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Forum Post: Insecticide firms in secret bid to stop ban that could save bees

Posted 11 months ago on April 28, 2013, 8:39 a.m. EST by BradB (2693) from Washington, DC
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Europe is on the brink of a landmark ban on the world's most widely used insecticides, which have increasingly been linked to serious declines in bee numbers. Despite intense secret lobbying by British ministers and chemical companies against the ban, revealed in documents obtained by the Observer, a vote in Brussels on Monday is expected to lead to the suspension of the nerve agents.

Bees and other insects are vital for global food production as they pollinate three-quarters of all crops. The plummeting numbers of pollinators in recent years has been blamed on disease, loss of habitat and, increasingly, the near ubiquitous use of neonicotinoid pesticides.

The prospect of a ban has prompted a fierce behind-the-scenes campaign. In a letter released to the Observer under freedom of information rules, the environment secretary, Owen Paterson, told the chemicals company Syngenta last week that he was "extremely disappointed" by the European commission's proposed ban. He said that "the UK has been very active" in opposing it and "our efforts will continue and intensify in the coming days".

Publicly, ministers have expressed concern for bees, with David Cameron saying: "If we do not look after our bee populations, very serious consequences will follow."

The chemical companies, which make billions from the products, have also lobbied hard, with Syngenta even threatening to sue individual European Union officials involved in publishing a report that found the pesticides posed an unacceptable risk to bees, according to documents seen by the Observer. The report, from the European Food Safety Authority (EFSA), led the commission to propose a two-year ban on three neonicotinoids. "EFSA has provided a strong, substantive and scientific case for the suspension," a commission spokesman said.

more>>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2013/apr/28/europe-insecticides-ban-save-bees

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[-] 4 points by Nevada1 (4024) 11 months ago

Corporate War Of Aggression. Crime Against Humanity. Crime Against Every Living Thing.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 months ago

Sounds insane don't it? Till one takes a good look. GREED the #1 cause of sickness disease death and destruction.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 months ago

Only -2 ??? Well it bears repeating then.


[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (3112) 27 minutes ago

Corporate War Of Aggression. Crime Against Humanity. Crime Against Every Living Thing.

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[-] -2 points by DKAtoday (24557) from Coon Rapids, MN 23 minutes ago

Sounds insane don't it? Till one takes a good look. GREED the #1 cause of sickness disease death and destruction.

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[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (4024) 11 months ago

Like a War Crime, and should be treated as such.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 months ago

Like a War Crime

In many instances - that is exactly what it is.

In many instances - ( where not considered a war crime ) Crime against Humanity still applies.

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (4024) 11 months ago

Chemical Weapons, used every day.

[-] 3 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 months ago

Brought to U by such as Monsatan - ( NEW & IMPROVED ) now with the ability to grow poison crops.

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (4024) 11 months ago

Criminal charges. We really need criminal charges.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 months ago

I believe an education campaign - aimed at educating the public about the existence of such crimes ( on going ) in the daily "normal" ( insanity ) operation of business ( here in the USA as well as around the world ) coupled with actions that can be taken part in ( Avazz could be a good launch pad for world education/action ) - with a consistent call for criminal charges and prosecution - is a necessity.

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (4024) 11 months ago

Well said. People have gone to prison for less.

It would only take the suggestion that Al-Qada had used some Roundup, and wedding parties would be vaporized by drone attacks.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 months ago

It would only take the suggestion that Al-Qada had used some Roundup, and wedding parties would be vaporized by drone attacks.

Exactly!!!

Perhaps their mistake is - that they are not incorpoRATed and doing it all to make a buck.

[-] 2 points by ZenDog (20543) from South Burlington, VT 11 months ago

well fu.uk

lets bring back thalidomide while we are at it . . .

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 months ago

DDT - I mean What The Fuck?

[-] 4 points by ZenDog (20543) from South Burlington, VT 11 months ago

someone should threaten to counter sue . . . and I mean everyone . . . from the upper echelon minions to the board of directors - sue them all . . . .

everyone

sue them all

heeeheeehee

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 months ago

I always thought a peoples action type of attack on the destroyers - for the defense of the world through creative law suits would be a good idea.

Good rolling jubilee type action?

[-] 3 points by ZenDog (20543) from South Burlington, VT 11 months ago

I think the white supremacists have a process they use, involving the legal system and ways to harness it to harass civic officials. We could take a process like that and focus it at big international conglomerates, and probably make it international in scope.

Clearly they think the threat of law suit is intimidating - in part because they have deep pockets with which to fund teams of legal experts.

Solution? keep the fukers really, really busy . . .

that would impact both the corporation and the legal system itself - an arm of government, be a demonstration of the will of the people - it is possible that such an action would very efficiently create pressure in two directions at the same time.

Depending on the success of such a campaign, laws would change within 2-10 years, making such campaigns more difficult to implement.

I haven't looked really closely at the proposed process itself, but it is a perfectly reasonable idea.

I mean, think about it - if tens of thousands of people all filed individual lawsuits the fukers are going to be kept really really busy - which will serve as a huge distraction to their normal duties of inflicting their will on humanity worldwide.

[-] 1 points by BradB (2693) from Washington, DC 11 months ago
  • hmmm..... I like the concept.... let's think of the possible repercussions ... individuals being counter-sued by big money....
  • so... how bout ... class action suits .... ie ... "Counter Action"
  • as a group ... filling counter suits .... against anyone who threatens our politicians
[-] 2 points by ZenDog (20543) from South Burlington, VT 11 months ago

I don't know - but a couple of legal experts might be very useful in considering how best to put together this kind of campaign.

It might prove to be very complicated for a large organization to address several different suits based in one hundred different communities - in fact, we could even tailor such a campaign very specifically.

Say, using the tools of corp espionage we can identify one individual within a chemical company say, and this person we know is not only favorable to our position but is also in a seat of influence - we could target him just enough to provide cover as he whispers in the ear of all those others - from board members to management, whom we slam really hard with paper.

Or we could do just the opposite. NOT slam one officer we want to cast suspicion on.

We could, if we got rolling, wreak havoc.

How can they possibly respond to one hundred suites from each of one hundred different court districts.

They will go nuts.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 months ago

Tough part will be getting enough onto court schedules at the same time.

[-] -1 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 months ago

Yep - disable their attacks on the legal system for their gain ( at the expense of everyone and everything else ) by tying them up in court.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20543) from South Burlington, VT 11 months ago

Exactly

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 months ago

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (24556) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 hour ago

DDT - I mean What The Fuck? ↥twinkle ↧stinkle reply edit delete permalink


Someone have a hardon for DDT ???

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (4024) 11 months ago

uranium bullets

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 months ago

War crime - crime against Humanity. Dirty weapon of terror.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 months ago

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (3128) 1 hour ago

uranium bullets

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[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (24567) from Coon Rapids, MN 46 minutes ago

War crime - crime against Humanity. Dirty weapon of terror.

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As armed Drones are a war crime in much of their use.

[-] 1 points by redandbluestripedpill (333) 11 months ago

We see runaway science under corporate control. The same problem exists here, are gov officials here as realistic as Europe?

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (4024) 11 months ago

No, good point.