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Forum Post: I'm Voting for Elizabeth Warren because she is Cherokee

Posted 2 years ago on May 3, 2012, 1:27 p.m. EST by Krowell (-69)
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Thank goodness the system worked for Elizabeth Warren. We need to push the Cherokees.

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[-] 5 points by bannedyetagain (4) 2 years ago

That's almost as smart as voting for someone just because he is black.

[-] 1 points by redackdid (-41) 2 years ago

LMAO,funny thanks.

[-] -1 points by VQkag (930) 2 years ago

She will work hard for the 99%. the 1% hate her so she has all the right enemies. I guess you are among those enemies

[-] 0 points by redackdid (-41) 2 years ago

You don't have to be a wealthy person to spot a Leftist,Progressive demagogue who panders to her useful Idiots and Drones,tells them anything and they suck it up and believe it,you know,like you did with Obama. Look how great that's worked out.

[-] 1 points by junglemonkeez (208) 2 years ago

If nothing really happens between now and Sept., I mean if this is all the 99 can muster before Sept. Then, this is just Half Time for Pres. Obama, and for my part this is fine with me, He is a Great man unlike that PeeWee Herman of a Pres. last time.

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[-] 1 points by JackHall (413) 2 years ago

If you seriously believe that then GW has found some WMD from Iraq.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLI5mpwgJW0

[-] 1 points by TitusMoans (2451) from Boulder City, NV 2 years ago

No worse than George W. Bush, who you sucked up--hook, line, and sinker. Maybe you can bring him back for a third term, bypass the Twenty-second Amendment. I'm sure you'd have a lot of supporters.

[-] 2 points by GypsyKing (8719) 2 years ago

No worse . . .? GWB is a bonafied traitor!

[-] 2 points by bensdad (8977) 2 years ago

don' t insult traitors

[-] 1 points by GypsyKing (8719) 2 years ago

Sorry, they do have their place in history.

[-] -1 points by TitusMoans (2451) from Boulder City, NV 2 years ago

I believe all politicians all have one thing in mind and isn't the proletariat.,

[-] 2 points by bensdad (8977) 2 years ago

Bernie Sanders
Paul Wellstone
Alan Grayson
Leon Trotsky
MLK
Ghandi
Eleanor Roosevelt

[-] 1 points by TitusMoans (2451) from Boulder City, NV 2 years ago

Barack Obama, George W Bush, Paul Ryan, Joe McCarthy, ad infinitum

[-] 1 points by bensdad (8977) 2 years ago

"I believe all politicians all have one thing in mind and isn't the proletariat.,"
Using the words "all" "no" "none" almost always leads to an error or stupidity.
Above are 7 people who disprove your "all" statement.

[-] 1 points by TitusMoans (2451) from Boulder City, NV 2 years ago

I would choose to disagree with you, but believe whatever you want. I certainly won't argue the relative merit of meritless politicians.

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[-] 1 points by GypsyKing (8719) 2 years ago

I think that's an oversimplification.

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[-] -1 points by VQkag (930) 2 years ago

lotta name callin there boss. take a breath. Shes got the right enemies (you being one of them). President has worked out real well. The real problem is repub obstruction. they work for the 1%. Won't be easy. but we gotta stay the course. Join us in taking back the country from multi nation corps and for working Americans. join ows

[-] 0 points by redackdid (-41) 2 years ago

Ok,I'll bite,..."President has worked out real well"?????

Based on what? What has Barry done well?? Are Americans better off today than 4yrs ago?

"stay the course"? Till we totally go over the cliff? What?....so Obama can chock up another $$$6 trillion in debt??

You are so out of the reality loop that conversing with you is useless because there is no common frame of reference....like...the actual facts and truth which you seem to be ignorant of.

[-] 1 points by bensdad (8977) 2 years ago

Obama’s Top 25 Accomplishments


I may not think everything Obama has done is ideal.
I may think some things Obama has not done should have been done.


If you have opinions and beliefs such as :
……Obama is not an American / Obama can control gas prices / Obama is a Muslim -
don’t waste your time reading the following facts


If you have opinions and beliefs such as :
……koch, fox, alec, beck, heritage, rush are good news sources
don’t waste your time reading the following facts


If you have opinions and beliefs such as :
……evolution is a “theory”, Noah put the kangaroos back in Australia, Bush is not a war monger
don’t waste your time reading the following facts


If you believe that, during the last 5 years, that
……Bain Romney or Cotton Mather Santorum has helped America
don’t waste your time reading the following facts


By Paul Glastris, Ryan Cooper, and Siyu Hu

  1. Passed Health Care Reform: After five presidents over a century failed to create universal health insurance, signed the Affordable Care Act (2010). It will cover 32 million uninsured Americans beginning in 2014 and mandates a suite of experimental measures to cut health care cost growth, the number one cause of America’s long-term fiscal problems.

  2. Passed the Stimulus: Signed $787 billion American Recovery and Reinvestment Act in 2009 to spur economic growth amid greatest recession since the Great Depression. Weeks after stimulus went into effect, unemployment claims began to subside. Twelve months later, the private sector began producing more jobs than it was losing, and it has continued to do so for twenty-three straight months, creating a total of nearly 3.7 million new private-sector jobs.

  3. Passed Wall Street Reform: Signed the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act (2010) to re-regulate the financial sector after its practices caused the Great Recession. The new law tightens capital requirements on large banks and other financial institutions, requires derivatives to be sold on clearinghouses and exchanges, mandates that large banks provide “living wills” to avoid chaotic bankruptcies, limits their ability to trade with customers’ money for their own profit, and creates the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (now headed by Richard Cordray) to crack down on abusive lending products and companies.

