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Forum Post: Is the problem really that we don't have enough teachers?

Posted 1 year ago on Oct. 25, 2012, 9:41 p.m. EST by Planetoid (-32) from Sacramento, CA
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"I watched the two candidates, chosen for us by our overlords, debate this past week and blather on endlessly about education being the key to our future success. As you can see from the charts above, government spending on education has remained constant at 14% of total government spending. In 1950, education spending totaled 3.3% of GDP. Today it totals 5.6% of GDP. We are spending $900 billion per year on education and making our kids dumber by the day. There are 50 million government controlled public school students and $600 billion is spent to educate them. One wonders where the $12,000 per student per year is being allocated, considering the lack of critical thinking skills, ability to write a comprehensible sentence or even the most basic math skills of the dullards that are being matriculated into society. The majority of that funding couldn’t possibly be wasted on administration, bureaucracy, union pension and healthcare benefits, and supporting the 5,000 control freaks at the Department of Education and their $100 billion budget."

"The rest of the $300 billion of government spending on education is being funneled towards luring young people into debt so they can attain a college degree that will land them a part time job at Ruby Tuesdays. The hundreds of billions in Federal student loans being syphoned from the taxpayers and handed out to unsuspecting dupes has resulted in $1 trillion of student loan debt outstanding, up from $600 billion in 2008 and $200 billion in 2000. This mountain of debt makes subprime mortgages look like a good risk. Since 2008, the Federal government has intentionally accelerated the disbursement of student loans in an effort to obfuscate the true level of unemployment in this country, as people enrolled in college are not considered unemployed. The looming bailout of this grand taxpayer theft will be colossal, as the delinquency rate of student loans not in their grace period already exceeds 18%. This should not come as a surprise, as even though 10 million more people have entered the working age population since 2008, there are 3 million less people employed than in 2008. Subsidizing kids who aren’t intelligent enough to graduate community college and shelling out billions to middle aged laid off blue collar dudes so they can get an on-line degree from the University of Phoenix or the myriad of other worthless blood sucking diploma mills, is a despicable waste of taxpayer money."

FROM:

http://www.theburningplatform.com/?p=41873

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[-] 6 points by agkaiser (1224) from Fredericksburg, TX 1 year ago

“'Leveling the Field,' Harper's October, 2011, is about for profit education. The University of Phoenix plays big in the article. Sixty percent drop out the first year. Twelve percent graduate. The bait and switch pitch on how long it takes and how much it costs is exposed. Tuition for nine months per year is presented but time to complete is based on year round classes. The hard sell stresses jobs and higher income as it prepares the victims to blame themselves when they fail. Most don't get the promised jobs and pay if they do graduate. There's constant reinforcement that failure is on the victims of the scam that puts profits first. Many default on student loans that have ballooned in a decade to over a trillion: up 1000%. The government is often the ultimate victim of their fraud. The perpetrators get to keep the taxpayers money.”

Excerpt from: How Does That Work? https://www.createspace.com/3852916

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 1 year ago

I need to deal with my student loan again

I hope they don't decide to add $5000 to it

[-] 2 points by agkaiser (1224) from Fredericksburg, TX 1 year ago

Moses knew how to deal with this shit. See Leviticus on Jubilee. Unlike Mesopotamian priests and kings 3500 years ago, our masters are fools!

[-] -3 points by Planetoid (-32) from Sacramento, CA 1 year ago

Is "for profit" education something new? I think not.

Is "hard sell" something new? I don't think so. People used to be able to say NO.

So the government is the "victim" of fraud? You mean the tax payer? It wasn't before. Why is that? Seems this mentality of backing every loan under the sun in the name of equality isn't working, just like it didn't work in the housing market. People used to have to put 20% down on a loan to get a mortgage. Then "fairness in housing" screwed everything up. Are you seeing a pattern yet?

What promised jobs? You'd have to be a fool to believe that. People need to have a filter to realize not everything they're told is true. Is this something new? Is the American population becoming more dumb, along with accepting less individual responsibility?

[-] 5 points by agkaiser (1224) from Fredericksburg, TX 1 year ago

For profit must cost more than we the people doing of by and for ourselves. Any fool should be able to see that privatization is a bust and capitalism is a scam! And that propaganda about gov backed loans and poor moochers being responsible for the housing bubble is absurd.

