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Forum Post: Iran: A Manufactured Threat - Iran has attacked no other country in over 200 years. It threatens none now. Its neighbors know it. So do Washington and Israel.

Posted 2 years ago on Feb. 7, 2012, 11:43 p.m. EST by Renaye (522)
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Iran has attacked no other country in over 200 years. It threatens none now. Its neighbors know it. So do Washington and Israel.

Nonetheless, saber rattling warnings continue. At issue is making an independent state a client one. It's why Washington orchestrated Syria's insurgency and continues anti-Iranian propaganda.

Tehran won't tolerate losing its sovereignty, nor should it. It suffered a generation of repression under Washington's installed Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi after the CIA's first ever coup ousted democratically elected Mohammad Mosaddegh.

http://www.activistpost.com/2012/02/iran-manufactured-threat.html

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[-] 6 points by Truth4Life (43) 2 years ago

The world failed to wake up and allowed Hitler to attack other nations. This resulted in World War II. How much longer will the world sit by and allow the USA and its puppets masters in Israel do the same in the Middle East?

STOP USA & ISRAELI IMPERIALISM, NOW!!

[-] 0 points by flip (5207) 2 years ago

the world was awake - the united states (look to gm and ford - maybe curtis wroght) helped to arm hitler so he would attack the soviet union - he went a bit off otherwise he would have been a hero - no matter how many jews he killed

[-] 5 points by PeaceNow (84) 2 years ago

The rest of the world knows this, so why do North Americans continue to not wake up. Are we so transfixed to mainstream media that its impossible to break free? When will we start to connect the dots?

[-] 5 points by shadz66 (17620) 2 years ago

@ 'PeaceNow' : Further to your comment, please also consider :

a) "US Iran Policy in 'Lockstep' with Israel ? President Obama Risks Becoming a Major-League War Criminal", by Dave Lindorff ; http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article30463.htm ,

b) "Israelis Should be Afraid of Their Leaders, not Iran : For far too long now Israel has been headed by heroes, the kind who don't hesitate to take the country on yet another dangerous, purposeless adventure. We must tell them now, loudly: We are a-f-r-ai-d.", by Gideon Levy ; http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article30465.htm ,

c) "U.S. Wrongly Demonizes Iran, But Ignores Nuclear Weapons Countries India, Pakistan, and Israel", by Karl Lindemann ; http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article30448.htm ,

d) "An Attack on Iran Must be Stopped : As the US and UK gear up for another senseless war in the Middle East, one thing is certain – it will end in disaster", by Andrew Murray ; http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article30438.htm &

e) "Anniversaries From ‘Unhistory’ : The events we fail to commemorate say as much about our national narrative as those we acknowledge.", by Noam Chomsky ; http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article30460.htm .

fiat justitia ...

[-] 4 points by Renaye (522) 2 years ago

I love this post!!

[-] 1 points by shadz66 (17620) 2 years ago

Thanx 'R' and further to and in continuance of, the above - to follow please also find :

f.) "Iran War : What Is AIPAC Planning ?", by MJ Rosenberg ; http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article30491.htm ,

g) "Iranian Nuclear “Engineers Basically Needed Killing” : New York Post", from The Media Matters Action Network ; http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article30492.htm ,

h) "Israel, MEK and State Sponsor of Terror Groups", by Glenn Greenwald ; http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article30496.htm ,

i.) "How To Start a War : The American Use of War Pretext Incidents", by Richard Sanders ; http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article30495.htm &

j.) "The Lord High Almighty Pooh-Bah of threats. The Grand Ayatollah of nuclear menace", by William Blum ; http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article30481.htm .

fiat lux ...

[-] 4 points by Nordic (390) 2 years ago

This country is brainwashed. Check this out:

http://frugaldad.com/2011/11/22/media-consolidation-infographic/

A handful of business executives control what 300 million American see as "news".

[-] 2 points by forourfutures (393) 2 years ago

So the problem doesn't matter. Only the solution matters and an Article V convention is it. We are 100 years late. Yea, hard to believe but our congress hasn't been constitutional or following their oaths in our life times, or that of our parents.