  4. Ended the War in Iraq: Ordered all U.S. military forces out of the country. Last troops left on December 18, 2011.

  5. Began Drawdown of War in Afghanistan: From a peak of 101,000 troops in June 2011, U.S. forces are now down to 91,000, with 23,000 slated to leave by the end of summer 2012. According to Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta, the combat mission there will be over by next year.

  6. Eliminated Osama bin laden: In 2011, ordered special forces raid of secret compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan, in which the terrorist leader was killed and a trove of al-Qaeda documents was discovered.

  7. Turned Around U.S. Auto Industry: In 2009, injected $62 billion in federal money (on top of $13.4 billion in loans from the Bush administration) into ailing GM and Chrysler in return for equity stakes and agreements for massive restructuring. Since bottoming out in 2009, the auto industry has added more than 100,000 jobs. In 2011, the Big Three automakers all gained market share for the first time in two decades. The government expects to lose $16 billion of its investment, less if the price of the GM stock it still owns increases.

  8. Recapitalized Banks: In the midst of financial crisis, approved controversial Treasury Department plan to lure private capital into the country’s largest banks via “stress tests” of their balance sheets and a public-private fund to buy their “toxic” assets. Got banks back on their feet at essentially zero cost to the government.

  9. Repealed “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell”: Ended 1990s-era restriction and formalized new policy allowing gays and lesbians to serve openly in the military for the first time.

  10. Toppled Moammar Gaddafi: In March 2011, joined a coalition of European and Arab governments in military action, including air power and naval blockade, against Gaddafi regime to defend Libyan civilians and support rebel troops. Gaddafi’s forty-two-year rule ended when the dictator was overthrown and killed by rebels on October 20, 2011. No American lives were lost.

  11. Told Mubarak to Go: On February 1, 2011, publicly called on Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak to accept reform or step down, thus weakening the dictator’s position and putting America on the right side of the Arab Spring. Mubarak ended thirty-year rule when overthrown on February 11.

  12. Reversed Bush Torture Policies: Two days after taking office, nullified Bush-era rulings that had allowed detainees in U.S. custody to undergo certain “enhanced” interrogation techniques considered inhumane under the Geneva Conventions. Also released the secret Bush legal rulings supporting the use of these techniques.

  13. Improved America’s Image Abroad: With new policies, diplomacy, and rhetoric, reversed a sharp decline in world opinion toward the U.S. (and the corresponding loss of “soft power”) during the Bush years. From 2008 to 2011, favorable opinion toward the United tates rose in ten of fifteen countries surveyed by the Pew Global Attitudes Project, with an average increase of 26 percent.

  14. Kicked Banks Out of Federal Student Loan Program, Expanded Pell Grant Spending: As part of the 2010 health care reform bill, signed measure ending the wasteful decades-old practice of subsidizing banks to provide college loans. Starting July 2010 all students began getting their federal student loans directly from the federal government. Treasury will save $67 billion over ten years, $36 billion of which will go to expanding Pell Grants to lower-income students.

  15. Created Race to the Top: With funds from stimulus, started $4.35 billion program of competitive grants to encourage and reward states for education reform.

  16. Boosted Fuel Efficiency Standards: Released new fuel efficiency standards in 2011 that will nearly double the fuel economy for cars and trucks by 2025.

  17. Coordinated International Response to Financial Crisis: To keep world economy out of recession in 2009 and 2010, helped secure from G-20 nations more than $500 billion for the IMF to provide lines of credit and other support to emerging market countries, which kept them liquid and avoided crises with their currencies.

  18. Passed Mini Stimuli: To help families hurt by the recession and spur the economy as stimulus spending declined, signed series of measures (July 22, 2010; December 17, 2010; December 23, 2011) to extend unemployment insurance and cut payroll taxes.

  19. Began Asia “Pivot”: In 2011, reoriented American military and diplomatic priorities and focus from the Middle East and Europe to the Asian-Pacific region. Executed multipronged strategy of positively engaging China while reasserting U.S. leadership in the region by increasing American military presence and crafting new commercial, diplomatic, and military alliances with neighboring countries made uncomfortable by recent Chinese behavior.

  20. Increased Support for Veterans: With so many soldiers coming home from Iraq and Iran with serious physical and mental health problems, yet facing long waits for services, increased 2010 Department of Veterans Affairs budget by 16 percent and 2011 budget by 10 percent. Also signed new GI bill offering $78 billion in tuition assistance over a decade, and provided multiple tax credits to encourage businesses to hire veterans.

  21. Tightened Sanctions on Iran: In effort to deter Iran’s nuclear program, signed Comprehensive Iran Sanctions, Accountability, and Divestment Act (2010) to punish firms and individuals who aid Iran’s petroleum sector. In late 2011 and early 2012, coordinated with other major Western powers to impose sanctions aimed at Iran’s banks and with Japan, South Korea, and China to shift their oil purchases away from Iran.

  22. Created Conditions to Begin Closing Dirtiest Power Plants: New EPA restrictions on mercury and toxic pollution, issued in December 2011, likely to lead to the closing of between sixty-eight and 231 of the nation’s oldest and dirtiest coal-fired power plants. Estimated cost to utilities: at least $11 billion by 2016. Estimated health benefits: $59 billion to $140 billion. Will also significantly reduce carbon emissions and, with other regulations, comprises what’s been called Obama’s “stealth climate policy.”

  23. Passed Credit Card Reforms: Signed the Credit Card Accountability, Responsibility, and Disclosure Act (2009), which prohibits credit card companies from raising rates without advance notification, mandates a grace period on interest rate increases, and strictly limits overdraft and other fees.

