Forum Post: Is this place getting more bizarre?
Posted 12 years ago on Aug. 31, 2012, 11:46 a.m. EST by Builder
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Or is it just me?
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Did you see niphtrique's post? The original was like some boring civics class on how to fix the government, so I flamed back on how we need to get in the streets.
And then.... Twilight zone music.....do dee do dee do dee....he comes back , totally off the deep end, 9/11 conspiracies tied to the matrix and Jesus marrying God. Whaddya think? Time for us to get a life and leave this place to the loonies?
I was a bit pissed off with your reply, especially the "who do you think you are" part. That is not a productive way of working, so I showed you who I am.
You can verify the facts I have mentioned. You can doubt my explanation of those facts. However, those facts, even without any explanation, remain extremely bizarre.
Link to the Universe is a virtual reality:
http://www.naturalmoney.org/coincidents.html
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To be clear, when we're in the streets, seriously, in numbers, and totally fed up with the system's bullshit elections, courts, laws, etc. - this is what will happen:
A)The system will forget its own rules and totally smash us. B)The system will make concessions to our demands to make sure civil order is maintained, that our havoc doesn't reemerge. C) The system will not admit that its concessions are concessions. Instead, it will give credit to some great reforming politician.
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I would pick number 3. Without the numbers, you never get to number 4.
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No man. Jesus marrying God?
You gotta run with that on the front page.
Might neva happen again, dude.
It is great to see that I have been able to make this place a bit more bizarre.
Link to God is a woman and Jesus was Her husband
http://www.naturalmoney.org/investigations.html
It should be front page news, even though it happened nearly 2,000 years ago, and maybe it will be front page news some day.
lol at the "evidence" section
Evidence is not proof. There is evidence supporting the theory. The evidence for this is not abundant, otherwise people would have figured it out already. It is only possible to guess this if God Herself points it out to you.
There so much evidence that the Gospel has been modified that it is proven beyond reasonable doubt. For example, the last chapter of the Gospel of John appears to be added later to suggest that the Beloved Disciple was John as the previous chapter already has closing lines (John 20:30-31).
Only a few dare to call it a forgery:
"According to leading biblical scholar Bart Ehrman, many of his contemporaries have it wrong when it comes to the Bible. Instead of calling biblical forgeries what they are—lies—they often fall back on safer scholarly terms, stopping just short of the word “forgery.”
Ehrman, however, is not afraid of breaking rank with his fellow scholars and speaking the truth. In his new book, Forged: Writing in the name of God—Why the Bible’s Authors Are Not Who We Think They Are (HarperOne; April 2011), the New York Times bestselling author debunks many popular myths about the Bible’s forged books and letters, including the idea that “writing in the name of another” was a common, accepted practice in antiquity. According to Ehrman, forgery was just as disgraceful then as it is today."
http://www.prweb.com/releases/Erhman/Forged/prweb8219892.htm
So why did they rewrite the Gospel? So why is the marriage between Mary Magdalene and Jesus removed from the texts? I am the only one that has a reasonable answer on those questions. Not only do I have this answer, I also have posted evidence for this universe being a virtual reality and we being programmed simulations of humans.
the bible is not evidence. that'd be like me siting JK Rowling
obviously we have different belief levels. You believe a book written thousands of years ago by some guys is fact. I do not.
We'll have to agree to disagree. I am not a religious person and I do not believe any religion in the world is accurate.
You assume that The Bible is on the same level as fiction. This is an assumption. At least I can prove beyond reasonable doubt that this universe is a virtual reality or a simulation:
http://www.naturalmoney.org/coincidents.html
People who, after reading this, and investigating the evidence, still conclude otherwise, prefer to cling to religious or so called scientific dogma instead of accepting reality as it is.
The burden of proof is on you to show evidence that the Bible is not a work of fiction. Unless evidence is provided that it is not, then we should assume that is it just like I assume dragons and fairies don't exist.
The fact that this world could be a simulation has nothing to do with the Bible. You're pulling a red herring there. And, even if there is some evidence that we are living in a simulation, there is still no conclusive proof and the matter is very much still under debate in the world of science. It's one theory amongst many others.
Here good reads on the matter:
http://lesswrong.com/lw/9lq/evidence_for_simulation/
http://www.simulation-argument.com/
There are many other articles of this type, and you should also look for criticism of this theory and arguments against it, there are also a lot of those.
Scientists can debate endlessly. But sometimes you have to work with available evidence and make the best of it. Furthermore I have never wanted to prove that The Bible is not a work of fiction. I just assume it just like TrevorMnemonic assumes that that it is fiction. People can simply read and draw their own conclusions like you do. I have no problem with that.
That's the thing though, your positions are not equal. TrevorMnemonic is acting logically when he demands evidence to show that the Bible is not fiction because the people who claim it isn't are the ones that bear the burden of proof. It's important to realize that.
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Jesus might have existed, and might have been a great mean. But, that was 2000 years ago. It's time to talk about people that live today who can solve problems that exist today. The world has changed a lot since Jesus, Leviticus, and friends.