We don't need executives to unify behind the solution.

[-] 2 points by Mowat (164) 2 years ago

"Business executives" is an understatement. How about "gangsters" working collectively with the Federal Reserve, Hollywood, and a Zionist- controlled government.

[-] 1 points by Renaye (522) 2 years ago

You're fully awake I see. That's great news. We need more like you.

[-] 1 points by shadz66 (17620) 2 years ago

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[-] -1 points by asauti (-113) from Port Orchard, WA 2 years ago

Cast your vote for Ron Paul this year and help to either audit or "end" the Federal Reserve.

[-] 1 points by bklynsboy (834) 2 years ago

Fox is poison to American democracy.

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[+] -4 points by headlesscross (67) 2 years ago

"This country is brainwashed."

Yeah,I agree. That must explain why Obama got elected in 2008 and why many of you Libtards are going to double down on stupid again in Nov.

[-] 7 points by Nordic (390) 2 years ago

You idiots can't get it out of your heads that WE DON'T LIKE OBAMA.

Get that?

WE DON'T WANT OBAMA. Obama is just the Third Term of Bush. He's a Republican. He's a corporatist. He's a product of Wall Street and the Military Industrial Complex.

If anybody should like Obama, YOU SHOULD. He's quite possibly the best Republican president OF ALL TIME.

But you're too brainwashed to even pay attention.

Idiot.

[-] 2 points by BradB (2693) from Washington, DC 2 years ago

so ... who's your choice for a president ?

[-] -1 points by freakyfriday (179) 2 years ago

He's more of a right-wing socialist and we just don't dig socialism.

[-] 3 points by Nordic (390) 2 years ago

A command economy based around selling weapons isn't a type of socialism?

Here are the war profiteering contracts that the "Defense" Department handed out in ONE DAY. It will blow your mind.

http://www.defense.gov/contracts/contract.aspx?contractid=4568

[-] -2 points by headlesscross (67) 2 years ago

Get a grip,Obama is a Leftist,Socialist,Marxist and an anti-American POS.

You're just pissed cause he didn't go far enough Left,quick enough.

This narrative of Obama,a Republican is just a lame attempt to disassociate yourself from the Idiot you helped put in the White Mosque.

[-] 5 points by nomdeguerre (1775) from Brooklyn, NY 2 years ago

Ah, a low IQ Fox viewer getting further ignorized (is that a word) by too much Fox News (sic) viewing (this has been scientifically proven, look it up).

[-] 4 points by Nordic (390) 2 years ago

See, there you go. Name one thing that Obama has done that can be construed as "liberal". Name one.

Go ahead.

[+] -4 points by headlesscross (67) 2 years ago

You voted for him,why the hell did you?

"Name one thing that Obama has done that can be construed as "liberal"."

Obamacare

Repealed DADT.

Stopped supporting the "defense of marriage act".

Fast and Furious,(back door gun control)

Funding "Green Energy Companies" with tax dollars that are all failing.

Heaping more EPA/DOT regulations on the American people and businesses that are job killers.

Reading Miranda Rights to captured Enemy Combatants on the battle field.

Having a total anti-American energy agenda,stifling domestic drilling while stopping the building of the Keystone XL pipeline.

He believes in Wealth redistribution and his dialogue reflects that.

He has forced more people into Government welfare and food stamps through his Liberal policies and spending and inept handling of the economy.

He has spent $5 Trillion in just 3yrs.

He stopped deporting Illegals that do not have a so-called criminal background.

Suing States that are attempting to deal with the invasion from the south.

Apologies for America abroad.

Just because he likes to kill people doesn't make him a Republican, Ted Kennedy was a big Lib and he killed also,a pregnant woman by the way.

Look at his bud Leftist Bill Ayers,he liked to blow shit up and was part of a terrorist group The Weather Underground who did kill people.

This list is really long so I'll just leave the rest up to you.

[-] 4 points by Nordic (390) 2 years ago

What you people like to call "Obamacare" was in fact written by the health insurance industry. And was a carbon copy of the Repub legislation from back when Hillary was trying to get "Hillarycare" passed.