  24. Eliminated Catch-22 in Pay Equality Laws: Signed Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act in 2009, giving women who are paid less than men for the same work the right to sue their employers after they find out about the discrimination, even if that discrimination happened years ago. Under previous law, as interpreted by the Supreme Court in Ledbetter v. Goodyear Tire & Rubber Co., the statute of limitations on such suits ran out 180 days after the alleged discrimination occurred, even if the victims never knew about it.

  25. Protected Two Liberal Seats on the U.S. Supreme Court: Nominated and obtained confirmation for Sonia Sotomayor, the first Hispanic and third woman to serve, in 2009; and Elena Kagan, the fourth woman to serve, in 2010. They replaced David Souter and John Paul Stevens, respectively.


do you have the courage to answer this question:
WHICH OF THESE ACHIEVEMENTS IS BAD FOR AMERICA? AND WHY?

[-] 1 points by bensdad (8977) 2 years ago

ask a GM employee

[-] -1 points by VQkag (930) 2 years ago

We are better off. Of course we are. 4 yrs ago the financial industry had crashed the world economy. They threatened to withhold lending Bush threw them a trillion dollars. President Obama has created 3 million jobs, would have been 4 million more if not for republican obstruction. the trillions in debt we have accumulated since the President took office was baked in by the previous Republican admin. Dems only added 1 trillion. I think we must Vote republicans out. they work for big wall st, big oil and all the criminals that crashed the world economy. Support the 99%. support ows. It's our only hope. get on board we need each other.

[-] 1 points by francismjenkins (3713) 2 years ago

Nice post .... :)

[-] 2 points by VQkag (930) 2 years ago

thanks

[-] -1 points by Cweiss (-8) 2 years ago

Yeah, the debt was "baked in." Call me I have a new medical cure for baldness.

[-] 1 points by VQkag (930) 2 years ago

You don't have to believe it it's a matter of fact the annual deficit ballooned during the last admin. that annual deficit is still with us every year and it has added trillions to the national debt. President Obama added very little to it. He did not eliminate the annual deficit that he inherited from the previous admin. but he added only a small portion. So suck it up. support ows. vote out republicans

[-] -1 points by Cweiss (-8) 2 years ago

I don't know what numbers you are looking at but the deficit has grown sharply under Obama, not withstanding what is coming from the health care bill. He has no idea shat he is doing and business knolls it.

[-] 1 points by VQkag (930) 2 years ago

Well obviously we disagree. the health care costs haven't kicked in. You aren't willing to admit that Bush created a yearly deficit during his admin? I can't make you see the truth. support ows

[-] 0 points by Cweiss (-8) 2 years ago

Yes Bush did create a deficit as has Obama. The latter is much larger but that does not condone the former.

[-] 2 points by epa1nter (4650) from Rutherford, NJ 2 years ago

The latter is NOT bigger than the former. Obama's policies have added about 1.7% to the deficit that otherwise was structural, inherited, or caused by the economic crash. 10 TRILLION dollars of the debt projected over the next ten years is due to the Bush tax cut for the wealthy alone, and the debt was over 10 TRILLION dollars before Obama took office.

[-] 0 points by Cweiss (-8) 2 years ago

Here is CBS News: "The National Debt has now increased more during President Obama's three years and two months in office than it did during 8 years of the George W. Bush presidency".

Ans this is not even including the increased expenses due to Obamacare.

This deficit will get better as the 47% who don't pay Federal taxes continues and increases.

[-] 1 points by epa1nter (4650) from Rutherford, NJ 2 years ago

THe debt increased more because of three things: the wars, the RECESSION, and the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy. Obama's contribution to the debt has been 1.7% in new spending programs. All but 1.7% of the deficit is due to Bush's legacy and mandatory (by law) spending.

[-] 2 points by VQkag (930) 2 years ago

Bush created the existing deficit. He started with a surplus! remember? Obama didn't create the current existing deficit. He has added to it. but he has added much less than Bush. Those are the facts. Sorry. support ows. vote out 1% lovin republicans

[-] 0 points by Cweiss (-8) 2 years ago

According to CBS News you are wrong:

"The National Debt has now increased more during President Obama's three years and two months in office than it did during 8 years of the George W. Bush presidency".

[-] 1 points by VQkag (930) 2 years ago

The debt is made up of each years deficit. Bush left a huge yearly deficit President Obama added very little to the yearly deficit. That you don't understand this basic concept is your misfortune. Support ows. Vote out anti 99% politicians

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 2 years ago

the national debt has been going up for a long time

every year the government runs a deficit , the national debt increases

[-] -2 points by cooperbl (-88) 2 years ago

obama created jobs? you must mean the 4000 new IRS agents hired to enforce obamacare. obama has added 5 trillion to the debt in 3 1/2 years,..........More than ALL the previous presidents combined.

[-] 3 points by VQkag (930) 2 years ago

4 of the 5 trillion came from the criminal Bush.!! Support OWS. Vote out the 1% lovin republicans

[-] -1 points by cooperbl (-88) 2 years ago

obama added 4-5 trillion to debt. thats more than ALL the other preceeding presidents, combined.

[-] -2 points by redackdid (-41) 2 years ago

I don't how else to respond to your complete lack of lucidity.

[-] 1 points by VQkag (930) 2 years ago

More insults. your a one trick pony Your inability to understand is not a result of my lack of lucidity. Perhaps you just don't want to admit that republican ideology for the last 30 years has been an utter failure. Trickle done was a scam. They got bailed out (socialism) we got scewed. Support ows. support working americans. We need each other. vote republicans out.

[-] 0 points by redackdid (-41) 2 years ago

No insult intended,but Ronaldus Magnus said it the best:

“It isn't so much that liberals are ignorant. It's just that they know so many things that aren't so.” ― Ronald Reagan

[-] 1 points by VQkag (930) 2 years ago

AAAAH HA HA HA!. Thats so funny! you should have your own show. . I guess you don't like liberals. what about conservatives you like them? and since your quoting Ronald Reagan I guess you support republicans? Do republicans support ows. support ows. support the 99% Vote out republicans..

