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Forum Post: In Order to Form a More Perfect Union...Collapse the System

Posted 12 years ago on Oct. 15, 2011, 4:50 p.m. EST by Idahoamerican (57)
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The only way to stop the machine, stop the corporations from taking all of our money, and stop the government from their many abuses is to STOP. Their power is money, our money, and we need to simply stop giving it to them! The only way to change things is to show them that WE hold the key to everything, and WE can completely collapse their systems. Only then can we rebuild a more perfect union.

  1. The first thing we can ALL do to make them crap their pants...Pull all of our money out of the banks. We can hold onto it, instead of making their paychecks bigger. Cut up the credit cards, close our accounts, pay off your homes - or stop paying the mortgage and don't allow anyone to take your home..or better yet, walk away and live on the "government" land. Stop paying any type of interest to anyone. If we can't pay cash, we don't need it.
  2. Stop going to those big chain stores...there are plenty of the 99% with businesses we can feel good about supporting.
  3. Minimize or eliminate gas consumption..we all know how to do it. We don't need to drive EVERYWHERE. Or get a moped. or a horse.
  4. Install wood heat. It's not hard, and the sweat of your brow keeps your family warm...and there are PLENTY of trees, don't let them lie to you! Just be responsible about it by cutting down the standing dead trees.
  5. To the unemployed, or those employed by the giants...make your own job! Minimize your overhead, and we will support you. If we truly want change, this is the best and fastest way to make them understand FULLY that we are not kidding. When we start taking our money back, only then will they get it. We can march and gather and talk..but until we ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING...nobody cares and they will just keep on raping us. Is it Sacrifice? YES Will it Save our country from the wolves? YES Make it better for our children? YES COLLAPSE THEIR SYSTEM..only then can WE make the change.

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[-] 1 points by monahan (272) 12 years ago

Unions do the same thing

[-] 1 points by metapolitik (1110) 12 years ago

Here's what I do (and have been doing for years):

  • Never keep money in the bank. Cash Paycheck, withdraw all but the $10 needed to keep the account open.

  • Walk everywhere or use public transportation. If everyone did this, there would be no global warming.

  • Never buy anything unless I need it. Clothes from thrift-stores. Used computers. Etc...

  • Never use credit card for anything. If I can't afford it, I don't need it.

...These are just a few of the things you can do.

[-] 1 points by mellyrn (1) 12 years ago

We can "collapse" the current system by establishing a viable alternative and letting the current one fade out.

About the Convention being called for next July 4 -- why are we sticking to the ancient paradigm of representatives? There's this thing called "the internet" which is cool for polls and stuff. Surely there are some programmers who could give the world real live-time interactive democracy?

[-] 1 points by atki4564 (1259) from Lake Placid, FL 12 years ago

Better yet, create your own banks, and related businesses, as Bank Owner-Voters, for many more people will come to your side when you are proactive (for “new” Business & Government solutions), instead of reactive (against “old” Business & Government solutions), which is why what we most immediately need is a comprehensive “new” strategy that implements all our various socioeconomic demands at the same time, regardless of party, and although I'm all in favor of taking down today's ineffective and inefficient Top 10% Management System of Business & Government, there's only one way to do it – by fighting bankers as bankers ourselves; that is, using a Focused Direct Democracy organized according to our current Occupations & Generations. Consequently, I have posted a 1-page Summary of the Strategically Weighted Policies, Organizational Operating Structures, and Tactical Investment Procedures necessary to do this at:

http://getsatisfaction.com/americanselect/topics/on_strategic_legal_policy_organizational_operational_structures_tactical_investment_procedures

Join

http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/StrategicInternationalSystems/

because we need 100,000 “support clicks” at AmericansElect.org to support a Presidential Candidate -- such as any given political opportunist you'd like to draft -- in support of the above bank-focused platform.

Most importantly, remember, as cited in the first link, that as Bank Owner-Voters in your 1 of 48 "new" Business Investment Groups (or "new" Congressional Committees) you become the "new" Congress replacing the "old" Congress according to your current Occupation & Generation, called a Focused Direct Democracy.

Therefore, any Candidate (or Leader) therein, regardless of party, is a straw man, a puppet; it's the STRATEGY – the sequence of steps – that the people organize themselves under, in Military Internet Formation of their Individual Purchasing & Group Investment Power, that's important. In this, sequence is key.

Why? Because there are Natural Social Laws – in mathematical sequence – that are just like Natural Physical Laws, such as the Law of Gravity. You must follow those Natural Social Laws or the result will be Injustice, War, etc.

The FIRST step in Natural Social Law is to CONTROL the Banks as Bank Owner-Voters. If you do not, you will inevitably be UNJUSTLY EXPLOITED by the Top 10% Management Group of Business & Government who have a Legitimate Profit Motive, just like you, to do so.

Consequently, you have no choice but to become Candidates (or Leaders) yourselves as Bank Owner-Voters according to your current Occupation & Generation.

So please JOIN the 2nd link so we can make our support clicks at AmericansElect.org when called for, at exactly the right time, by an e-mail from that group, in support of the above the bank-focused platform. If so, then you will see and feel how your goals can be accomplished within the above strategy as a “new” Candidate (or Leader) of your current Occupation & Generation.

[-] 1 points by dktechguy112 (16) 12 years ago

collapse the system? That will not work. You will not get enough support, and how about we get the .001% that are messing up out, instead of making everyone suffer by collapsing the system.