Repealing DADT affected nothing. It was a bone thrown to the fools who voted for him, a continuation of the con job. Same with the "defense of marriage act". None of these things have anything to do with government whatsoever.

Fast and the Furious was back door gun control?? Go figure. Only a brainwashed rightwinger could get that out of it.

Funding "Green Energy Companies" was basic fraud, anybody could have done that, Repub or Dem, doesn't matter. It's hardly "liberal" to defraud taxpayers. That's bipartisan.

Heaping more EPA/DOT regulations? Like WHAT?

Reading Miranda Rights to captured Enemy Combatants on the battlefield? Where did you read that? You do realize we still have a massive secret prison at Bagram, don't you? Where we constantly torture people? You would like that. And he sure ain't closing Gitmo any time soon, as he promised. You should like that, too.

The Keystone Pipeline was sending dirty Canadian oil to be shipped off to other countries. How was that supposed to help America? If you're so patriotic, you shouldn't support foreign companies exploiting our country. Why aren't you up in arms about BP for instance? They're a British company, and they were ordering our Coast Guard around!

Wealth redistribution? Like what? Giving more and more money to the defense departments? Merely TALKING about repealing the Bush Tax Cuts for the Filthy Rich and then NOT doing it? I said things he's DONE, not things he's SAID.

How is it liberal to send people into poverty so they have to rely on food stamps? That's Republican material right there. A liberal would have created a work program to put those people back to work.

Spending $5 trillion in 3 years? That's bipartisan, baby. They ALL do that, together. And who cut taxes during war time? Oh yeah, your buddy Bush, nobody had ever done that before. And check out where the money's going -- to the corporations that make the war toys, to the banks, it's "the rich get richer".

Suing states that are attempting to deal with the invasion from the south? That's just laughable. You do realize, don't you (no, of course you don't) that illegal immigration is supported and deliberately facilitated by Big Corporations? Mainly food corporations? Big Agriculture? So they have cheap labor to pick the food you eat? It ain't your run of the mill liberal citizen promoting this.

Apologies for America abroad? Right, did you even read a transcript of his SOTU speech? Where did he apologize for America invading a country based on lies and slaughtering a million civilians? Where did he apologize for his very own drone program slaughtering Pakistanis by the truckload? Where has he apologized for the State-sponsored terrorism the U.S. engaged in every day? Where did he apologize for helping prop up Mubarek for a generation? OH yeah, he didn't, he instead said that we should all be more like our suicidal military vets who are returning from the slaughterfields.

Your list is bullshit.

[-] 0 points by Marleyfowat (6) 2 years ago

Obama can piss off.

[-] 1 points by rayolite (461) 2 years ago

Mainstream media is mind control. Human beings only think about what they know.

[-] 1 points by PeaceNow (84) 2 years ago

I know, how do we convince people on a large scale to tune in to alternate news sources? I'm stumped!

[-] 1 points by rayolite (461) 2 years ago

Actually, news doesn't matter much, its a distraction from functional action at this point. Does it matter how bad it is? No. It matters knowing whart we do to change it.

How do we convince people to think about what strategy works rather than icons of alternative media?

[-] 1 points by PeaceNow (84) 2 years ago

I see...begin by talking to regular people about how we go about removing our corrupt government or repairing the constitution or overhauling media by talking to them as though its a foregone conclusion rather than try to convince them that there's a problem that needs to be fixed. Bypassing the obstacle in the first place, so to speak. I hate to say it, but some people are so easily led that it would actually work. Looks like we have a lot of talking to do.

[-] 4 points by Odin (583) 2 years ago

I anyone thinks this isn't about oil, they have been living on a different planet.

[-] 1 points by lithosere (65) 2 years ago

anyone who thinks Libya wasn't about oil is living on the moon. | btdubs don't fall for the trolls. V

[-] -3 points by freakyfriday (179) 2 years ago

And that's a bad thing? You know what will happen to this country if oil prices go back over 4 or 5/gal? We all love cheap oil but condemn our country for providing it. Is that what Hypocrite means?

[-] 4 points by Odin (583) 2 years ago

.. And it doesn't bother you that hundreds of thousands of innocent men, women, and children will die because of OUR thirst for oil. Yes we are all hypocrites. The difference between us is I don't want to be.