[-] 0 points by epa1nter (4650) from Rutherford, NJ 2 years ago

He must have been looking in the mirror and got confused with his Alzheimers.

[-] -1 points by Cweiss (-8) 2 years ago

Go take care of your own local and steal their money.

[-] 2 points by epa1nter (4650) from Rutherford, NJ 2 years ago

Stealing money is certainly what the Repellicons are good at. Can you say "Halliburton"? Can you say "tax breaks for my wealthy buddies and extort it from the Middle class"?

[-] 0 points by Cweiss (-8) 2 years ago

Hey dumb fuck, Solyndra and all of the other "investments" are scandalous especially with what is happening with natural gas. But you are to stupid to realize. Halliburton was not hired as a war profiteer but as a vendor. You are to stupid to know that since all you know is how to fix a toilet.

Public employee pension plans are just that, public. They should not be engineered to help union workers. Oh I forgot you guys did the same thing with the UA plan and look what happened. Those plans have a fiduciary duty to provide pensions for their members not to keep you in a job or build a hotel with kickback in South Florida.

You are to dumb to know monetary policy. Thank goodness you are not in charge.

Don't let the facts get in the way.

[-] 1 points by epa1nter (4650) from Rutherford, NJ 2 years ago

I agree that there is a scandal with natural gas. Fracking should be banned outright. BUt that has nothing to do with Solyndra. But thanks for trying to conflate two completely unrelated companies and realities and their roles in corruption. INvesting in green energy R7D and manufacturing is precisely what the government should be doing. It should be quadrupling that investment portfolio.

And, how nice that you call Halliburton a "vendor". They just happen to be a vendor that made 1.7 billion dollars (so far) off of a WAR conveniently begun by the former chief of the company. (Yes, it was Bush, too, but Dick "Darth Vader" Cheney was its main - and most aggressive - protagonist after Bush.) The stock options Cheney retained - and lied about - throughout the war continued to rise in value as Halliburton was awarded the Iraqi contracts worth 1.7 BILLION dollars.

If it walks like a duck, shits like a duck, it is RepubliCON war profiteering corruption.

AS to monetary policy, it is you who doesn't now shit. The siphoning off of the entire economic expansion since 1980 has been so well documented that even your fuck buddy Santorum acknowledged it during the primaries.

You wouldn't know a fact if a Koch Brother smeared it in your face.

[-] -1 points by Cweiss (-8) 2 years ago

Solyndra was no theft. It was an investment in a very promising new technology that G.W Bush backed very strongly, and Obama followed through on. It was undercut by the Chinese government undercutting global prices by subsidizing there own, inferior, solar panels and selling them to the world at BELOW COST of manufacture. If we had done the same, Solyndra would be up and running. You have swallowed the right wing cum, or Cool Aid, whatever name for the lies the Republicons put out you prefer to use.

How about invading Iraq, (a country that had nothing to do with 9/11, did not have WMDs, and was KNOWN by the administration not to on both accounts) and giving billions to your Haliburton buddies, you know, the ones Cheney made his tens of millions with, (And millions more as soon as he left office and was able to reclaim his preferred stock). "I love the smell of war profiteering in the morning."

CAlpers is a pension fund, not a politician. BUt it does It function as part of the state executive branch. The wrongdoing occurred during a Republicon administration. The corruption was exposed during a Democratic one.

I do have to concede Mayor Daley. ANd not just him, but his father, too. Chicago politics has always been completely corrupt.

But the greatest theft has always been by the Republicons, ever since Ronnie "The Alzheimers Kid" Raygun, engineering the redistribution of trillions of dollars in the economy from the middle to the top for the next 30 years. Clever con men, though. They did it in broad daylight. And they convinced idiots like you that trickle down meant something other than getting pissed on. The republicon push to deregulation led to repeal of Glass/Steagal and with it the eventual collapse of the whole economy, robbing 14 million people of their jobs, and over a million and a half people their homes. What's the Republicon's solution to the disaster? More deregulation, of course! (And blame the people on food stamps.)

Mayor Daley, by comparison, is a penny ante amateur.

Using your logic regarding Solyndra the Halliburton was just a vendor completing a contract. I personally am against both.

Calpers right now forces contractors to use higher priced union employees. This is public money where there should be no favortism at all.

Nobody is due any money so your diatribe about Reagan is utter nonsense. What are you saying that the middle class can't take care of themselves and we need the government to provide services for them. This is utter nonsense about regulations. There was no regulator who can stop a bubble. Never has been, never will.

Look at what your credit card bill has done to the middle clasee. They can't get credit.

As usual you spew crap.

[-] 3 points by epa1nter (4650) from Rutherford, NJ 2 years ago

Poor little brain damaged puppy troll.

Solyndra was government investment in new technology. Same as computers and the internet. Same as the development of commercial jet aircraft. Same as the EKG and EEG. Same as mapping the human genome for medical research . And hundreds of other things that have made life better for, in some cases, billions of people. Government has always invested in infrastructure and new technologies to support or create industries that it deems important to the national interest. So far, every dollar that has been invested in R&D and infrastructure has been estimated to return 3 to 10 dollars to the economy. Solyndra was among them in a public private partnership with private investors. It represents about 0.6% of the DOE's R&D budget, and its failure was due to illegal trade practices by China, not any flaw in the technology being developed. A 0.6% investment failure rate is something any venture capitalist would cum in his pants for.

Contrast that with Halliburton, the former vice president's company. They were specifically hired by the Bush administration as war profiteers. Their profiteering directly lined the pockets of the very administration that hired them. There is ZERO point of comparison between the two entities Solyndra and Halliburton. If the first was a mistake (and it wasn't) the other is naked corruption on an international level. There is no way to twist the facts to make anything approaching an equivalence.

