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Forum Post: If the “Occupy” Movement and the Real Tea Party Join Together, We Can End the Malignant Partnership Between Big Government and Big Corporations Which Is Destroying America

Posted 6 years ago on Oct. 20, 2011, 7:56 p.m. EST by MonetizingDiscontent (1257)
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If the “Occupy” Movement and the Real Tea Party Join Together, We Can End the Malignant Partnership Between Big Government and Big Corporations Which Is Destroying America


I'm with neither of these groups but they seem to have less tolerance of each other than they do the powers ruling over them, amused.

(99% ...right?)



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[-] 2 points by mgiddin1 (1057) from Linthicum, MD 6 years ago

Yes, I totally agree. Many on this forum seem more intent on insulting other people's ideology than on facing the true culprit (Washington) and joining to end our mutual oppression.

[-] 1 points by andrewfelluss (1) 6 years ago

*Zinn on the “national interest”:

A careful reading of history might give us another safeguard against being deceived. It would make clear that there has always been, and is today, a profound conflict of interest between the government and the people of the United States. This thought startles most people, because it goes against everything we have been taught….

Our culture demands, in its very language, that we accept a commonality of interest binding all of us to one another. We mustn’t talk about classes. Only Marxists do that, although James Madison, “Father of the Constitution,” said, 30 years before Marx was born that there was an inevitable conflict in society between those who had property and those who did not.

Our present leaders are not so candid. They bombard us with phrases like “national interest,” “national security,” and “national defense” as if all of these concepts applied equally to all of us, colored or white, rich or poor, as if General Motors and Halliburton have the same interests as the rest of us, as if George Bush has the same interest as the young man or woman he sends to war.

Surely, in the history of lies told to the population, this is the biggest lie. In the history of secrets, withheld from the American people, this is the biggest secret: that there are classes with different interests in this country. To ignore that — not to know that the history of our country is a history of slaveowner against slave, landlord against tenant, corporation against worker, rich against poor — is to render us helpless before all the lesser lies told to us by people in power.

If we as citizens start out with an understanding that these people up there — the President, the Congress, the Supreme Court, all those institutions pretending to be “checks and balances” — do not have our interests at heart, we are on a course towards the truth.

[-] 1 points by fbush (11) 6 years ago

The dirt baggers need to break big gov

[-] 1 points by Vegas2121 (5) 6 years ago

I completely agree, the actual Tea Party (not the abomination that currently calls itself the Tea party while being completely co-opted by the Republican party) is with us on the most important issue: Ending government corruption through lobbyists and campaign funding. WE NEED TO UNITE. Until we can reclaim the power of the vote, small difference such as universal healthcare and the like are literally moot points. Without any actual voice such concerns are pointless.

[-] 1 points by OWSProtestor (25) 6 years ago

Hating Ben Bernanke, Ending the Fed and worshiping Ron Paul is specific to the Ron Paul robots trying to co-opt the Occupy Wall Street movement. http://www.obamaftw.com/blog/the-federal-reserve/blame-game-end-the-fed-gold-standard http://www.obamaftw.com/blog/ron-paul/ron-paul-2012-ron-paul-economy

[-] 1 points by MonetizingDiscontent (1257) 6 years ago

I have a problem with Ben's Monetary policy. Im sure he's a swell guy and all. Its not personal, for me at least. Oh, and I worship no man, just so that you realize.

You're reply is very aggressive, hostile even perhaps ..yawn.. Read your own reply here. Who's hating?

[-] 1 points by OWSProtestor (25) 6 years ago

The link you posted contains an image that includes hating Ben Bernanke.


Mind you, there is plenty to criticize about Ben Bernanke (he should have moved faster on this), but hindsight is 20/20 and criticism and hatred are not one in the same.

[-] 1 points by MonetizingDiscontent (1257) 6 years ago

Yes, nods. It does say that, and I agree that it shouldn't be personal. But I feel that if you read the article the point can be seen clearly despite a very bad choice of words. Its an article that i feel has some merit.

Replace that with "Hate Bens Monetary Policy" Your point is well taken OWS Protestor and I salute you for making that point, specifically.

On the other hand, understand these Ron Paul people's Tea Party got co-opted. They are frustrated. The media isn't at all fair with Ron Paul on either side of the fence as well. Cut them some slack, when its warranted. Acknowledge they have some very valid grievances within a true 99% aimed in the same direction as OWS. At corrupt governments and corrupt private corporations/institutions That sounds like the makings of a beautiful partnership to me.

Power to the Peaceful

[-] 1 points by bethechange2012 (54) from New York, NY 6 years ago

I agree. As soon as people stop bickering at each other I think we'll realize that we have a lot in common. We both recognize the problem; it just seems like both sides have very different solutions. Either way, the problem persists and here we are just shooting each other down for not believing what we do. I think uniting the two movements is a great idea. Americans are Americans--the 99%.

[-] 1 points by MonetizingDiscontent (1257) 6 years ago

And, you are mistaken

[-] 1 points by MonetizingDiscontent (1257) 6 years ago

You know nothing about me.