Forum Post: Is OWS declining or progresssing?
Posted 12 years ago on Dec. 16, 2011, 1:29 a.m. EST by australiano
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from Burleigh Waters, QLD
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Can anyone give me some facts and figures about the whole occupy movement? Is it progressing or declining. And please use referencing. Thank you.
Declining. How can it not when all you see about them on TV are a bunch of bums squatting in parks, turning them into ghettos?
If this forum is any indicator, the movement is very much alive. Incidentally, don't dismiss the utility of OWS, its has given an occupation to many who otherwise would be a danger to themselves. Some people do not need to be idle for extended periods. You can recognize these people by their prose, which almost always includes the words fuck, idiot, moron, or loser. As they say, they are most familiar with the things they are.
What does it mean to decline or progress? In the popularity polls it appears to have declined somewhat, but that seems to have leveled off. Levels of activism are much harder to quantify but are probably a much more accurate measure of exactly how vital a movement is.
In the absence of a visible pubic occupation it is much more difficult to influence passers by or in fact for passers by or even the actively interested to actually find the movement. On the other hand, if and when you do find the movement it appears to be bigger and more active than ever in the form of its various working groups.
I personally think that visible public occupations are not only the defining characteristic of the movement, they are also the most obvious way that the movement can draw in new recruits.
I don't know about facts and figures right now because this thing is amorphous enough that there are probably few or no internal records and a number of their objectives are difficult to explicitly quantify.
They need to start bringing civil lawsuits against the 1
You all are very good at finding problems but do nothing to help solve them and everybody is seeing this so you all are pretty much tanking
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGaRtqrlGy8
Here are the kings of inhumane values! They are the Lords of the Dirty Fucks!
http://occupywallst.org/forum/stop-the-evildoers/
The Revolution starts here!
If the movement was declining, you probably wouldn't see all the trolls here insisting that the movement is declining. They'd go back to beating their wives and abusing their children.
That's good, that's real good.
Support is declining:
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/11/poll-public-opinion-turning-against-occupy-wall-street.php
IMO, the majority of the public agrees with the concerns about the gross disparity of wealth and the control of government by the wealthy. I think people were very hopeful that this movement would produce something only to have those hopes dashed as the protestors ignored the fundamental issues and engaged in skirmishes about camping in parks and shutting down ports just to show that they could. The Congress has just passed, and the President is poised to sign, a bill allowing arrest and indefinite detention without trial, of American citizens, upon mere suspicion, and the Occupy movement is mostly silent.
It's declining. Without developing a base of voter power, the movement is dead. I do think OWS some small strides toward reciting the discussion, but w/o creating a voting bloc, it won't be taken serious.