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Forum Post: Is There Really An Honest Way To Make A Buck Anymore?

Posted 12 years ago on Dec. 8, 2011, 2:19 a.m. EST by eyeofthetiger (304)
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it's funny all the jobs I look for only pay $7 an hour that won't even get bills paid and second jobs all want you to quit your first job cause they want full time people so there is really no Real jobs out there I feel like Johnny Paycheck did and tell my boss Take This Job And Shove It

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[-] 2 points by nichole (525) 12 years ago

Only fools are making an honest living these days ... still buying into the Protestant work ethic, ha!!! Honest hard work alone leads to extinction in our current economic climate.

[-] 2 points by eyeofthetiger (304) 12 years ago

Wow!! I am so glad you wrote me and said this It is True for example talked to my parents tonight they are definitely Old Protestant Midwest Heartland work ethic I say Dad I am making $200 a week He says get 6 jobs Like I did Work like a dog and drop dead It's as if I should just have no life and die working for an unappreciative and blood sucking employer My Dad is 76 He worked in a time when there was honest work and when you did work 60 hours a week you got paid plus He got raises bonuses health ins vacation pay sick leave pay over time seniority So Yea sure back in 1965 you did Great But today there are no Benefits I get None When I ask for a raise I am told my raise is getting to keep my job Back then there were Unions My Dad got Great Benefits from being with the Union But he does'nt understand today this is all over with So he thinks I should work the same as he did But he does'nt get it the call ended with another argument and a hang up Typical Old School attitudes

[-] 2 points by nichole (525) 12 years ago

Oh yeah, we're a bunch of materialistic kids wanting everything, out for entitlements. No!!! Work does not pay. I feel like a goddamn fool working the 40+ for subsistence-level wages. Sure couldn't support a family ... need a roommate. The Protties still believe in individual salvation and that God himself dictates wages -- why question CEO pay?, that's just the way it is -- and that we should be working more, which is foolish when you think about it because we have over-produced and that is why workers are worth nothing right now. We should be chilling, actually, not looking for another job that isn't available.

[-] 0 points by eyeofthetiger (304) 12 years ago

yea it's that way I hate people who have it made and ridicule one's who are less fortunate I treat everyone with respect and I expect the same back if I don;t get that then I move on Unfortunately respect is given on how much money one has I think it's a sick selfish attitude If everyone treated the people they met with respect and did'nt screw over each other we all would be prosperous and have more money than we would know what to do with my parents are the only exception that I take crap from actually it's my Dad my Mom's cool cause she listens and is educated my Dad would rather rant and stomp his feet I am not that way

[-] 1 points by jomojo (562) 12 years ago

"Pull yourself up by your bootstraps" just shoot me. I'm old but I haven't forgotten the phrases that old timers used to prove they were still living in the past. They used to be able to party on a dollar. They don't understand that the working class can't compete with slave labor. The worst jobs on earth must belong to the one's whose bonuses come from their schemes to replace American workers. (Shame on YOU)

[-] 1 points by exmachina (94) 12 years ago

The best advice I ever received from my father was "never rely on a job". I did up some simple cheap fliers, wrote on them that I specialize in doing basic handyman type work around the house including gardening, pool cleaning, assisting with computers, cables etc. also added my age and photo so people could see that I'm a only a kid. I have never looked back to be honest. I had a few fill in jobs while travelling but for the most part I have always been self-employed. So there it is. You can still work hard and make a living with an LLC.

[-] 1 points by TheScreamingHead (239) 12 years ago

Gotta be a constant promoter to make it these days.

http://alturl.com/xr5po

[-] 1 points by sato (148) 12 years ago

There are honest ways but the opportunities are rarer for most of us.

[-] 1 points by genanmer (822) 12 years ago

Machines are taking over.

Adapt or enslave yourself to the rat race for money

http://www.thevenusproject.com

[-] 2 points by nichole (525) 12 years ago

Machines cannot rebuild our infrastructure without human labor. Machines cannot educate and care for our children, or provide assistance for our growing elderly population. There is MUCH that NEEDS to be done to secure a healthy, prosperous future on American soil, problem is that it won't get done because there is no money flowing in these directions. No profit to be had. I'd gladly devote 60+ hours a week teaching children, providing companionship for the elderly, and so on. 60 hours times $8 only equals $480 before taxes and that is not enough for me to live as a single woman.

[-] 1 points by genanmer (822) 12 years ago

There are literally 100s of technologies available which would provide a healthy prosperous future for Americans if money didn't restrict people from allocating available resources to these projects. Our country mobilizes for war without giving two thoughts about whether we have enough money.

Never has our country mobilized for peace. We've had the resources, the technologies, and the capacities to create abundance for over a century. Only now automation is becoming so prevalent that the job sectors can't create new profitable sectors to employ people. (without destroying the current market)

Sustainability, durability, and efficiency are enemies of the monetary-market system which is why a full mobilization for efficient green technologies have been avoided by the government, as have preventative medicine, open source education(khan academy), automated labor, sustainable agriculture, water extraction, and easily accessible energy (wireless).

Money is a tool that must be allowed to grow obsolete if a post-scarcity society is to ever be created.

[-] 2 points by nichole (525) 12 years ago

Beautifully-stated, thank you for the reply.

[-] 1 points by SGSling (104) 12 years ago

I mean yeah but its a bit of luck and learning the in-demand trades. I see jobs I am qualified for salaried at the equivalent at 85$+ per hour.

[-] 1 points by jomojo (562) 12 years ago

Does your work include recruiting from overseas? Every worker can be replaced, even service jobs, if enough immigrants are "needed". Good luck with yours, since it might disappear.

[-] 1 points by SGSling (104) 12 years ago

Actually, my work is very technical and Iwas outsourced twice before I decided to stop being a victim, took a 50% paycut and worked in Taiwan/China. The pay sucked for going abroad but the salary was outstanding and I lived very comfortably. I busted my ass off and now I have a high paying job in the region.

My job will never disappear, only change places.

[-] 0 points by Kevabe (81) 12 years ago

It's called, earn a degree that is not in Art. Go out get a job that prepares you with experience that leads into a better job. Eventually you work up the ladder and so does your salary.

[-] 2 points by sato (148) 12 years ago

I have a degree in tech. Not even a single interview in 6 months. You don't know anything.