[-] 3 points by XXAnonymouSXX (455) 2 years ago

Is that what providing it means? Steal it from another country? This is an ignorant comment. If starting wars so we can steal other countries resources than no thank you. I don't support that in any form. No matter how you try to sugar coat that, its wrong with a capital W!

[-] 3 points by hamalmang (722) from Lebanon, PA 2 years ago

We subsidize oil companies to drill our cheap oil and sell it to foreign countries because it is more profitable. The US is one of the largest oil producing countries in the world but we import all the oil we use.

[-] 2 points by SparkyJP (1646) from Westminster, MD 2 years ago

It behooves every man who values liberty of conscience for himself, to resist invasions of it in the case of others: or their case may, by change of circumstances, become his own. Thomas Jefferson

[-] 1 points by lithosere (65) 2 years ago

vote with your dollar is a dead philosophy.

keep the horse before the cart (so to speak). deciding not to drive a car will not stop oil wars. stopping this empire may well stop us from driving, and life will be crap for a while, so we need to figure out another way of living as we struggle and as the empire folds. that's the tough and exciting part. but no way of life is worth the immiseration of most people on Earth and fueling a global climactic shift that could set the evolutionary clock back two billion years.

[-] 1 points by XenuLives (1645) from Charlotte, NC 2 years ago

We'll all start buying electric cars...like we should be doing now?

My current car is the last all-gas vehicle that I will ever drive. I'm going for, at the very least, a hybrid next. I'm not going to let some people @ the NYSE determine how much it costs for my transportation on any given day.

[-] 3 points by elf3 (2240) 2 years ago

If Israel goes to war with Iran than so do we - then China and Russia back Iran because of allied agreements ... are we about to have world war III ?

[-] 3 points by ohmygoodness (158) 2 years ago

How does one justify a military presence in times of peace? Instability?

How does one quell the fears of friendly dictatorships in the region?

Some nuke rattling, fear-mongering, calls for patriotism through self-righteous MSM journalistic quacks.

These brain-dead do not realize that there are people who think.

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[-] 2 points by Lacombe (4) from Sofia, Sofia-grad 2 years ago

Ask your mother what she wants - to have you killed in a war or to have grandchildren making mess in the house? Ask an Iranian mother what she wants. A Syrian mother, a Russian mother... Ask the 99% of the people. If this war happens - it will be a disgrace to all of us not making every possible effort to stop it. Who can be that insane not to see that this an attack against Russia and China and their vital cooperation with Iran. This adventure looks like population reduction program. Stop it!

[-] 1 points by Renaye (522) 2 years ago

Yet another person has awakened! Thank you.

[-] 2 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 2 years ago

Did you mean Iran has not initiated a war in over 200 years? Because they have been at war before and have attacked another country. I can only think of the Iran-Iraq war, but that was started by Iraq from what I understand about the subject.

I don't know much about Iranian history, but I am moderately informed about the Iran-Iraq war.

Either way, Vote for Diplomacy! Not war!

[-] 2 points by lithosere (65) 2 years ago

In November 2000, Iraq began selling its oil in Euros instead of dollars.

In 2009, Moammar Gaddhafi announced his plan to begin pricing Libyan oil (world's 8th largest oil producer) in Dinars.

In 2008 Iran opened an oil bourse—a commodities exchange—that marketed oil in currencies, explicitly excluding than the dollar. The day the bourse opened, while the opening speech was underway, a fiber-optic cable providing internet to much of the Gulf region was cut near Egypt. The bourse is easing into trading, beginning with polyethylene and methanol. In April 2011 trading in crude began.

Can you connect the dots? I think I know what might happen next...

[-] 2 points by asauti (-113) from Port Orchard, WA 2 years ago

Iran is one of the few nations that is not a member of the International Monetary Fund (IMF).

There are 196 countries in the world, and 187 of those belong to the IMF.

There is plenty of reason to suspect that the attempts to "manufacture Iran as a threat" are based on the goal of bringing them "under the umbrella" of a very powerful organization - the IMF.

