Forum Post: Is there OWS and religion???
Posted 12 years ago on Dec. 9, 2011, 10:50 p.m. EST by rachel1234
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Does religion play a major part in OWS? If not, is it still present?
that is a personal matter.
The Occupy Movement is not organized around a set of spiritual principles, and religion is not a principle motivating factor.
It's primary motivation is the result of corruption, there is a train of it that has resulted in the complete systemic failure of economic theory and practice in the United States.
From the University, to the Savings Banks, Investment Banks, Regulatory Authority, Advisory Committees to both Executive and to Legislative branches of government, Lobbying Firms, and right back to the Universities - there is a parade of faces, shifting seats on the Titanic.
It's quite stunning.
Like many have said, OWS is not a religious movement, but I think many of the basic moral tenets of a variety of religions are compatible with the OWS message.
http://occupywallst.org/forum/make-a-stand-join-the-clan/
The Revolution starts here!
The scripture "treat others as you would have them treat you" would be an appropriate message to send wall street.
Religion, in its basic definition, is a collection of ideas when, taken as a whole, forms a belief system. It may or may not have anything at all to do with a deity or spirituality. To some such as Magda Goebbels, wife of Joseph Goebbels, Propaganda Minister for Adolf Hitler's Germany, Nazism was a religion which she approached with such zeal and devotion that, when it was clear that the war was lost and Hitler had decided to commit suicide, she, in turn, drugged her five children and then killed them all with cyanide capsules before having her husband kill her, then himself.
In that respect, OWS -- as anything else -- CAN be a religion, but what does that matter? It is a personal and individual thing and that is where it should be left.
I don't see how or why the two should be related as a movement. OWS is a political/social movement, not overall a religious one.
My question is, why does religion have to come into everything? Why are we not able to separate the two and keep religion a private, intimate relationship between ourselves and whatever creator we accept (or none at all), and keep the political and social issues in their own arena?
This question is a distraction, seems to me. What Occupy, at bottom, is attempting to address in many and various ways, where effective and meaningful, is more properly the issue of Corruption and the Collusion of powerful interests set over-against the General Welfare of The People of the World (speaking most broadly as Corporatism is a worldwide epidemic of paracitical, predatorial aggression). We shouldn't be spending time answering questions of no direct relevance to this principle concern, even if related in a philosophically oblique manner. Forget about such conversations, as we can sum up the matter by characterizing the core motivation of Occupy as Humane Values universally applicable to the Human Family.
OWS is a religion in itself, OWS is Orwellian, an thus the non-existent leaders of OWS itself are Supreme. There is no Supreme-Being above these non-existent leaders.
In appealing to all 99% of the USA, there can be no religion, other than the religion of 'consensus'. Our OrwellianOWS tells us what the consensus is.
OWS is controlled by people who like to manipulate religious people, but that's because its all part of the status-quo.
POST OrwellianOWS there will be no conventional notion of GOD, only the notion that the 1% who control OWS are pampered by the 99%.
We are the Borg, you will be assimilated, resistance is futile.
If I have a preference I would like to be assimilated by Seven of Nine. Thank you :D
I've met some buddhist here and there.
I think religion is good and all, but I don't like how some people just submit to it and let the religious leaders dictate their beliefs.
Occupy Wall St is not a religion. Please site one way in which it is. Orwellianism is also not a religion. If religion was thrown into the mix, it needs to be taken out. This isn't about that, and neither was this country when it was started. It was the work of greedy politicians who knew that if they acted christian, they would get the majority(as christians are the majority, even among the minority) vote. Adding that into the mix would start things back to when this whole thing started
Nope. Whose religion?
Whoism (The religion of all the Whos in Whoville). Sorry, but I couldn't resist. It's been a long week.
OWS is a bunch of liberal rich white people who claim tolerance of religion as long as it's not Christian. Liberals by their very nature have to hate white Christians (which the majority of them were raised that way and it probably has more to do with anger with their parents than anything else.)
I am constantly amazed that those, like you, who openly profess disdain for the people on this site continue to come here. I can only conclude that your purpose is either masochistic or that you seek to cause trouble, make the members here angry, or in some way try to humiliate them for your own entertainment.
Whatever your motivation, I fear you have neither the talent nor the skill to accomplish it.