CALpers is a pension fund for municipal employees. In other words, it mostly invests money by or for union members. If they give preference to hiring union members to do work for the agency, more power to them. Most municipalities are required by local law to use municipal union labor for municipal work. That is at it should be. It complies with the law, and with hard-won negotiated contracts.

The 1% is not due any money. The middle class has been shafted because the wealthy bought and paid for legislation to give them more money at the expense of the poor and middle class. That's called undermining democracy. Funny how your right wing Libertardians and Republicons don't give a shit about the integrity of the democratic process. The American Revolution was fought to throw of the shackles of the British Oligarchy. For all you right winger's false and jingoistic declarations of patriotism, you support and defend the current corporate and plutocratic oligarchy. You are as pro-American as Torries.

And, FYI, the bubble did not cause the crash. Derivatives (leveraged as much as - and more - than 40 to 1) by banks did. Mortgages were used as casino gambling chips and the banksters lost their game. Only problem is they didn't have to pay up. We all did with 14 million jobs lost, 1.5 million home foreclosures, a multi-TRILLION dollar bailout using taxpayer money and more. What was the penalty to the banksters who crashed the economy via their reckless greed? Sightly smaller multi-million dollar bonuses.

As usual, you right wingers spew willful ignorance and deliberate distortions.

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[-] -1 points by Cweiss (-8) 2 years ago

Can you say Solyndra, or Calpers, or Mayor Daley.

[-] 1 points by epa1nter (4650) from Rutherford, NJ 2 years ago

Solyndra was no theft. It was an investment in a very promising new technology that G.W Bush backed very strongly, and Obama followed through on. It was undercut by the Chinese government undercutting global prices by subsidizing there own, inferior, solar panels and selling them to the world at BELOW COST of manufacture. If we had done the same, Solyndra would be up and running. You have swallowed the right wing cum, or Cool Aid, whatever name for the lies the Republicons put out you prefer to use.

How about invading Iraq, (a country that had nothing to do with 9/11, did not have WMDs, and was KNOWN by the administration not to on both accounts) and giving billions to your Haliburton buddies, you know, the ones Cheney made his tens of millions with, (And millions more as soon as he left office and was able to reclaim his preferred stock). "I love the smell of war profiteering in the morning."

CAlpers is a pension fund, not a politician. BUt it does It function as part of the state executive branch. The wrongdoing occurred during a Republicon administration. The corruption was exposed during a Democratic one.

I do have to concede Mayor Daley. ANd not just him, but his father, too. Chicago politics has always been completely corrupt.

But the greatest theft has always been by the Republicons, ever since Ronnie "The Alzheimers Kid" Raygun, engineering the redistribution of trillions of dollars in the economy from the middle to the top for the next 30 years. Clever con men, though. They did it in broad daylight. And they convinced idiots like you that trickle down meant something other than getting pissed on. The republicon push to deregulation led to repeal of Glass/Steagal and with it the eventual collapse of the whole economy, robbing 14 million people of their jobs, and over a million and a half people their homes. What's the Republicon's solution to the disaster? More deregulation, of course! (And blame the people on food stamps.)

Mayor Daley, by comparison, is a penny ante amateur.

[-] -2 points by Cweiss (-8) 2 years ago

Take your own money and go invest in renewables instead of forcing the government to do. Can you do math, obviously not since you want to invest in solar when nat gas is a fifth of the cost. Oh, but it is not your money. It's somebody else who worked hard. All you did was sit at the union hall and extort contract out of people.

That's corruption.

[-] 2 points by JackHall (413) 2 years ago

Worked hard? Worked hard at collecting inheritance, capital gains, manipulating markets, busting organized labor, and enjoying tax breaks. The real hard work has been outsourced so the 1% won't have to pay Americans a living wage. Living wage meaning can afford to live in a decent dwelling, have decent food, work 40 hours per week or less, and have affordable healthcare, transportation, education, retirement and leisure time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGXcFcneWxM

Our national treasures have been squandered by questionable wars, fraudulent governance and abuse.

[-] 0 points by epa1nter (4650) from Rutherford, NJ 2 years ago

Moron, 50% of the American public is living at or below the poverty line, and 400 people at the top own as much wealth as the bottom 150,000,000. Since 1980, there has been a 80% increase in productivity in America, and nearly ever penny resulting from that increased productivity went to the top 1% of the population while middle class wages stagnated.

All this happened because the top 1% got tax breaks, deregulation, and the ability to bribe congress to make a separate tier of laws to benefit themselves alone while disadvantaging the middle class and the poor.

Take your advise about renewables and shove it up your glib, ignorant, anti-democracy, anti-American ass.

[-] 0 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 2 years ago

we have the food to fed the people

the cost f fuel is not a back breaking issue

[-] -1 points by AntiQuisling (-2) 2 years ago

A Heads-Up For The Quislings

To "DKAtoday": What we don't know with certainty yet is who's paying you and your accomplices to subvert this forum - ostensibly for the OWS defiant - to co-opt them back into the flock of Demopublican compliant. We are painfully aware that we will never turn the lambs responsible for "99%" of the postings here into lions. But for the sake of the 1 in 100 that MIGHT raise their woolly heads, open their eyes and grow a pair, we cannot allow partisan operatives like YOU to reassure them that voting for the lesser of two corporate-controlled evils is an "exercise in democracy". You are a traitor to everything OWS stands for, "DKAtoday". And when the time is right, your protective veil of anonymity will be lifted. It was pierced several days ago. In the interim, I suggest you Google the word "Quisling".

P.S. Getting your accomplices to "ban" us once or one thousand times will change nothing.

