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Forum Post: Know Your Enemy - Not knowing Who We're Fighting Is Like Throwing Punches In The Dark

Posted 6 years ago on April 21, 2012, 11:22 p.m. EST by Reneye (118)
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Much of the reporting here on OWS is wonderful, of course, but I stand by my original post on OWS, that stated that we will not get very far until we expose the root cause.

There are varying good arguments as to what the root cause is. I agree that "getting money out of politics" is high on the list, but it will only work if the people at the top are good people, because it doesn't matter if corporations are giving campaign funds while working within a law that states they can only give X amount of dollars when the majority of funds are exchanged in backrooms and come from government drug trafficking, government child sex trafficking, war, gun smuggling, murder for hire, extortion, genocide and every kind of debauchery you can think of (and some you can't). The level of government corruption is beyond, beyond, beyond what is mostly discussed on this forum. It is dark and evil and all the fixing of laws in the world will make very little change for us because the people at the tippy top work above the law. Laws don't exist for them.

Republican this, democrat that, taxes, climate fraud, whatever.......NONE of that matters. Its silly. It pales in the face of the 'true' goings on at the top echelons. We're spinning our wheels talking about useless shit and they're laughing at us for being so easily distracted by the useless drivel they throw in front of us to keep us busy while they continue with "business" as usual. Its a joke, perpetrated on us by a cruel, well honed and sinisterly trained group of psychopaths who both watch each other's backs and stab each other in the back.

Wake up you guys. Its not too late....but almost.

We need to look at and acknowledge some pretty creepy and ugly stuff before we can go any further. In my view, OWS as it is, is no threat to them. Now before you go getting all upset, let me just say that "I love OWS", but I think that it will only become its most effective if they see that we KNOW EXACTLY WHO the real decision makers are and we KNOW what despicable crimes they're guilty of. True exposure....is what they fear the most. Life imprisonment would be the lightest sentence they could hope for when the masses all become aware of elite's crimes against humanity.

Until we expose the "real" decision makers, oust them, and get honest and decent people at the top who want to perpetuate health, light and love in this world, there is no hope. The link below is just one example of how insane the people at the top are. These are the people (I use the word 'people' loosely here) that preside over us. It is far darker and more sinister than we can imagine. Our world needs to operate from a much healthier place than it has up until now. It is time to take the power away from these psychopaths and govern ourselves from a place of health, so we can take care of our children, our lives, and our planet.

I think people are really afraid to acknowledge how truly dark most of the governments of the world operate. I agree it is scary. Many brave people who have tried to expose this fact have lost their lives or family members while trying to help humanity. But little will change for us unless we work....together.....en masse....to expose the people at the very top.

This link shows just one example of what I am talking about.


main site...highly recommended alternative news site.




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[-] 2 points by timirninja (263) 6 years ago

trying to keep forum alive =) here is your post bounce back http://occupywallst.org/forum/who-is-in-power/#comment-712447

[-] 1 points by Reneye (118) 6 years ago

Much obliged !!

[-] 2 points by TheMisfit (48) 6 years ago

I have been posting for months here that until DC changes, Wall Street has no incentive to change their ways. DC enables Wall St to conduct business as it currently does by enacting laws that supports corruption while expanding a tax code that rewards shady business practices. Until the people wake up and see that our current government is at the heart of the problem, nothing will change. Unfortunately, many of OWS are in the pocket of the Dems (knowingly and some unknowingly) and they refuse to admit to the fact that DC is where true change needs to occur. If OWS does not admit to this fact, they will remain nothing more than a tool of the left.

[-] 2 points by Reneye (118) 6 years ago

I agree with the tone of your post, however, human nature being what it is, no-one will admit to anything so long as they think their behavior is buried by the fact that events in DC or anywhere for that matter are not tied directly to their personal names. Shine a light on their connection, and its a different story. They (elitest of the elite) need to see their names on signs, in the papers and on tv. You'll see change in a big hurry then. I think we've let them make this far too complicated. We've let them wreak havoc with issue after issue. Its subterfuge to keep the chaos prevailing and bickering amongst each other. The answer is staring us right in the face and its simple....NAME THEM loud and clear.