[-] 1 points by Abridge3141 (117) 12 years ago

DEAR INDIVIDUAL READING THIS, What must we as people do to fight this grave injustice inflicted upon us, by the ones who lust for power? How can we end the reign of the wicked and immoral and mete JUSTICE upon the oppressors as we have suffered from their hands-their blood stained hands... An idea of REVOLUTION-no, the act of revolution enacted by the proletarians! Must we as individuals ,as is always done, remain pawns to these people, these monoliths that we alone as individuals cannot surmounted...I surmise that we are not ignorant to the woes inflicted upon us by their enormities? We must UNIFY! Unity will be the way in which we assert ourselves!...While I realize all are not are not without income or funds and many cannot unify with this growing movement do to reasons of possible opposition and they being the people I'm question who we oppose (Wall Street), and many have responsibility they must tend to that take precedence. We must rise and vanquish this behemothto restore the equilibrium, for when disturbed it causes much chaos and strife in the hearts of man( man being neutral to represent all genders) in his mind and when mans mind and soul are in chaos as many are they rise to vanquish the pestiferous wealthy. However we should not just target these individuals, each of us individually must confront the corruption in our hearts, how can we judge the corrupt and deem them so when we cannot be amenable for ourselves we will surely be deemed hypocrites as we will be.....I am not meaning to say that this protest is in any way unjust, for far too long have we suffered, I mean that we are expected to expiate our sins -assume our parts in the problems we face and how we may have caused it. Yes, the Bankers on Wall Street are corrupt in ways we don't have evidence of without an investigation. But as we suffer soshall they, for we will make it so. But what of our government I say, my fellow citizens do not neglect to Confront the complicit in this affair for the roots of corruption are deeply seated, we have silent enemies amongst us-be warned that although succession in our goals will happen we may face a greater threat to our rights granted unto us from birth be prudent and circumspect. Another issue I wish to address is the idea of mans continual corruption as all things will be permeated with this darkness Inside our hearts.......when a system is created it always deviates from the righteous path, for nations we have learnt of in our education are littered with tales of nations that became corrupt and faded Into the ruin of collapse, we know that a society without corruption is utterly inconceivable, impossible in ways each and everyone of us know...for as long as men exist so shall our inner evil....but I digress from my original Intent of this passage and I ask forgiveness as we must forgive all in all eventual....the rising potentiality of this movement is quite an astonishment, I thought we were not capable of such things and thus I admit I had less faith in my fellow man. I see that we have all come to the realization of the need to bring the greedy to justice, although the reasons for your protesting may be unique to you, you share many goal, I had prognostications, inklings seems more appropriate of a term, that one day man would wake to realize the greater truth outside of his/her reality, and break the cycles of obsession with superficial base needs and trite motives, a dull and predictable lot we were but we've surpassed that I hope....for if not we will founder and fall Into the patterns we had grown so accustomed to, living such prosaic pedestrian lives stultified by the elite and of our own ignorance we always have the means to educate ourselves in this age, we have no limits to what we may learn based on our status in society, the powerful can no longer succeed in keeping us stupefied we have freewill to reason and learn and form our own ideas, ideas that would otherwise have died by the hands of the bigots! Our endeavours shall be crowned with fruition of our goals for our will allows it, we have broken free from the will of the oppressors......as Desmond Tutu stated "If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor." YOURS TRULY-Aaron Thomas Bridge

[-] 1 points by Idahoamerican (57) 12 years ago

I love this reply!! "Let's use the internet for this purpose: Everyone renounce their debt - and discontinue payment on one day. Then post the names of people who DO pay their debts. Not for any purpose of violence, but so that other people in the community can gently encourage them not to feed this tyranny."

[-] 1 points by Idahoamerican (57) 12 years ago

Get our money back in our pockets and out of theirs!

[-] 1 points by Idahoamerican (57) 12 years ago

Yime to demand our lives back...and our money.

[-] 1 points by Idahoamerican (57) 12 years ago

If we stop GIVING them our lives...we can have them back!!

[-] 1 points by CarryTheGripsUpToTheAttic (133) 12 years ago

Let's use the internet for this purpose:

Everyone renounce their debt - and discontinue payment on one day.

Then post the names of people who DO pay their debts. Not for any purpose of violence, but so that other people in the community can gently encourage them not to feed this tyranny.

[-] 1 points by Idahoamerican (57) 12 years ago

True...it would not be easy, but nothing ever worth having was easy. We have to fight for it! Go big..or go home.

[-] 1 points by jacksmith (5) 12 years ago

For all those who want to support this cause by sending food and non perishable supplies to OccupyWallStreet, I would like to share a channel used by many to send their donations. Use: Delivery.com and under the grocery tab look for Village Farm and Grocery. Buy the merchandize and use the delivery address as: OccupyWallStreet 1 Liberty Plaza Ground New York, Ny 10006 Tiffany Place 212-475-7521 Food and essential are delivered by the Deli without any delivery fee and it has a massive list of options. Just shared my 2 cents.

[-] 1 points by TechJunkie (3029) from Miami Beach, FL 12 years ago

Unemployed person who makes his own job: "entrepreneur"

(a particular flavor of evil capitalist.)

[-] 1 points by Idahoamerican (57) 12 years ago

Ready?

[-] 1 points by MattE (74) 12 years ago

"don't allow anyone to take your home..or better yet, walk away and live on the "government" land."

Let me know how that works out.