[-] -2 points by DKAtoday (22316) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

War profiteer #1 ? I guess it's nice to know people in government.

[-] 0 points by gnomunny (6885) from St Louis, MO 2 years ago

You need to stop with the "vote Republicans out." It's clear as glass what your saying is "Vote Democrat" which is a strict no-no on this forum. Read the RULES.

[-] 1 points by VQkag (930) 2 years ago

Rules.!? What rules? we don't need no stinkin rules/

I am not saying vote any one way I believe the republicans are part of the problem. Are you a republican.?

support ows. vote republicans out.

[-] 1 points by gnomunny (6885) from St Louis, MO 2 years ago

I just re-read the forum rules. You're not pushing a particular candidate so that doesn't violate the rules. My mistake. Carry on good man (or woman, whatever the case may be). ;-)

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

The (R)epelican'ts have got to go......Teabaggerz first!

[-] 2 points by gnomunny (6885) from St Louis, MO 2 years ago

You're about to find a new friend in VQkag. But, yeah, the Reps have gotta go.

[-] 1 points by gnomunny (6885) from St Louis, MO 2 years ago

I'm serious. You'll get banned if you keep doing it. The rules are on the forum page. Obviously you haven't read them even though you've been here since October.

BTW, I'm not a moderator. I'm not a Repub. OWS is supposed to be party-neutral.

[-] 1 points by epa1nter (4650) from Rutherford, NJ 2 years ago

"OWS is supposed to be party-neutral."

Sorry, that's a bit disingenuous. Bashing both parties equally, as many, many have done here, in the context of a left-leaning site only has the effect of splitting the vote on the left, since that's mostly who's here. In the context of a general political site equal opportunity political party bashing is even-handed, but not in this particular context.

So although I agree with you in principle, in practice it works out very differently.

[-] 1 points by VQkag (930) 2 years ago

I am not campaigning for anyone. I am not saying vote democratic. What have I done wrong? Are you the police? who are you anyway.? are you sure your not a republican? I haven't seen you come down on the anti democratic posters. I am registered ind. I have voted both ways and I have opinions. I don't see which rule I broke if you know please educate me.

[-] 1 points by gnomunny (6885) from St Louis, MO 2 years ago

Just trying to get you to tone it down a little. Don't want anyone who happens to be pro-OWS, like you seem to be, to get banned, that's all. You are correct, though. Just because you say vote out reps, that doesn't automatically mean vote dem. My mistake.

[-] 4 points by VQkag (930) 2 years ago

Tone it down/ I've been called horrible names today. Are you gonna ask them to tone it down? I've seen abusive insults from republican leaning trolls towards other people as well. are there rules against vulgarity and constant insults? are you only enforcing rules on anti republican posts?. Because I haven't insulted anyone. I don't have to tone anything down. Sounds like you don't like me telling it like it is.

[-] 1 points by GypsyKing (8719) 2 years ago

Reply to VQkag Below:

You tell um man! They can spew the foulest garbage imaginable at us, (and I'm not aiming this at gomunny) and then try to act as though it were us that are getting beyong the pale where we just tell it like it is!

I'm tired of being "nice" to these scumbags, you just keep on telling it like you see it, and don't get rattled by this shit!

I had some SOB telling me today that I had to "humble myself." Well guess what . . . fuck him!

[-] 1 points by VQkag (930) 2 years ago

You haven't answered my questions troll police.

Did you say you supported republicans?

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[-] 0 points by Cweiss (-8) 2 years ago

Your kidding right, this is nothing but a front for Obama. Grow up.

[-] 1 points by gnomunny (6885) from St Louis, MO 2 years ago

You obviously are very selective about which posts you read. You must be missing all the anti-Obama comments on this forum. If you don't what's going on after being here three and a half months, no amount of talk from me will open your eyes.

[-] -1 points by mossom (1) 2 years ago

The Republicans are the party of evil, the Democrats are their enablers.

[-] 1 points by gnomunny (6885) from St Louis, MO 2 years ago

That's one way to put it!

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[-] -2 points by cooperbl (-88) 2 years ago

for the first 2 years of obamas presidency, both the house and the senate were democrat controlled. the republican majority , voted in nov 2010 has been trying to stop this nightmare administration. The repulican congress has submitted a budget , harry reid ( dem) has refuse a vote on it in the senate. obamas budget was down by ALL the democrats in the senate.

[-] 3 points by VQkag (930) 2 years ago

For the 1st 2 years (and ever since) the repub have obstructed most Dem agenda with unreasonable filibuster. It is because of their intransigence that we don't have another 4 million jobs. They don't care about improving the economy, they simply want serve the 1%. Support OWS. Vote out the tax cuts for wealthy supporting republicans

[-] 0 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 2 years ago

If she is a prominent Democrat, then she is right in the thick of the corruption. I dont think she is yet, but it seems to be where she wants to go.

[-] 2 points by VQkag (930) 2 years ago

The Dems can be made to serve the 99%. The repubs are too far gone. Warren will be a good soldier as she has been when she worked for our President setting up the consumer protection agency and while the repubs fought her every inch of the way and prevented her from becoming its 1st head.

[-] 1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 2 years ago

I think Obama's current bombing of the middle east and africa show they are willing to do anything for money.

They could have voted the oil subsidies down, and didnt. They could have reinstated Glass Steagall, they didnt. They could have repealed Bush cuts, they didnt. They could propose meaningful change, they wont.

Im not sure how anyone supports either of these corrupted disasters anymore?

People, including Republicans, forget- in DC, no one cares what your letter is, as long as its a D or an R, you are part of the club. We arent.

[-] 1 points by VQkag (930) 2 years ago

The repubs obstructed all those things. Dems can be made to serve us. Repubs R too far gone,

[-] 0 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 2 years ago

They have you fully fooled into their little scam....

