we need a new party and a peoples revolution, of people in office who will stand up to corporations.

[-] 1 points by sudoname (1001) from Berkeley, CA 12 years ago

we've had new parties but they don't get elected because their support is spread across the country, not concentrated in a congressional district (even in super liberal places like the sf bay area). if 5% of the country votes for the green party, for example, they simply weaken the party they didn't vote for, and can't hope for 5% representation in congress.

[-] 1 points by gawdoftruth (3698) from Santa Barbara, CA 12 years ago

right. so. what does that tell us? we need to convince 51 percent of the population to agree with and stand by us. protesting in the streets isn't doing that. Creating a political platform can do that. Again its about information quality and density. When all the republicrats can do is parasite a problem and make it worse and make believe they are trying to solve it as they suck the life from civilization, and we come up with strong and real and solid solutions, its clear to see where the publics mind will shift.

[-] 1 points by gawdoftruth (3698) from Santa Barbara, CA 12 years ago

i don't like the "wall street party". Lately i have been working on NICE. Needs/ Instincts Centered Economics/ Education. A NICE party has more or less even been started by me on Facebook.

[-] 1 points by MKittles (36) from Maralinga, SA 12 years ago

Parliament is the last place you want to be if you want radical ideas taken seriously.

Guess what: just because something is bad for 99% of Americans, doesn't mean changing it isn't considered radical.

[-] 1 points by gawdoftruth (3698) from Santa Barbara, CA 12 years ago

its the first place you MUST be if you want REAL change.

[-] 1 points by MKittles (36) from Maralinga, SA 12 years ago

An internet-newsletter would be the way to go I think (it can, after all, be printed periodically). A formal discussion forum would perhaps be prudent (not that I think outsiders such as myself would likely be allowed to join).

What would make the discussion formal though?

[-] 1 points by riethc (1149) 12 years ago

I think the newsletter can be made formal by approval at the GA, along with the necessary guidelines to keep it open and democratic.

[-] 1 points by ZinnReader (92) from Encinitas, CA 12 years ago

I think one message is pretty clear and that is to raise awareness and anger about an unjust economic system and the political forces that foster it. Wealth and power has been further concentrated to small sectors of our society and democracy has suffered because of it. People do not want to live under oppressive institutions and policies -- they want basic control over their resources and lives.

The 2008 election created a wonderful synergy that is still reverberating everywhere. National working-class rallies and labor protests earlier this year seemed to energize this growing community. And now this movement about economic injustice and taking back our democracy is echoing similar sentiments. This is significant, but, as you say, the message can be further honed.

[-] 1 points by joogle (55) 12 years ago

The 8th USA Parliament also has a monthly bulletin, as well as day-to-day updates, and all new self appointments, elected members and other voting is updated daily:


A duplicate is also posted in the interactive Old Forum on http://www.roseanneworld.com because the US Parliament's forum isn't interactive because there is no volunteer moderator. On the Roseanne World Old Forum, Queen Roseanne the First [Green Tea] pays a programmer (that's why she's the Queen) but you still must start an account to post in the politics section.

To find the link to the USA Parliament bulletins, click on http://www.usparliament.org and then "Forum" in left nav bar.

To find Queen Roseanne the First's [Green Tea] forum, click on her name on the USA Parliament's index page in the link posted in previous sentence, on the top right column where it says "Forum".