[-] 1 points by GypsyKing (8719) 6 years ago

I think this is a very good point you make here Reneye. The whole idea of the corporate system is to separate individuals from the crimes they perpetrate. Naming names is a very good idea.

[-] 1 points by Reneye (118) 6 years ago

Yes! And how easy could it be ?! Ideally, OWS could have these signs made professionally from OWS money, but I can't imagine that TPTB would ever let that happen. However, who doesn't have a piece of cardboard, a stick and a marker. This is the easiest, fastest and cheapest way to get 'their' attention. To reiterate, I'm speaking here of the very top echelon of people who run the world, not the ceo's of corporations and banks unless they have connections to UN, EU, IMF, Federal Reserve, Trilateral Commission, etc. Take out the top of the ruling elite and the ones underneath crumble. This is far easier than we think. "They" have made it look convoluted and complex to keep us very busy running around in circles, getting very little done. We need to move on this. Other than OWS does anyone have any other connections/ideas how we can spread the word??

[-] 2 points by JadedGem (895) 6 years ago

A handy list would need to be compiled. It'd be nice if you could get people all over facebook linking to them or picking them up like bumper stickers for their walls!

[-] 1 points by Reneye (118) 6 years ago

Here's a start from a post I wrote on another thread; feel free to ad any names of the .01% ruling elite.

The real people in power are not necessarily the people we visually see such as the heads of state. The real decision makers are the wealthiest of the wealthiest. The ones who like to stay out of the headlines whenever possible. We need to shine the lights on them. Here's just a few;






Saudi Royals
















The Lis



Van Duyns

[-] 1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 6 years ago

Excellent post. I agree. This gov was bought out long before citizens united came into play.

Whether the criminals are publicly funded or not does not change their criminal status. That is what you get when you have two super parties for over 100 years.

[-] 1 points by Reneye (118) 6 years ago

Thank you!

Finding out who these people are is not hard, many of them have already been named here on this forum. All we have to do is look to the oligarchs, elite families and monarchs. I'm talking here about the 1% of the 1%. The other thing to look at is the family 'foundations' these people have formed and use to infiltrate, manipulate and coerce powerful institutions.

Spreading the message of who they are is also easier than we might think, despite not having the MSM on our side to help us.

Picture these two scenarios and tell me which one will get the elite oligarchs to take notice and sit a little straighter in their chairs when they see it.

  1. Hundreds of thousands of protesters in the streets with various signs with remarks about all the various items from the headlines that "they" have created, such as taxes, college tuition, freedom, education, banksters, corporatism, socialism, republicans, democrats, corruption, equal pay, private jails, fema camps, military industrial complex, race, war, and on and on and on. The elite decision makers are sitting in their offices and castles toasting each other, looking out at the sea of disgruntled masses, quite happy that the elite's campaign of mass "subterfuge" has worked because the masses clearly haven't figured out who really did this to them, and clearly aren't co-ordinated enough to direct their anger in any one direction, institution or group of people.

  2. Hundreds of thousands of protesters in the streets with signs stating only the individual "Names" of the .01% along with the crimes they have committed. Whether that be drug smuggling, treason, child trafficking, gun smuggling, genocide, mass fraud, rigging, assassinations, extortion, etc, etc....Who's paying attention NOW? Who's thinking "Holy Shit! They know we f*cked them over. Where do we go now?"

The answer, no-where. They would have no-where to hide. Game over. They think we're IDIOTS! They actually think we don't know!

We have to show them once and for all that we know who they are. If all the ows people use this forum, and even more visible is if the protesters used signs and focused on the ONE thing guaranteed to make the .01% pace a hole in their marble floors, THEIR "NAMES", along with their CRIMES, then we have a great chance for a good outcome. Even though the media will not show those signs, the people on the sidelines in the communities, and apartment buildings, and the police officers, the military, the shopkeepers, the mother and father walking their kids to school, etc, would see the signs, then quickly investigate for themselves and in pretty short order everyone would know who pulled the rug out from under us.

I see this strategy as the ONLY thing that will work at this point. As long as they see a mass of people using non-specific blanket statements going in a million directions, "they" will see this as a gigantic success. No...I say, its time to get personal !!!