You need to check the reality:

Some non revisionist history from Yves Smith's Blog:

Wells Fargo Home Mortgage Joins with David Bach to Promote Shared Vision of the Lifelong Benefits of Homeownership to Millions of Americans

Best-Selling Author, Leading Retail Lender to Encourage People to Build Long-Term Financial Success through Homeownership

DES MOINES, Iowa – Oct. 28, 2005 – Wells Fargo Home Mortgage today announced a three-year agreement with financial coach David Bach, author of several best-selling books including No. 1 New York Times best-seller The Automatic Millionaire. The partnership is designed to increase the number of first-time, second-home and investment homebuyers and help homeowners best manage the equity in their home as an asset to achieve their long-term financial goals.

    What Makes The Automatic Millionaire Homeowner Essential:

    ■ You don’t need a big down payment to buy a home.

    ■ You don’t need great credit.

    ■ You should buy even if you have credit-card debt.

    ■ You can buy a second home even if you’re still paying off the first.

    ■ You can get started in any market-boom or bust.

    ■ It’s easier to be a landlord than you think.

Read more at http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2012/10/recovered-history-how-wall-street-funded-self-help-propaganda-greased-the-real-estate-bubble.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+NakedCapitalism+%28naked+capitalism%29#BsY2lvUywF1uEuCJ.99

[+] -4 points by Planetoid (-32) from Sacramento, CA 1 year ago

What privatization? 95% of loans are federally backed. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are GSE's (government sponsored entities). HUD IS the gubment. Hello? Hello?

Do you know what you're talking about? The only thing absurd is your debate.

Once again, ARE THESE THINGS YOU MENTIONED EARLIER NEW OR NOT???

[-] 3 points by agkaiser (1224) from Fredericksburg, TX 1 year ago

pffft! read the book and Wells Fargo ad. You spout shit and have no facts or support for the con propaganda. What are you doing here? Go fellate Rush. That something you might do well.

[-] 0 points by Planetoid (-32) from Sacramento, CA 1 year ago

The Wells Fargo ad is driven by government intervention and subsidies.

In case you haven't figured it out yet, government subsidizing bad behavior means government promotes bad behavior.

[-] 2 points by agkaiser (1224) from Fredericksburg, TX 1 year ago

DES MOINES, Iowa – Oct. 28, 2005 – Wells Fargo Home Mortgage today announced

That's 2005 and the cons are the one who set up the rules so their masters can profit making a mockery and a scam of programs that could do good if Repus were eliminated from power. It's you who hasn't figured out what's going on! The corporations that own the govenmenty and the revolving door between gov and board room are the problem.

The answer is nationalization of finance, banking, medicine, energy, mass transportation and communications. We the people need to take back our government and do of by and for ourselves an economy that can support the 90% who don't have theirs!

[-] -1 points by Planetoid (-32) from Sacramento, CA 1 year ago

Oh yes, centrally planned economies work so well ! It's been proven time and time again.

You idiot.

[-] 1 points by agkaiser (1224) from Fredericksburg, TX 1 year ago

Dupe of the central planners on Wall St. They certainly have failed repeatedly. About every twenty years since I can remember.

But local communities need to band together to operate our local economies, to support our lives with sustainable production that's not taxed by banks and investors. That means to hell with the capitalist masters and their fools like you! Capitalism has failed! We must do something - even if it's wrong. Working for ourselves instead of rich parasites is the way to go!

[-] 0 points by Planetoid (-32) from Sacramento, CA 1 year ago

Well then band together. Just STFU about it. No one cares.

signed, Capitalista

[-] 1 points by agkaiser (1224) from Fredericksburg, TX 1 year ago
  • Just STFU about it. No one cares. signed, Capitalista

We know who you are. And it's obvious that you care enough to make a fool of yourself over and over. So do yourself a favor and take your own advice.

  • "Just STFU about it."
[-] 2 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago

Gov subsidizing risk and private banks being able to insure themselves against loss. REgardless of what the cause is, 4 years after the housing bubble burst, JP Morgan and Wells, the number one and two holders of housing assests, just posted record profits this quarter. QE is going straight to their balance sheets. REwarding shitheads as usual.

[-] 0 points by Planetoid (-32) from Sacramento, CA 1 year ago

Yes, that's a bad thing.