[-] 2 points by Renaye (522) 2 years ago

You're spot on. Another thing they don't have in a globalist Federal Reserve Bank...yet. Just like Libya and Egypt and I think Syria as well. The Rothschild revolutions are doing well for themselves. After the mid-east is conquered, Chavez is next...no Federal Reserve Bank there either...yet.

[-] 0 points by asauti (-113) from Port Orchard, WA 2 years ago

I know that there is a healthy amount of resistance to the ideas of Ron Paul on this forum. I know this because I have been interacting on here for a while now, and my posts to "raise awareness" on certain topics rarely garner fellow support. And this is acceptable - everyone is entitled to their opinion.

However, IF someone believes in the massive amount of negative, and unregulated power that the Federal Reserve has, I would point out that Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate that ever speaks out against them. To vote for another candidate is to support the continued stranglehold that the Federal Reserve has, not only on the citizens of the U.S., but on those of other countries, as well.

[-] 2 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 2 years ago

The Iran–Iraq War (also known as the First Persian Gulf War and by various other names) was an armed conflict between the armed forces of Iraq and Iran, lasting from September 1980 to August 1988, making it the longest conventional war of the 20th century.[12][13][14] It was initially referred to in English as the "Persian Gulf War" prior to the "Gulf War" of 1990.[15] The war began when Iraq invaded Iran, launching a simultaneous invasion by air and land into Iranian territory on 22 September 1980 following a long history of border disputes, and fears of Shia Islam insurgency among Iraq's long-suppressed Shia majority influenced by the Iranian Revolution.

The Iran–Iraq War

[-] 2 points by bklynsboy (834) 2 years ago

Correct. The fanatical, suicidal Israeli right wing lobby controls Israel, Netanyahoo,Congress and presidents. It wants war at all costs, the world be damned. US politicians pander to this for votes, money and are terrified they will be labeled anti-semitic. Except Ron Paul.

[-] 2 points by lithosere (65) 2 years ago

please get over electoral politics.

[-] 1 points by bklynsboy (834) 2 years ago

Immeasurable importance; this controls America's actions and direction.

[-] 1 points by lithosere (65) 2 years ago

ya, like which lane the country drives in as it speeds towards war and global ecological collapse

[-] 0 points by Renaye (522) 2 years ago

Very well said.

[-] 1 points by bklynsboy (834) 2 years ago

No one wants war except suicidal fanatics.

[-] 0 points by Renaye (522) 2 years ago

Well, they sure do like suiciding their own people. They, on the other hand, have massive underground cities that they feel they will fare very well in.

[-] 1 points by bklynsboy (834) 2 years ago

They know Quadaffi's fate and will never give up.

[-] 2 points by TomTommorow (78) from Hardyston, NJ 2 years ago

An attack or war on Iran would be an assinine horrible mistake. Possibly dragging the whole world into WW3. Causing the destruction of much of our military, Iran is a larger and more powerfull country than most people realize. And possibly igniting a global conflagration uniting 1 billion Muslims and others against the West maybe even dragging in Russia and China. There is no way Israel with it's mid-east location could possibly escape the brunt of the heat of battle and severe damage if not total destruction if such a war happened. Thery would be right in the middle of it and couldn't get out of it. Do they really think that would somehow be to their benefit and they could somehow be safe from it? There is no way. Such a war would be a tragic event on all levels...leaving nothing but destruction and death and severe harm to all sides involved.

Surely there must be some saner voices in government or important sectors of society who can see this and realize it. Why such foolishness and so many people Hell bent on causing mutually destructive wars?

I don't think any of the so called "elites" realize if they ignite such a world wide conflagration that there is no way they will remain immune to it's effects and somehow magically safe from harm. It's pure insanity.

