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Forum Post: It seems that Romney will win

Posted 5 years ago on Oct. 26, 2012, 7:32 a.m. EST by ThomasJefferson (10)
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Obama would get in a second management the same economic failure that obtained in the first, while Republicans are willing to stabilize the economy, even if only temporarily, by military enterprises, as did Bush invading to Iraq. For this reason they will be instinctively favored by voters.

Conscious civil society should present with a revolutionary attitude, without falling into bureaucratic paradigms as that "a draft amendment needs at least a year be approved", claiming to start a real improvement of the economy from the government spending, which outgoing Congress approve in an amendment like the following before November 6:

-Elected rulers and public officials are obliged to consensus their decisions and management of public resources with civil society through the free participation of voluntary, independent, autonomous and honorary citizens. So that actions and management of public funds of rulers and officials are subject to legal process (dismissal and criminal prosecution) if they fail to abide by any agreement or in consultation with civil society. -Each officer or ruler may convene meetings of discussion and decision of agreements, or let a Consensus Act in his Office or web site, where each person who wants to participate will vote in favor or against the government plan and budget, subscribing with his name and any identifying information. So that everyone can be convinced that every action and spending that is running the Government had at least the support of 50% + 1 of the people affected.

  • In the case of governmental plans rejected by civil society, this will have to organize sessions to analyze and discuss, in person or via technology, and formulate alternative proposals through Agreed Minutes sent to officials and rulers, to consider these in the redesign that they will have to make of their plans.

This type of legislation would free the country's political development. Starting with the social movements of protest would render to become propositional, leaving the marches and sit-ins as main resources, to use social networks, virtual and physical, in the debate and decision of agreements that will allow civil society, from its monitoring and review of government action, become in its most valuable partner and finally legitimating and defender of its administration. Implying a social, economic and cultural development based on widespread community work.

It must immediately appoint a list of socially recognizable personalities, as non-registered candidates for different elected positions, willing to pass an amendment like this among their first acts of Government. For in case that none of the political parties try to even formulate the legislative proposal at the Congress, aware civil society agreed to vote for the list.

Because if in an effort to get more votes a political party dares to make such legislative proposal, the other would have to support it pretending to win the election, and it would accelerate to pass the amendment.

Voting for unregistered candidates probably could not avoid Romney's victory, but could set the direction of what civil society must make in electoral processes to no longer be fooled by the farce of the supposed opposition of political parties, which rather is a collaboration to legitimize each other and keep the parasitic class at expense of exploitation and slaughter of people.



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[-] 2 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 5 years ago

MIC could care less who is in the presidency, as history shows us.

Romney is Bob Dole 2.0 A hapless soul, a total goofball, a guy who is completely out of touch with reality.

Does anyone really think the Christian right would nominate a Mormon? haha. Come on guys, wake up.

[-] 1 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 5 years ago

The Christian right definitely will elect a Mormon. I am ashamed to say I have relatives who actually believe he is a muslim.

[-] 1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 5 years ago

I think that a nice chunk will, but it will discourage enough of them that it will be a reasonable excuse as to why Romney lost. Instead of the fact he is totally out of touch and not a very good politician.

Plus, the religion aspect is always a great wedge issue, give them all something to debate for a while. Im guessing we are going to hear lots of talk on Romney's faith and the religious rights after he loses.

Ya, Ive heard plenty of people claim Obama is a muslim. Like he stated, whoever gave him his middle name certainly didnt want him to run for president haha. the fact that his past is pretty cloudy certainly allows for a lot of theories.

[-] 0 points by Brython (-146) 5 years ago

They wouldn't nominate him, no, but they would vote for him.

The real question is whether we are to permit pluralism to survive. In my opinion we should not be doing this horizontal bop, voting left or right, but rather voting by consensus, up or down: Roe versus Wade, yay or nay? Gay, yay or nay? Oil, yay or nay?

None of these issues require four or more years of public debate in which most will ultimately be ignored anyway. And we can't continue to lock ourselves in four year blocks of impasse in the hopes of a savior; we can't continue to permit parties to create meaningless issues that paralyze parties in conflict.

As long as we vote horizontally this nation will never move forward. In my mind we must de-power pluralism in favor of consensus. And the fairest way to do that is to empower people regionally in empowering the state.

Legislation in the form of regulation attracts millions, even billions, to political parties in the form of campaign contributions with but one intent and that is to circumvent to profit; it's really only successful in terms of financing their machine.

My feeling in the upcoming election is that most will vote up or down to move this nation forward; we're tired of all this mindless banter. And it's destroyed OWS which appears to possess some relative economic intelligence but a complete ignorance of human behavior and desire.

[-] 3 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 5 years ago

Thats is why everyone SHOULD know DC is a total scam, because they are always "crafting" legislation. the solutions are simple. They should have them loaded and ready to go.

After 08, there should have been a slew of them getting voted on. One after another. Instead they told the people to fuck off.

[-] 1 points by ThomasJefferson (10) 5 years ago

What is the main human desire? Naturally the economic security. But at what level? How food security or to be able to squander the money? That is determined by the prototype gives us the example of our leaders. What better opportunity to rationalize their expenses than when they are about to be elected?

While it is not achieved condition candidates to consensus for decisions and management of public resources to vote for them, the vote will remain horizontal and the crisis will be worse.

Let the power of pluralism in favor of consensus, enabling people in local, state and national empowerment. What better opportunity than an electoral process?

[-] -1 points by ThomasJefferson (10) 5 years ago

I see that the only thing you care is that Romney will not be president, of which you are very trustful.

But as supposed promoter of world revolution, what should you care now is that electoral processes are opportunities for civil society exercising democracy in its broadest meaning, without reducing it to the single issue of a secret ballot, but publishing their demands through NGOs and social movements, conditioning to the candidates to give tangible proof of their commitment to fulfill this demands to vote for them, on the understanding that the essence of an electoral process will not be choice rulers, but the agreement to collaborate with them on the satisfaction of social demands in a broad democratic exercise.

And the obvious demand should be to start a real improvement of the economy from government spending.