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Forum Post: If you don't like the Supreme Court ruling, win the vote

Posted 3 months ago on April 4, 2014, 3:21 p.m. EST by puff6964 (-33)
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Our reality is that if we don't like the Supreme Court ruling, then we need to win the vote and right now from where I sit we are not. The economy is not doing well and people are turning away from our argument. We need new ideas?



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[-] 4 points by pigeonlady (125) from Brooklyn, NY 3 months ago

When Occupy first hit the scene everyone had a cohesive group, visible and accessible, to support, rally around, and contribute to, either food, clothes, money, or time and their physical presence with firm objectives in mind and actions that displayed the dissatisfaction we have with the systemic corruption that is a hallmark of our times. We need that presence in the park, if even modified. We need to do more than hang out at that damn atrium, where it looks like the atmosphere sedates, and the bathrooms are a wreck. We need to talk to the people, the many whose lives are affected but looked to us as the personification of their aspirations and discouragements only to feel let down on yet another front; when we defract further into groups for special interests it saps the Occupy spirit, and consumes the time those individuals would use to espouse the wants and needs of the 99%. We are all those groups, and more. Do we really need to be bogged down in meetings for nothing, with no objective or result except as support groups? Given the universal acceptance we espouse there should be less need to split Occupiers into so many splinter factions. We're all on the same train and trying to go to the same place, and I'm riding coach. How about you? So let's go back to Square One where the group had so much going it made Bloomy wet his Depends and Kelly had to tell everyone their jobs depended on evicting us. I've been evicted too. Being mobile has advantages and it's time to move. Let's go, kids!

[-] 2 points by JGriff99mph (507) 3 months ago

When we have entered a time where our options are to vote for the corrupted in order to fix the corrupted, we are officially incapable of running our world ourselves .

All of our answers are right in our own control, we are just trained to give that control to the machine.

Each one teach one is about all you can do. Be active, suggest new things, participate in things when you are available.

[-] 2 points by ZenDog (13719) from South Burlington, VT 3 months ago

what we need is a fukin purge - these goddamned Koch sucking conservatives have got to go. They don't need to breed, they don't need to breathe. They need to just stop. Now.

So did Dick Cheney's shadow government ever get put back in it's box? I'll bet not. Let that become the foundation of their demise. Examine the data, examine the historical context, evaluate the impact of conservative policy on our own society, evaluate its impact on the societies where it has grown and become entrenched throughout history.

Then let us do what we must. Eliminate these unAmerican traitorous scum from among us. Cut them off. Remove their feet from the necks of our people and their seed from our land. Let us find the means to be done with them forever more.



[-] -1 points by puff6964 (-33) 3 months ago

Let's get real, Bush, Cheney, and Koch have nothing to do with our current government and the economy. We are losing the vote with this Obamacare fiasco and people are making less. We need new economic ideas to get people back to work.

[-] 0 points by ZenDog (13719) from South Burlington, VT 3 months ago

unfortunately the ideas that actually work at getting people back to work - while at the same time upgrading our infrastructure for instance - have been repeatedly nixed in an effort to undermine support for the duly elected President and the party with which he is affiliated.

It's quite amazing really, that these efforts have not resulted in much greater public backlash than they have to date.



it's really fukin surreal - they just don't understand that when more people have more money they spend more money and everybody makes more money - they don't care about any of that and will not raise the minimum wage, they won't fix bridges, they ain't doin nothing unless it means buying more arms

[-] 1 points by puff6964 (-33) 3 months ago

The President doesn't have the juice to get his ideas passed. Putin is absolutely laughing at him with his "there will be consequences" comments. I am worried, he has lost all respect from the public and I don't think blaming Bush has any traction.

[-] 0 points by ZenDog (13719) from South Burlington, VT 3 months ago

he has lost all respect from the public

I wouldn't go that far. His polling numbers - if they mean anything - average 43.4 approval for the month 3/26 - 4/27 here

compare that with Bush whose second term average was 37%.

Compare that with the success of Global Warming Denialism and we can very clearly see this is simply the success of the repelican propaganda machine. This Graph shows the rise and fall of opinion, with a most recent high mid 2007 to a bottom early in 2011. The pendulum is I'm sure swinging the other way just because of the weather itself - and while future polls may reflect some short term change due to the severity of the Winter season in the U.S. this year, that will be a temporary bump in the road.

[-] 1 points by donniec13 (5) from Mercersburg, PA 3 months ago

As long as people are watching crap like honey booboo, or other reality tv trash, you'll never have the muscle to remove these monsters from their perch.
Lie down and die already...or get off your asses and make noise in your own neighborhoods! drown out the tv's, bang on the doors, scream in some faces!!!!

Here's an idea, if money is speech, then hold it from taxes, plead the fifth with your money!! If money laundering is illegal, then how about editing my language? then money laundering is legal, i'm just editing my language, right? If stealing is illegal, then how about pleading the fifth about merchandise? stealing is then legal, I'm just pleading the fifth.

Gotta make this stupid way of thinking about money blow up in Judges Faces

[-] 1 points by JGriff99mph (507) 3 months ago

I have no desire for corrupted judges sitting thousands of miles away making rules for me.