[-] 2 points by Renaye (522) 2 years ago

The ruling elite think they have it all figured out. They have massive underground cities where they can stay 5 years or more at a time, until they can safely come out.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/politics/207171-how-does-a-soldier-defend-the-constitution-from-a-domestic-enemy.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilm7h_MB9Dc

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[-] 1 points by bensdad (8977) 2 years ago

Manufactured - by an Iranian maniac


On October 26, 2005, IRIB News, an English-language subsidiary of the state-controlled Islamic Republic of Iran Broadcasting (IRIB), filed a story on Ahmadinejad's speech to the "World Without Zionism" conference in Asia, entitled: Ahmadinejad:
Israel must be wiped off the map.
The New York Times published a full transcript of the speech in which Ahmadinejad was quoted:

Our dear Imam (referring to Ayatollah Khomeini) said that the occupying regime must be wiped off the map and this was a very wise statement. We cannot compromise over the issue of Palestine. I have no doubt that the new wave that has started in Palestine, and we witness it in the Islamic world too, will eliminate this disgraceful stain from the Islamic world.

[-] 1 points by gestopomillyy (1695) 2 years ago

north americans are woken up.. its not the people its the government and the corporations that will profit that are eager to attack iran. do not blame the people. thats why we are here trying to take our country back from those warmongers

[-] 1 points by ShubeLMorgan2 (1088) from New York, NY 2 years ago

Thank you for this timely post.

[-] 1 points by Renaye (522) 2 years ago

You're most welcome.

[-] 1 points by WarmItUp (301) 2 years ago

Uh yeah Iran does threaten other countries by saying, "We will wipe Israel off the face of the earth" I think that is kind of a threat....I don't wan to go to war but seriously get your facts straight , you can't come out and say you want to destroy the state of israel...and not be taken seriously...I think a man named Hitler had the same issue with jews. That didn't go so well...

[-] 1 points by smmv2005 (106) 2 years ago

Do you know that two blue lines in Israel Flag means "Nile to Furat" that Shows Israel essentially has been created to Occupy the entire Middle East for Plunder the wealth of this region.

and the Jewish Star ,Indeed is the Hexagram that is in Kabbalah rituals of ancient Egypt (Satanism) that even can be seen behind the US Dollar. (One Dollar)

These Zions are Satanist and want to apply their Dirty ideas to whole of the world.

Yah my Friends, if don't believe my speech, just search google for: "Dollar Secrets" in image mode.

do you see that?!!

Even there were variant states of destruction of the Twin Towers in 9/11 behind different type of dollars. that means this project was planned many years ago.

Specially search this: Dollar secrets twin towers

[-] 1 points by bensdad (8977) 2 years ago

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[-] 1 points by nomdeguerre (1775) from Brooklyn, NY 2 years ago

No more U.S. blood for Israeli wars. Qui bono from our wars in the the Middle East?

[-] 1 points by freakyfriday (179) 2 years ago

The attack on our embassy there and subsequent hostage taking during the Carter years was indeed, an act of war according to generally accepted rules of diplomacy.

[-] 6 points by shadz66 (17620) 2 years ago

"The attack on (y)our embassy there and subsequent hostage taking", had Nothing to do with "an act of war" and Everything to do with The CIA's "Operation Ajax" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ajax ) being run out of that very same embassy in 1953 and the earnest desire of some of the young Iranian Revolutionary Students to ensure that history Not Be Repeated !!!

veritas vos liberabit ...

[-] 2 points by Nordic (390) 2 years ago

A little historically myopic of you. (you probably don't know what "myopic" means, so look it up).

We OVERTHREW their Democratically elected government in 1953. That was an act of war! We installed the Shah, who ruled with an iron fist until 1979 when they finally threw his ass out!

An entire generation of Americans had no freaking idea why Iran hated us, and you're one of them. I was, too, until I got an education. I highly recommend reading up on the history of the United States, and the way it has overthrown Democracies all around the world.

[-] 3 points by shadz66 (17620) 2 years ago

Re. your recommendation, please see :

fiat lux ...

[-] 0 points by freakyfriday (179) 2 years ago

Make you feel good to be insulting? I am well aware of American history and our manipulations all over the globe. Ain't it great to live in a country that can exert it's will internationally. I merely tossed out the hostage affair to show the OP was exagerrating a bit. What say you about Iran's comfort and support of Taliban and Al Queida? Not if it's justifed, just if Iran is all peace and sunshine?

[-] 4 points by Nordic (390) 2 years ago

When was the last time Iran invaded anybody?