I agree entirely with your comment, especially the last paragraph which makes a whole lot of sense.
This is the first paragraph in your link:
Anytime someone claims an absolute truth in a field that is only emergent and only one theory amongst many others and in which many scholars provide various arguments, we should be extremely wary. A serious researcher would simply not say that "We are programmed simulations of humans in a holographic virtual reality." Serious scientists and scholars don't make claims of this type. This sounds very dubious indeed.
There are serious papers on the simulation argument, but this isn't one of them.
Everybody is free to have a theory and bring up evidence. Furthermore this document is not a paper on the simulation argument. I am not a scientist or a scholar. Everybody can read the paper and draw his or her own conclusions. It is clearly written and the evidence is significant.
I remember my Dad talking about another book written by Jesus' brother James the Just, that explains a lot of what you are saying here.
It was destroyed for the reasons you mention. I was pretty young at the time, but I still remember it now.
James 1:18: He chose to give us birth through the word of truth, that we might be a kind of firstfruits of all he created.
He chose to give us birth? It seems obvious what has happened. Christians are also considered to be children of God and born of God (John 1:12-13). There probably was a loophole in the Greek language that preserved "give birth" in the texts. Because this universe is a programmed virtual reality, this was intended by God so there was still some evidence of the gender changes.
I'm not at all well-researched when it comes to religions, but I do know that several very successful cultures are matriarchal.
It would not surprise me in the least to find out that men destroyed information that belittled their supposed stature. The destruction of the library in Alexandria was probably the worst act of vandalism in history, and various religions over the years have destroyed much more information than they've created.
Today we are mostly convinced that Islam is the religion of a backward desert-cave people. Truth is, the Ottoman empire is still the largest and wealthiest and most influential of all the empires in history.
Surprising how easily a little propaganda can turn things around in the minds of the many.
As far as I can see, the only texts that have been intentionally edited in the Old Testament, are Genesis 2 and 3. God always presented Herself as gender neutral defaulting to He. It was always the intention of God to remain anonymous. So it was not a little propaganda that did the job.
Adam, Abraham and Mohammed never knew that God is a woman and that they were Her husband. I think Jesus and his closest followers were the only people who ever have known this. Probably the texts have been modified for the first time shortly after Mary Magdalene and Jesus died and before they were copied.
I was hearing that on TripleJ radio in OZ the other day. The concept is actually more acceptable than the patriarchal one. Run with it.
I have to run with it.
Four years ago I made a startling discovery. Natural Money can create a financial system that is more efficient and without crisis. The Natural Financial System will therefore replace the current financial system by competition soon after it comes into existence.
Shortly after this, a woman I have met many years ago, and seemed to be interfering with my life ever since, by making accidents and coincidences happen from time to time that pointed at Her scheming them, appeared to have a message for me. Based on the discovery and the accompanying events I guessed that She is God. Money with a holding fee is a concept from The Bible because money with a holding fee was first introduced when Joseph was viceroy of the Egyptians, while The Bible and The Quran have numerous passages that condemn charging interest on money. The holding fee and a ban on interest are the main components of Natural Money.
The question is: Did God invent Natural Money?
http://www.naturalmoney.org/integration.html
The year 2012 is considered to be the End of Times by many people because of the Mayan prophecy so I guessed that I had some time to prepare.
After the events, I have worked on a set of solutions for some major issues we have. After nearly four years of work I came up with the following:
Based on the evidence at my disposal (most of which is on the website), this seems to be the Second Coming. I could be wrong, but I have investigated every possible angle for the last four years, and I could not find anything of substance that proved me wrong. So I have to run with it as hard as I can because there seems to be no other choice.
I came to the conclusion that I am not fit to become a spiritual or a political leader because of lack of ambition. I also do not have the right qualities for that. I never did anything in management or politics because I am well aware of my limitations as a person. Furthermore I am a rational thinking person and not spiritual minded. However I should be able to coach the process of change towards a better world. Therefore I have worked on those plans to help people govern themselves in harmony with nature and others.
I guess that, because this universe is a virtual reality, much of what you have read in The Bible is less relevant today. The Bible was written by people with the knowledge of the people living at that time. We have to reevaluate The Bible with the knowledge we have now. Especially, many people give much attention to the Book of Revelation, while it was just a vision of a monk around 180 AD that has much in common with a trip on LSD.
The plans are now near completion (at least the part I could work on without others) and the set of plans is comprehensive (they cover all relevant issues I could think of). So if you really want a Revolution then I guess there is a good chance we can make it happen.
We need to have One Plan where most people can agree on. I think this is possible because nearly everybody here wants to get rid of the oligarchy. We need to have a power that overturn the current system. Natural Money can do that because it is more efficient and it seems that God wants it to happen. But is can only happen if people are willing to rally behind this plan. It seems a Mission Impossible but only the future will tell.
Bedtime for me. I'll look into it tommorrow.
Cheers.
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D'oh. I'm always running late.
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There are bizarre users like Proteus. He gets angry when people discuss his ideas on his posting. I thought that's what comments were for... meh...