Forum Post: is the war on drugs a hoax?
Posted 12 years ago on Dec. 1, 2011, 8:09 a.m. EST by roscoesdad27
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from Aberdeen, MD
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEXtNM7Lf0o&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Despite an estimated 1 trillion $ cost to the overburdened American tax payer in the last 10 years the price of drugs are down despite the purity being up and in the end usage is unaffected.
Each year the United States spends $350 billion fighting a perpetual war designed to funnel money to the corporate owned prisons, their investors and safe keepers...they have easily bought off congress to keep it going.
"Nothing is more destructive of respect for the government and the law of the land than passing laws which cannot be enforced. It is an open secret that the dangerous increase of crime in this country is closely connected with this." # Albert Einstein, on U.S. alcohol prohibition
Since 2006 the number of people killed as a result of the Mexican drug war is 22,743. Since 2003 the number of coalition soldiers killed in the Iraq war is 4720. Both of these numbers pale DRAMATICALLY to the almost genocide like totals that resulted from the governmental unleashing of crack into the American cities and heroin before that.
The u.s. has 5% of the worlds population....and 25% of the worlds prisoners making a mockery of our "land of the free" slogan.
The u.s. has higher levels of marijuana use than the Netherlands, where its legal!
In 2001 Portugal decriminalized all drugs and focused anti drug efforts on public health and community safety. Since then the number of people in drug treatment has doubled, HIV rates among users are down, teenage drug use is down and marijuana rates are among the lowest in Europe.
RON PA UL FOR PRESIDENT! WHAT!
not a hoax-
but think of all the private prisons making money on this
all of the police paid to run after joints
all of the American dollars shipped out of the country
all of the Mexican murders
all of the criminals it creates all of the victims it creates
legalize marijuana like alchohol
legalize other drugs by prescription
so I wrote a few dozen words here - books have been written on the subject
Ron Pa ul for president!
ron would make drugs legal and abortions and the fda and the epa illegal
yes i know he did not say this but he could: "If you dont like breathing the arsenic my plant spews into the air - move!"
Just like the MIC wants endless war, the US Criminal justice system makes hundreds of billions off prisons, supplies, courts, judges, police, lawyers, etc. De criminalizing substances would cause huge money losses for them. That's why they want it. Also, public availability of drugs like Scandanavia will defund Afghanistan terrorists, and we can't have that.
Your numbers of dead in the war on drugs are disturbingly low.
Total killed: 45,584 (December 2006–October 2011)20
the numbers of Mexican dead are over ten times the numbers of Americans who died in Iraq over a ten year span - that is in half the time. At this rate, the casualty numbers look much more like the numbers of Iraqi dead over ten years of war.
Is it really a war? Those numbers would seem to indicate so.
Is it a war where the U.S. government has been consistent in terms of its efforts?
No. Had it been, the issue of border security would have been an issue long, long before September 11, 2001.
That said, we will not make Lon Rauls our campaign action of choice. I mean, you can, if you want.
I won't.
I think that the should be legalized and a larger attempt made at education. Someone recently told me that teenage pregnancy can be avoided with more education and I think that applies here wonderfully
If drugs become allowed all around the world and priced and levied by the governments and sold similar to alcohol and tobacco, and if the shops keep them and prevent its theft similar to alcohol, cigarettes, and any other goods, then that will reduces many plights of classified drugs to plights attributed to abuse of alcohol and smoking cigarettes. We know there are crimes around the alcohol and cigarettes but their nature is drastically different. An alcoholic person is not a tool in the hands of international gangs. We have counterfeited moneys, outfits, alcohol and cigarettes. That does not make their usage prohibited. Then they should be encountered and dealt like alcohol and tobacco. Some say if classified drugs are sold in a shop then poorer addicted will attack to take it. There are many items in a shop that poor is in dire need of them but they do not attack. It remains that if some one uses a drug he never can detach. I believe this is not correct. For example, one who is non-smoker cannot be enticed to smoke as much people around tempt him. Some followers of certain religions never drink even if all their friends drink. Opium and hashish were used for centuries as very known drugs with the ecstasy effects of them known for witch doctors, medieval doctors and apothecaries for centuries and was freely available in societies with no alternative pain-killers but people were not addicted until 19th centuries. Some believe its addiction was due to some purposeful planning of British Empire in certain countries to opiate their population.
well, from the look of my petty criminal record, i'd say there is no hoax being perpetuated on my end. but i've read articles that claim that the illegality of drugs is what keeps the prices low. the same logic that states monopolies are more efficient ways of production. the incarceration and epidemics are just unintended consequences of trying to regulate morality.
UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES???...lol...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5b6kf5PIzX4&feature=youtube_gdata_player
and the results back up the claim http://www.drugwarfacts.org/cms/node/64
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxUQJbsdX0E&feature=youtube_gdata_player