When was the last time the U.S. invaded anybody?

Iran is a threat? Ha. Check out this little graphic:

http://campaigniran.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/usbases1.jpg

Iran is obviously threatened by us. We've completely surrounded them. AND they have huge oil fields. And we overthrew their Democratically elected government in 1953 and replaced him with the dictator Shah.

I think they have good reason to be paranoid.

And if you think they support the Taliban and Al Queda, you simply don't know what the fuck you're talking about. They're completely unrelated.

[-] 1 points by freakyfriday (179) 2 years ago

And I guess insults are a feel good thing for you. Link to full article http://www.jamestown.org/single/?no_cache=1&tx_ttnews%5Btt_news%5D=35708

Google Iran support Afghan for more articles Is Iran Supporting the Insurgency in Afghanistan?

Publication: Terrorism Monitor Volume: 7 Issue: 33

November 6, 2009 02:46 PM Age: 2 yrs

By: Chris Zambelis

EFP's ("superbombs") seized in Baghdad

Violence and instability in Afghanistan continue to rage in the form of an organic insurgency shaped by local identities, networks, and interests. Operating under the nebulous rubric of the Taliban, the insurgents in Afghanistan have evolved in sophistication, lethality, and geographic scope in recent years. While the presence of transnational radical Islamists led by al-Qaeda in Afghanistan and Pakistan augments the tactical and operational capabilities of the insurgents, myriad factors help fuel the violence that confronts the American-led Coalition. The reach of regional state actors, for instance, impacts the insurgency in Afghanistan. The machinations of Afghanistan’s neighbors, in essence, define its geopolitics. Pakistan’s impact on Afghan politics, society and the insurgency receives the most attention. Another influential actor in Afghanistan that is drawing more attention of late, however, but whose role in Afghan affairs is far less understood, is Iran.

Iran’s interests and reach into Afghan society are well known. Official U.S. and regional sources, however, often paint a confusing picture of the nature of Iran’s activities in Afghanistan. Iran is frequently described as a force for stability in Afghanistan, with interests that largely converge with those of the U.S. mission there, namely their shared opposition to the Taliban and al-Qaeda. Yet reports that Iranian-made munitions are finding their way into the hands of the Taliban coupled with allegations that Iran is actively providing insurgents with operational and material support are increasingly making headlines. These claims are echoed in General Stanley A. McChrystal’s unclassified August 2009 assessment of the situation in Afghanistan (McChrystal is commander of U.S. forces in Afghanistan). [1] At the same time, General McChrystal’s report cites Iran as a source of development aid and support for Kabul. These apparently contradictory assessments of Iran’s activities in Afghanistan are underlined by what the report calls Tehran’s “ambiguous role” in Afghanistan. U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates has also accused Tehran of playing a “double game” in Afghanistan through its alleged support for armed factions and its friendly relations with Kabul (Agence France-Presse, June 12; Asia Times [Hong Kong], July 8). In spite of Kabul’s close ties with Tehran, Afghan security sources have made similar claims implicating Iran in the insurgency in Afghanistan (RFE/RL, June 22, 2007).

[-] 2 points by Nordic (390) 2 years ago

Right. And Saddam Hussein had WMD's and could launch a nuclear attack on the United States in 45 minutes. And OBL had massive underground forts in the mountains, like something out of a James Bond movie.

Why would you believe anything these liars say?

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[-] 0 points by epa1nter (4650) from Rutherford, NJ 2 years ago

Iran's comfort and support for Al Queda, who are virulently hostile to Shiites, 90% of the Iranian population? Get real. Al Queda's greatest supporter is Saudi Arabia, our ALLY.

[-] 0 points by SteveKJR (-497) 2 years ago

So, do we want to wait until they have the nuclear capability to destroy Israel before we decide to take them to task. Those leaders are "nut cakes" - have you ever lived over there?

[-] 0 points by Mowat (164) 2 years ago

I agree with your posting except that the Syrian insurgency was not orchestrated by Washington. It is a real, passionate hatred of the majority of the Syrian people to the tyrant government led by the Alawite minority there. The trigger was the revolutions which took place in Tunisia, Egypt, and Libya.

