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Forum Post: Iran Embassy staff withdrawn - signalling an attack?

Posted 10 years ago on Sept. 7, 2012, 1:58 p.m. EST by Karlin (350) from Nelson, BC
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Canada has suspended diplomatic relations with Iran and is expelling Iranian diplomats from Canada, and announced that the Canadian Embassy staff in Tehran would be withdrawn immediately for their own safety. Canada's federal government is also officially warning Canadians not to travel to Iran.

It could mean a lot of different things that Canada has done this, but such a move is typical just before a military attack on the nation in question [Iran].

I have been waiting for something to signal the beginning of a fundie Christian attempt to make their myths come true, a.k.a. catastrophy before the return of their mythical Jesus. [with apologies to believers here at OWS forums, but thats the way I see it].

Canada's PM Harper is one of those fundie Christians. He is a member in good standing with the Alliance Church in the province of Alberta.

A rather clumpsy move perhaps because it gives away the element of surprise.

So, what was the embassy closure, etc., based on? Canada's foreign minister cited this list of grievances:

  • Iran refuses to comply with the United Nations resolutions pertaining to its nuclear program

  • Increasing military assistance to the regime of Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad

  • Iran shelters and "materially supports" terrorist groups

  • Routine threats to the existence of the state of Israel and "racist anti-Semitic rhetoric and incitement to genocide," Baird said.

  • Repeated violations of the Vienna Convention which governs diplomatic relations between most countries of the world

  • Worst violators of human rights.

    Okay, NOT!! I could go through them one by one but in general if this Government, who represents at most 1/3rd of Canadian's views on the middle east, would only apply those same concerns to ISRAEL or even America, it would be more appropriate.

Who is the world's terrorist? - America and Israel Who violates human rights and violates the Vienna and Geneva conventions? - America and Israel. It is not Iran but rather ISRAEL who refuses to comply with international nuclear agreements, especially where disclosure is concerned [Israel has never admitted to having any nuclear weapons],

Please do not equate this illigitimate Canadian Conservative government with the average Canadian. This Harper govt, was elected under suspicious circumstances that are being investigated by Elections Canada.

PS - a recent poll asked Europeans their opinion on which nation was the biggest threat to middle east peace, and they overwhelmingly said "Israel", with Iran far down the list after even North Korea.




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[-] 2 points by ericweiss (575) 10 years ago

anti-semites in europe ??? impossible !!!

[-] -2 points by Lucky1 (-125) from Wray, CO 10 years ago

What does so called "anti semitism" have to do with this?

[-] 1 points by Karlin (350) from Nelson, BC 10 years ago

When Europeans say Israel is a bigger threat to world peace than Iran is, they are often labelled anti-semites. I think that is what ericweiss was hinting at.

[-] 1 points by ericweiss (575) 10 years ago

you said it

[-] 0 points by Lucky1 (-125) from Wray, CO 10 years ago

I see.

[-] 2 points by richardkentgates (3269) 10 years ago

It has always been about Iran. There will be no big war because of the massive civilian casualties it would bring. I suspect Syria is about to fall and once the rebellion moves close enough to Iran, it's going to keep on keep'n right along and picking up steam as it enters Iran. Why? Because the Iranians have far more reason to rebel than Syrians did. They just lack the capacity and Syrian rebels will give them that capacity. Watch and learn.

[-] 1 points by Karlin (350) from Nelson, BC 10 years ago

Ok, educate me - why do you thing Iranians have more to rebel against than Syrians? My impression is that Iranians live pretty comfortably whereas Syrians are living in constant fear of a brutal dictator, but please, inform me.

[-] -1 points by Mowat (164) 10 years ago

You are right. Iranians don't need to rebel against a government which is highly national and religious - exactly what most Iranian Shi’a are. On the other hand, Syria's government is a sectarian Alawite, anti-Sunni, dictatorship - exactly what the majority of the population is not.

[-] 1 points by ericweiss (575) 10 years ago

Iran will never launch an atomic attack on Israel
1 it would kill millions of Muslims
2 Israel would wipe Iran off of the map

[-] 1 points by ogoj11 (263) 10 years ago

I'm a little shocked at your naivete, Eric. Do you believe that wars are rational calculations? Take WW1, for instance, millions of men charging directly into machine guns and poison gas, a whole generation of the world's most civilized peoples destroyed. I happen to know there was an Eric Weiss in 1912, a hundred years ago, who said 'The crowned heads will never start a war. It would kill millions of their own people, and mean the end to their empires. What's different now? The ayatollahs are more sensible?

[-] 1 points by ericweiss (575) 10 years ago

the ayatollashs are afraid of Allah's wrath

[-] -1 points by Mowat (164) 10 years ago

Iran and Israel have one common goal: Control of all the 3 countries: Lebanon, Syria, and Iraq. That makes them adversaries. They hate each other but neither of them would commit suicide.

[-] 1 points by ericweiss (575) 10 years ago

And when did Israel make that claim?

[-] 2 points by Karlin (350) from Nelson, BC 10 years ago

If relations between two nations are getting strained it would be a good time to OPEN an embassy...

[-] 1 points by ogoj11 (263) 10 years ago

I don't agree with the demonization of Israel, but the warmongering against Iran must stop. It endangers us all.

On a barely related note: I happened to be reading a good book on the Cuban-Spanish-American War of 1895-1898. I had never realized that American entry into the war was based on the sinking of the Maine, an American battleship in Havana's harbor. The ship blew up due to an accident caused by bad design and careless management, but no one believed that such a disaster could have been accidental. Hence, war.

The brinksmanship on both sides endangers everyone. Every incident becomes a possible spark that could ignite the world. Let us all admit the obvious: Iran and Israel are both nasty regimes, but war is not the answer.

[-] 2 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 10 years ago

I don't now why the US has cornered 40% of the worlds weapons market

[-] 2 points by ogoj11 (263) 10 years ago

I love your consistent anti-militarism, Matt. The whole issue is something I wish Occupy could do more with. This is one area where the dems are obviously not better than the republicans.

The whole society persists in honoring the military which is nothing but a cesspool of violence, suicide, bullying, spousal abuse, racism, etc. I live near Fort Bragg, I know.Virtually all the best people in our society are in education and health care. And all the worst people are in the police and military. All American military bases around the world are surrounded by bars, drugs, prostitution. Poor kids are forced to sign up to get funds for education, but they come home mentally and physically handicapped, and the entire establishment won't speak the truth about these things.

The bodies of the dead that Obama has murdered are never shown, even though scarcely a day goes by when I don't see the bodies of the dead in Syria, so I know it's not out of respect for the dead.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 10 years ago

Iran shelters and "materially supports" terrorist groups

the US supports 40% of all government military budget and exports 40% of all weapons to the world

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 10 years ago

Worst violators of human rights.

the bad guys always are

I bet their leader kills his minions when plans go wrong too

[-] 1 points by Kirby101 (-5) 10 years ago

more b s

[-] 1 points by reckoning (53) 10 years ago

The zionist would destroy us all...

[-] 0 points by Lucky1 (-125) from Wray, CO 10 years ago

Canada is going to arrack Iran?

[-] 1 points by Karlin (350) from Nelson, BC 10 years ago

Ha! Not likely. At most the right-wing PM here would "be part of" an Israeli or American attack on Iran, just as they did with Iraq and Afghanistan [to the great dismay of a majority of Canadian citizens]. {as in America, our government does not represent the majority view}


[-] 0 points by marvelpym (-184) 10 years ago

They are probably just bracing for the expected fallout after Ben Affleck's Argo is released.

That was a joke.