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Forum Post: It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

Posted 13 years ago on Oct. 14, 2011, 4:40 p.m. EST by ChristianSocialist (7)
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Matthew 19

"23 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven.

24 And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God."

http://carm.org/kjv/Matt/matt_19.htm

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[-] 4 points by ChristianSocialist (7) 13 years ago

And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves, (13) And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves. (Matthew 21:12-13)

What should we think about the "moneychangers" from Wall Street?

[-] 2 points by seaglass (671) from Brigantine, NJ 13 years ago

I hear Lockheed Martin has a US Gov't contract to produce huge needles just so they can make it to heaven as well.

[-] 2 points by patriot4change (818) 13 years ago

Interesting parable, yes. Did you know that historians have found that the proverbial "eye of a needle" was actually in reference to the outer perimeter entrance to Jerusalem-- which they called "The Eye of the Needle". It was an opening in the wall on the north entrance if I'm not mistaken.

[-] 1 points by ChristianSocialist (7) 13 years ago

Did you know that it's a hoax? The outer perimeter entrance existed during the Middle Ages, but not during the time when Jesus lived.

[-] 1 points by patriot4change (818) 13 years ago

That's why I asked. I saw a History Channel account on the subject. It made sense, but I did not research the matter myself. In the documentary, they actually depicted Jesus going through the "eye of the needle" entrance on his donkey. I guess that wasn't as accurate as it seemed, eh?

[-] 1 points by Chimptastic (67) 13 years ago

Interesting, I didn't know that was a hoax. I'll have to check that out.

[-] 1 points by ChristianSocialist (7) 13 years ago

The rich folks of the world created this hoax many centuries ago, to justify their greed.

[-] 1 points by thebeastchasingitstail (1912) 13 years ago

James 2:14-26 New International Version (NIV)

Faith without works (deeds) is dead.

14 What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save them?

15 Suppose a brother or a sister is without clothes and daily food.

16 If one of you says to them, “Go in peace; keep warm and well fed,” but does nothing about their physical needs, what good is it?

17 In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead.

18 But someone will say, “You have faith; I have deeds.”

Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by my deeds.

19 You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that—and shudder.

[-] 1 points by MechanicalMoney (208) 13 years ago

The problem is on the Earth, not after death...

[-] 1 points by PlasmaStorm (242) 13 years ago

ChristianSocialist,

Do you recognize that these people, these protesters, must accept Jesus Christ as their personal savior?

Which of them has done so?

[-] 1 points by stonemadeflesh (29) 13 years ago

Was Jesus a socialist?

http://youtu.be/JTNvKSrdm_s

[-] 1 points by bangbang (61) 13 years ago

It is the Christians Anarchist who want to overthrow the government?

[-] 2 points by TIOUAISE (2526) 13 years ago

Jesus CONSISTENTLY condemned "the ways of the World" - whether Roman, Jewish or other - and announced the coming of the Kingdom of God.

Isn't that precisely what this Worldwide Movement for Social Justice is about?

Jesus was no anarchist, he wanted to replace the ESTABLISHED DIS-ORDER by TRUE ORDER, founded on Justice, Compassion and Love.

If you want to talk about anarchy, the REAL, savage anarchists here in America are those criminal banksters and politicians which I dub "REALLY WELL ORGANIZED CRIME".

[-] 1 points by TIOUAISE (2526) 13 years ago

Nearly 2000 years ago, Mary seem to prophesy a kind of Arab Spring or worldwide revolution in these terms:

My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord,

my spirit rejoices in God my Saviour (...)

He has shown strength with his arm

and has scattered the proud in their conceit,

Casting down the mighty from their thrones

and lifting up the lowly.

He has filled the hungry with good things

and sent the rich away empty." (Luke 1)

[-] 0 points by MechanicalMoney (208) 13 years ago

No matter whats happens after...Speaking in the name of is lying !

The problem is when we are living now, not after death...

[-] -1 points by Danimal98367 (188) from Port Orchard, WA 13 years ago

25 - Therefore, thou shalt petition Ceaser to enact higher taxes on all rich men for redistribution to them what are indebted to the Universities that teach I am but an out-dated fable.

[-] -1 points by atki4564 (1259) from Lake Placid, FL 13 years ago

Exactly, every word Christ said MUST be implemented, especially given the hidden socioeconomic mathematics underlying his parables (or riddles), but many more people will come to your side when you are proactive (for “new” Business & Government solutions), instead of reactive (against “old” Business & Government solutions), which is why what we most immediately need is a comprehensive “new” strategy that implements all our various socioeconomic demands at the same time, regardless of party, and although I'm all in favor of taking down today's ineffective and inefficient Top 10% Management System of Business & Government, there's only one way to do it – by fighting bankers as bankers ourselves; that is, using a Focused Direct Democracy organized according to our current Occupations & Generations. Consequently, I have posted a 1-page Summary of the Strategically Weighted Policies, Organizational Operating Structures, and Tactical Investment Procedures necessary to do this at:

http://getsatisfaction.com/americanselect/topics/on_strategic_legal_policy_organizational_operational_structures_tactical_investment_procedures

Join

http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/StrategicInternationalSystems/

because we need 100,000 “support clicks” at AmericansElect.org to support a Presidential Candidate -- such as any given political opportunist you'd like to draft -- in support of the above bank-focused platform.

Most importantly, remember, as cited in the first link above, that as Bank Owner-Voters in your 1 of 48 "new" Business Investment Groups (or "new" Congressional Committees) you become the "new" Congress replacing the "old" Congress according to your current Occupation & Generation, called a Focused Direct Democracy.

Therefore, any Candidate (or Leader) therein, regardless of party, is a straw man, a puppet; it's the STRATEGY – the sequence of steps – that the people organize themselves under, in Military Internet Formation of their Individual Purchasing & Group Investment Power, that's important. Sequence is key.

Why? Because there are Natural Social Laws – in mathematical sequence – that are just like Natural Physical Laws, such as the Law of Gravity. You must follow those Natural Social Laws or the result will be Injustice, War, etc.

The FIRST step in Natural Social Law is to CONTROL the Banks as Bank Owner-Voters. If you do not, you will inevitably be UNJUSTLY EXPLOITED by the Top 10% Management Group of Business & Government who have a Legitimate Profit Motive, just like you, to do so.

Consequently, you have no choice but to become Candidates (or Leaders) yourselves as Bank Owner-Voters according to your current Occupation & Generation.

So please JOIN the 2nd link, so we can make our support clicks at AmericansElect.org when called for by e-mail from the group in the 2nd link, and then you will see and feel how your goals can be accomplished within the strategy of the 1st link as a “new” Candidate (or Leader) of your Occupation & Generation.