[-] 3 points by Renaye (522) 2 years ago

General Wesley Clark says there was a plan of obliterating 7 middle eastern countries with in five years, and they're right on track.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nn1WTP8ClvI

Not to mention the Arab reports coming out on line saying that Syrian people were armed by nato to start a war. As was Egypt and Libya. This is a globalist nation building takeover.

[-] 1 points by shadz66 (17620) 2 years ago

@ 'R' : FYI ; "US Congress Pulsates With War Fever", by Eric Margolis : http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article30503.htm . pax.

[-] 1 points by Mowat (164) 2 years ago

I sincerely doubt there is an external factor here. What you mentioned, with due respect, is just a coincidence. What is happening in the Middle East is out of foreign parties control except, for once, in Libya, where the revolution turned into a civil-war and the West had a stake in ending it quickly. This was probably important because of its proximity to Europe. Syria is a different story because Israel wants the civil war to grow to include Lebanon and Hezbollah. Israel may have given invaluable US military secrets it possesses (thanks to Jonathan Pollard) to both China and Russia - in return for their vetoes against the UN resolution on Syria - to stop a happy ending as had happened in Libya.

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[-] -1 points by OccupyNews (1183) 2 years ago

If Iran goes solar, there is no attack. As for Iran attacking no one, what do you call the 8 year Iran vs Iraq war?

[-] 1 points by richardkentgates (3269) from Fort Walton Beach, FL 2 years ago

Don't bother. This guy has at least 60 user accounts on here. Anyone with a rank lower than 300 says something, it's probably Thrasy(or various user names). The dude has completely lost his mind, everyone knows it's him and that he is a paid troll but he won't give it up. Don't feed him.

[-] -1 points by tomahawk99 (-26) 2 years ago

Iran has its puppets like Hezbollah who do their fighting. Washington orchestrated Syria's insurgency?? Are yo nuts? Do you like Iran? Does it have rivers of chocolate and candy cane trees. Iran is like 30's germany, and you are an apologist for a horrible murderess, anti-american and anti semitic country. But then from your comments you are a loser and probably aren't a threat.

[-] -1 points by headlesscross (67) 2 years ago

By Tom Vanden Brook, USA TODAY

WASHINGTON — A sophisticated type of roadside bomb that U.S. officials have linked to Iran has been used increasingly against U.S. troops in Iraq. The device is called an explosively formed projectile (EFP). It is usually made from a pipe filled with explosives and capped by a copper disk. When the explosives detonate, they transform the disk into a molten jet of metal capable of penetrating armor. They perform in the same way that U.S. anti-tank missiles do.

"Properly handled, it goes through armor like a hot knife through butter," said John Pike of GlobalSecurity.org, a military think tank in Alexandria, Va.

Officials such as Lt. Gen. Raymond Odierno, the No. 2 U.S. commander in Iraq, and National Intelligence Director John Negroponte have said the new bombs are being provided by Iran and are killing U.S. troops. U.S. officials have declined to say exactly how many have been killed or how the weapons have been traced to Iran, which has denied supplying them.

The bombs must be machine-milled to precise specifications in order to work properly, said Sen. Jack Reed, D-R.I., a member of the Armed Services Committee. There are indications that some explosively formed projectiles used in Iraq may have been manufactured in Iran, he said. "There's a lot evidence that there's some Iranian connection in producing or at least disseminating the technology," Reed said.

IEDs are the largest killer of U.S. troops in Iraq. According to Pentagon figures through Jan. 20, they have killed 1,327 troops and wounded 11,861 others

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2007-01-30-ied-iran_x.htm

What were you saying about Iran again?

[-] 0 points by Nordic (390) 2 years ago

"U.S. officials"???

Like John Negroponte?

Do you have ANY idea what kinds of warmongering propagandists and slimy fucks guys like this are?

Yet you believe what they tell you?

Oh right, because you're an idiot who lives in a fantasy world and believes anything he reads that confirms his bias.

You probably still think Saddam Hussein had WMD's and was responsible for 9/11. Fool.

Evil pricks like Negroponte LOVE people like you.