[-] 2 points by VQkag (930) 2 years ago

I want to make Dems change and serve the 99%. What am I fooled about?

If you think the repubs haven't obstructed all these items perhaps you've been fooled. In any event you haven't fooled me as to your repub leanings. Support ows. they are our only hope.

[-] 1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 2 years ago

I'm am, constantly. I actually go and help out.

I do think the R makes it tough, but its all just a show. Its just a charade to keep you believing that "if only you could get the R out, the D would come around"....

Incase you havent noticed, they have fooled the other half into thinking "If only we could get the D out, we could regain the republican party"...

If both sides using the same tricks isnt enough for you to realize you are being played, then Im not sure what ever will. Maybe nothing will.

[-] 3 points by VQkag (930) 2 years ago

One party is hated by big oil and big finance the other is loved. One side is against gays and minorities the other is not. One side helps union workers the other demonizes them. One side wants a clean environment and alternative energy the other doesn't. Its as simple as that. Dems are weak, they need constant pressure, constant protests, but THEY can be made to serve the 99%. The repubs are too far gone. You don't see that.? You just want to keep people from voting at all right?

[-] 0 points by JackPulliam3rd (205) 2 years ago

so what you are trying to say in all your posts is that the Repubs are too far gone? am I getting that right?

[-] 3 points by VQkag (930) 2 years ago

Nothing gets by you.

[-] 0 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 2 years ago

The D vs R thing has been going on for over 10o years. Its a game.

Real revolutions dont listen to the GOVERNMENT.

[-] 3 points by VQkag (930) 2 years ago

But in that time the R changed from progressive to right wing wacko. The D's from racist to progressive. Things can change. And we can capture the dems for the 99%. the repub are too .................. aw you know.

[-] -1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 2 years ago

The consumer protection agency is a joke. Go read some labels on your food. Or look at gas mileage. Or look at your credit card statements and bank statements.

That agency has done nothing big, just like everyhting else that DC touches.

[-] 2 points by VQkag (930) 2 years ago

It only just began. The credit card corps hate it so thats enough for. They are afraid for a reason. I will stand with the consumers (99%) You can stand with the Credit card companies (1%). You say you hate both parties but consistently support repub positions.

[-] 1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 2 years ago

Why would saying that the Consumer Protection Agency is a total wimp operation mean Im in support of Republicans?

I WANT REAL CHOICES. I dont want shit in my food. I want choices in my energy. I dont want credit cards that lobby weak men and women for regulations that they then pass on down to me, and charge me for it.

Wipe these fake little operations out, and replace them with PEOPLE WITH BALLS.

[-] 2 points by VQkag (930) 2 years ago

Because you parrot the repub position this agency. Don't be ashamed. Embrace it. Admitting you have a problem is the 1st step. We are here for you. Come over from the dark side. Support ows.

[-] 0 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 2 years ago

Really? Republicans say these agencies arent doing their job, and we need better enforcement? We might not want to put lobbyists into enforcement positions? Thats what Republicans say?

Thats a new one, I havent heard that one yet.

[-] 2 points by VQkag (930) 2 years ago

that doesn't make sense. but....... The repubs fought this agency for the last 2 years. We had to put in the head as a recess appointment. I guess you don't know as much as pretend to.

[-] -1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 2 years ago

No one said the Republicans didnt fight the agency. Where are you getting this from?

The Republicans fight it, the Dems defend it, and meanwhile they both allow the corporations to go further into the toilet. Here's a list of oil company donations in the Senate. Yes, the R gets more. But let me ask you;

If you were running for office, would you accept ONE FUCKIN PENNY from an oil company?

I wouldnt.

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2012/03/29/454853/senators-who-voted-to-protect-oil-tax-breaks-received-23582500-from-big-oil/

[-] 4 points by VQkag (930) 2 years ago

language.!

Who cares how the donations go. One party is hated by big oil one is loved. We don't have to complicate things. And just to be clear the dem senator from Louisiana is in the pocket of big oil, but as a party big oil hates the dems. loves the repubs. period end of story. Got it?

[-] 0 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 2 years ago

Its frustrating, because people like you dont allow those of us in OWS to get change, because not only are we fighting the 1%, we are also fighting the media's brainwashing of the people.

Why do the oil companies donate billions to Dems? And why do Dems accept it? Same for Banking and every other big lobby.

Would you accept money from an oil company?

[-] 0 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 2 years ago

Follow the money, junior. Your unwillingness to judge these people by their actions is very typical in American politics these days. Big oil funds both of them, nothing has ever changed for big oil, regardless of which party has the power. Nothing.

Big oil, along with Insurance and Banking, could care less about these two parties. They run them, plain and simple. Why you think we are still bombing Africa and ME? Oil. Got it. Wake up.

[-] 3 points by VQkag (930) 2 years ago

Junior./ I must be winning, if you are getting condescending and disrespectful. Big oil hates the Dems. They are afraid of cap n trade and alt energy and losing their billions in subsidies. They hate the Dems so it is clear the Dems can be made to serve the 99% the repub are too far gone. Believe it. Support ows

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (5968) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

never a harsh word for the Rs though they can count on you

[-] 2 points by VQkag (930) 2 years ago

Whatever, shes got the right enemies. big wall st financials corps are scared out of there minds. that should be enough for us. Vote Warren. Support ows.

[-] -3 points by cooperbl (-88) 2 years ago

She will work hard for the obama agenda of destroying America as it was founded.

