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Forum Post: I'm not saying occupy Wall Street is Shit...

Posted 6 years ago on March 5, 2012, 2:16 p.m. EST by jplarocket (1)
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I’m not saying Occupy Wallstreet is shit…. I’m just wondering if there’s a coherent objective behind all of it? I do know that there is long list of grievances motivating it. Money controls everything in this country and most of the money is in the hands of an obscenely small fraction of our society. The ramifications of this are frightening. Right now many people are struggling just to survive, yet those who have the power and wealth to help lack the urge to do so. The damage these people have done is astounding, and as long as they hold all the wealth, the middle class will continue to dwindle and the long term damage will keep growing. Though our country fervently celebrates democracy it is all too obvious that under these circumstances we are living under an oligarchy. Yet what solutions does Occupy Wallstreet present?

The entire protest is just a sustained demonstration of how ineffectual our society has become. Somehow these fools got it into their heads that the means for solving all the problems inherent in our very much broken sociopolitical system lie within that very system. Playing politics is a colossal waste of time. Our legislature has been irreversibly corrupted by greed. Money is the biggest problem in politics, but the only way that is ever going to change is if enough money is spent pushing for money to be taken out of politics, so government is basically a farce.

As there are no viable options for progress within the democratic process, Occupy Wallstreet has to rely on the great guardian of democracy, the media. Sadly, this option requires that in order for the media to provide them any coverage, they must allow themselves to be portrayed as the annoying dropouts suffering from dementia that we’ve all come to know and pity. The protestors seem to hope that through this shit show they can inspire a logical discourse that will change hearts and minds and then the people will gather a sing a great song causing the hearts of the 1% to grow three time larger. They believe in the power of peaceful protest, ignorant of the problem that that does not work anymore. The powerful have grown immune to peaceful protest. The rich are not afraid of large mobs of the unwashed masses chanting to the discordant beat of bongos. They are not afraid of symbolic gestures. They are afraid of large mobs of angry citizens declaring war on their corrupt way of life. They are afraid of riots. They are afraid of the chaos that people can bring into their lives.

Occupy Wallstreet cannot achieve anything because they have no idea what a genuine victory would actually entail. This is not a problem exclusive to the Occupy Wallstreet movement. There is a long history of movements accepting simple acknowledgement as some great victory. People talk about change, but then accept that change doesn’t happen, comfortable in the fact that people know change is necessary. So what is the point of these protests? Now we know that most of the wealth in this country is possessed by 1% of the population. Now we know that it is a problem. Now we know that a lot of people agree it is a problem. And now we know that nobody is doing anything substantive to fix the problem. Well done. I’m assuming that’s what you’ve been waiting for, somebody to tell you you’ve done something good and meaningful, even though you’ve done nothing. So well done, you’ve been acknowledged. Now do something because this shit got boring a long time ago.

See the rest of the commentary on the website at the top... Just Sayin'



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[-] 3 points by tbuontempo (194) from Jersey City, NJ 6 years ago

The Visions and Goals Working Group is still working out the goals of the Movement.

Nothing will be accomplished within the context of the current system.

So forget the media, they are not even beginning to cover what the movement is doing. If you are not in NYC, you have no idea of the actions taken place on a daily basis.

The struggle to get rid of the power structure will be long term. If you think change will be done in one election, vote for Obama. If you think in terms of generations, work within OWS.

We are going to be here for a very long time.

As for the fear of the established order, the Capitalists are scared shitless. Look at the Soviet style laws they have passed in a futile attempt to stop the Occupations.

The ruling class of this country is a violent house of cards.

[-] 2 points by ithink (761) from York, PA 6 years ago

Nothing is happening and nothing will happen. So stop sitting around waiting for someone else to do something. This isn't a fucking observation sport. It's life. Now do something. Don't be afraid to get your hands dirty.

[-] -1 points by hdean (-29) 6 years ago

You make a good point. One can hardly make something useful out of 'shit', even when great time is involved, in the geologic sense, maybe in the long term shit can become coal or oil.

In the short-term OWS will re-elect Obama, ... at least that is the Public Union/DNC plan.

In the long term nobody fucking cares, ...


[-] 0 points by Kite (79) 6 years ago

Little that is coherent comes out of OWS.

Camping on granite, banging on drums, shouting nonsense in the street...... It's all nothing.

[-] 0 points by SmeggitySpooge (78) 6 years ago

It' simple, vote out all the republicans and vote in all democrats.

I will now share with you a personal experience I had with the Lord and our God, Jehovah.

The Lord God saith to Smeggity, enter this land and find me just one good man.

I came back with every Democrat in this nation.

The Lord God was pleased even though he said they are every bit as likely to be corrupt as republicans.

Yet, he was none-the-less pleased.

Now how much more incontrovertible and irrefutable proof do ye require?

[-] -1 points by DevilDog420 (133) from Saratoga Springs, NY 6 years ago

A Wiseguy once told me...don't just stand there, do something, do something even if it wrong...

[-] -3 points by DayumShame (148) 6 years ago


Your comments have been duly noted, but OWS is shit and there is nothing you can do about it. Now go fu-- ... I mean, go occupy something.

[-] -1 points by hdean (-29) 6 years ago

You make a good point. One can hardly make something useful out of 'shit', even when great time is involved, in the geologic sense, maybe in the long term shit can become coal or oil.

In the short-term OWS will re-elect Obama, ... at least that is the Public Union/DNC plan.

In the long term nobody fucking cares, ...