[-] 2 points by agkaiser (1224) from Fredericksburg, TX 1 year ago

The gummit took over HUD after the privatized [in the 80s under Reagan] version got into trouble in 2008. Get your facts straight. Con propaganda has you all fucked up like Hogan's goat.

By the way, HUD in 08 had 40% of the 50 trillion in mortgages and 20% of the bad ones before King George II made them buy up his masters' subprimes. But the 'too big to fail' banks kept all the fees, points down payments and interest they'd already scammed. That's how private enterprise works. Only a moron refuses to face reality but keeps on spouting shit when their face is already plastered with it.

[-] 2 points by stevebol (1269) from Milwaukee, WI 1 year ago

I know I'm wasting my time saying this but the college level general education courses that go towards getting a degree should be free (tax-payer funded) for everyone. This can be done cheaply. This is the part of higher education that the right considers to be 'liberal'- English, science, sociology, psychology, math, etc... Full time status should also be reduced to 3 courses at 4 credit hours the way it used to be. The teachers with the most experience should teach these courses.

[-] -1 points by Planetoid (-32) from Sacramento, CA 1 year ago

Why should it be free? By what argument?

[-] 2 points by agkaiser (1224) from Fredericksburg, TX 1 year ago

It's for the benefit of the rentier masters. But thralls of Ayn Rand think the parasites at the top of the food chain are the good guys and the 90% who're the victims of the rich and their idiot ministers - we the people - are moochers. Go fellate!

[-] 0 points by Planetoid (-32) from Sacramento, CA 1 year ago

Oh, a self-identified burden on society.

Don't make it that easy for me, MOOCHER.

[-] 1 points by agkaiser (1224) from Fredericksburg, TX 1 year ago

Good night Irene! Fools like you should be identified at puberty and sterilized in defense of the human race.

[-] 1 points by stevebol (1269) from Milwaukee, WI 1 year ago

It's not really free, it's just an extension of high school. There's no reason why students should be forced to take Engish or algebra, buy a new textbook, wind up with some 20-something teacher and have to pay 1,000 bucks. It's a big rip-off.

[-] 0 points by Planetoid (-32) from Sacramento, CA 1 year ago

What are you talking about? When I went to school, I had to work part time and pay for it myself. Suddenly, no one should be forced to pay for anything?

Just give away everything for free? People should work for free? Is this the new progressivism? Incremental steps? Free cell phones? Free EBT meal tickets? Free condoms? Free housing? Free whatever?

WHY WORK AT ALL ??????????????????

[-] 1 points by stevebol (1269) from Milwaukee, WI 1 year ago

I said the GE part of college. If general education is considered different than courses that apply to a particular degree then why shouldn't there be a different financial structure applied to it? I'm suggesting a compromise.

[-] -1 points by Planetoid (-32) from Sacramento, CA 1 year ago

No compromise. You already get K-12 for free. Now it's time to stand on your own two feet for a change.

Try it. You might just like it. Independence, self-worth, a goal you set for yourself without others. It's really a good thing if you can get past the jealousy and self pity part of your persona.

[-] 1 points by stevebol (1269) from Milwaukee, WI 1 year ago

I did exactly what I suggested. I got a useless unaccredited A.O.S. degree a long time. I went back to school about 5 years ago and started at a major university. It was a rip-off so I went to community college, took most of my GE courses, a few other things and moved on. I was very lucky to be able to afford but it others aren't as fortunate. By the way, none of Freud's theories can be proven so I won't respond to your attempts to get personal. I learned that in psychology class.

[-] -1 points by Planetoid (-32) from Sacramento, CA 1 year ago

OH NOES111! I've been labeled with a minus 3 next to my name!

Should I be concerned?

[-] -1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago

I don't think that our society values education anymore. Everyone knows that the level of education sucks, yet community meetings on it are almost empty.

[-] -2 points by Planetoid (-32) from Sacramento, CA 1 year ago

Umm, how much education does it take to push a mouse around in a cube all day and create pretty power point charts that say nothing?

Did you get the latest memo on placing a cover sheet on the TPS reports?

[-] -1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago

haha, love that movie.

I was speaking more about the k-12 grades, I think that is where its the most in trouble.

[-] -3 points by TheRazor (-329) 1 year ago

No.