[-] 3 points by VQkag (930) 2 years ago

She will work hard for consumers thats why big finance and their republican tools hate her. Support OWS. Vote out big wall st lovin republicans

[-] 0 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 2 years ago

Fact is, on at least one occasion a high-ranking European considered infecting the Indians with smallpox as a tactic of war. I'm talking about Lord Jeffrey Amherst, commander of British forces in North America during the French and Indian War (1756-'63). Amherst and a subordinate discussed, apparently seriously, sending infected blankets to hostile tribes. What's more, we've got the documents to prove it, thanks to the enterprising research of Peter d'Errico, legal studies professor at the University of Massachusetts at (fittingly) Amherst. D'Errico slogged through hundreds of reels of microfilmed correspondence looking for the smoking gun, and he found it.

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1088/did-whites-ever-give-native-americans-blankets-infected-with-smallpox

thanks Cecil

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[-] 2 points by GypsyKing (8719) 2 years ago

There are some people who will vote based on the issues, surprizing as that may seem to you.

[-] 2 points by GypsyKing (8719) 2 years ago

This post is racist, plain and simple.

[-] 0 points by Cweiss (-8) 2 years ago

She's the one who brought it up to get herself some advantage.

[-] 2 points by GypsyKing (8719) 2 years ago

Advantage?

[-] 0 points by Cweiss (-8) 2 years ago

Easy, she classified herself as a minority which helped her in hiring and in garnering contracts for her institutions. She is not dumb and knows how the game is played.

[-] 2 points by GypsyKing (8719) 2 years ago

I never realized it was an advantage in this country to claim Native American heritage. But in any case, her postion on the issues is so much better than her opponent's that I would preffer her even if she claimed to be an alien from the planet Balthazar with a speech impediment.

[-] -1 points by Cweiss (-8) 2 years ago

So you want to be unfair and tilt the rules to help you.

[-] 3 points by GypsyKing (8719) 2 years ago

I'm afraid the 1% and their puppet party, the Republicans, have a virtual monopoly on that market.

[-] 0 points by Cweiss (-8) 2 years ago

Well Warren us a democrat so don't let the facts get in your way.

[-] 1 points by GypsyKing (8719) 2 years ago

Facts . . . you wouldn't know the facts if they bit you in the ass.

[-] 0 points by Cweiss (-8) 2 years ago

Okay, Donut King.

[-] 1 points by stevebol (1269) from Milwaukee, WI 2 years ago

I'm voting for Roseanne Barr because.... I can't think of anyone else.

[-] 2 points by GypsyKing (8719) 2 years ago

How obvious do these people need to make their troll tactic for today, and tomorrow:

"Don't vote - divide the left."

It's as plain as the nose on their faces.

[-] 0 points by Krowell (-69) 2 years ago

Loosen up Donut King, you have to admit its pretty funny.

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (5968) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

I hate to be racist about it, but truth is pretty much all the Cherokees I’ve known were really decent people.

[-] 1 points by TruthRightsFreedom (259) 2 years ago

Indigenous Americans have deeply human principles that control their societies. Americans can benefit massively by examining those principles because they also are the foundation of the US Constitution.

http://www.ratical.org/many_worlds/6Nations/

"On June 11, 1776 while the question of independence was being debated, the visiting Iroquois chiefs were formally invited into the meeting hall of the Continental Congress. There a speech was delivered, in which they were addressed as "Brothers" and told of the delegates' wish that the "friendship" between them would "continue as long as the sun shall shine" and the "waters run." The speech also expressed the hope that the new Americans and the Iroquois act "as one people, and have but one heart."[18] After this speech, an Onondaga chief requested permission to give Hancock an Indian name. The Congress graciously consented, and so the president was renamed "Karanduawn, or the Great Tree." With the Iroquois chiefs inside the halls of Congress on the eve of American Independence, the impact of Iroquois ideas on the founders is unmistakable. History is indebted to Charles Thomson, an adopted Delaware, whose knowledge of and respect for American Indians is reflected in the attention that he gave to this ceremony in the records of the Continental Congress.[19] Artwork by John Kahionhes Fadden."

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (5968) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

Thank you for the link, a while back I was looking for material on the religious beliefs of indigenous peoples of the world, the older the better, if you happen to know where I might look, I would appreciate it, but thank you for this one I'm sure as I look through it I will get some ideals.

[-] 1 points by TruthRightsFreedom (259) 2 years ago

It turns out they had a natural religion that acknowledged the unconscious existence. Here is a graphic showing that our unconscious existence is 7 times greater than this conscious one, and compeltely uninteruppted.

http://i41.tinypic.com/a15nx3.jpg

I found that link here a few weeks ago posted by one of the people working for Article V.

Here is a site that gets down to the nuts and bolts of it. We are missing a bunch of knowledge about that natural religion. The videos linked here are mind boggling. That this can have happened and no one talks about , it shows something about how our unconscious mind is in control.

http://algoxy.com/miskno

[-] 1 points by Dgoerz (20) 2 years ago

I'm with you on this one. She learned her ancestry from her great great great grandmother Pohchontas.

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[-] 0 points by PeterKropotkin (1050) from Oakland, CA 2 years ago

She don't look like a Cherokee.

[-] 0 points by Skippy2 (485) 2 years ago

I thought she was Eskimo? WTF?

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[-] -1 points by redackdid (-41) 2 years ago

"Half Breed"

My father married a pure Cherokee My mother's people were ashamed of me The indians said I was white by law The White Man always called me "Indian Squaw"

[CHORUS:] Half-breed, that's all I ever heard Half-breed, how I learned to hate the word Half-breed, she's no good they warned Both sides were against me since the day I was born

We never settled, went from town to town When you're not welcome you don't hang around The other children always laughed at me "Give her a feather, she's a Cherokee"

[Repeat Chorus]

We weren't accepted and I felt ashamed Nineteen I left them, tell me who's to blame My life since then has been from man to man But I can't run away from what I am

[Repeat chorus]