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Forum Post: "If it saves one life, it's worth it"

Posted 6 years ago on May 24, 2012, 10:16 p.m. EST by CarlosFenito (36)
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Is this statement universally true?



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[-] 1 points by JPB950 (2254) 6 years ago

I would say that depends on what the "it" is that you're doing. Stop and frisk probably saves a life or two (or maybe just prolongs one life for a few days) by getting some guns and people willing to use them off the street. Is it worth the loss of civil rights? Ban the use of the automobile, you would save lives. Few will agree it's worth it. Most of us have answered your question with No!

[-] 1 points by junglemonkeez (208) 6 years ago

Depends on which life you save!

[-] 1 points by XenuLives (1645) from Charlotte, NC 6 years ago

All life is equal. We're all humans. I agree with JPB's point.

[-] 0 points by 22250flatshot (-18) 6 years ago

Interesting question. I think an individual has to try to save whatever life he can. However, society has to pick and choose the lives they save.

Example: If we are going to have a public option universal healthcare system, some lives will be worth more than others. A 78 yearold with terminal cancer has to be seen as worth less than a 14 year old with leukemia.

Of course dreamers here will say "Save every life, all lives are precious!" but in fact they are not. Spending $450000 to treat cancer in an 80 year old means no vaccinations for 1 million children. We live in a world with limits, we live in a finaite world and recognizing that it is finite is the first step to creating a real society.Right now our medical wants are infinite and that wont work.

And please, dont reply "in a just society we should be able to do both!" Thats a completely intellectually dishonest position. You may feel good typing it here but you are being dishonest. Everyone dies and triaging the more valuable lives from the less valuable lives must be confronted.


[-] 0 points by Shule (2638) 6 years ago

Saving George Bush, Dick Cheney, Rumsfeld? I don't think so.

[-] 1 points by CarlosFenito (36) 6 years ago

No, I mean one random life.

[-] 1 points by Shule (2638) 6 years ago

I'd like to think so, but unfortunately, probably not. JPB950 makes an interesting comment below.

By the way, ever listen to that new "hip" song that's been going around on the radio, "Pumped up Kicks?"

[-] 2 points by CarlosFenito (36) 6 years ago


I heard a new song by your grandchildren called "Help I Owe My Soul To The Chinese (Thanks Gramps)"

[-] 1 points by Shule (2638) 6 years ago

Check out the song. It's about shooting up kids at the High School. Real popular tune. All the young people are in to it.........

[-] 0 points by CarlosFenito (36) 6 years ago

"All" the young people?

Gosh, that sounds offensive. That, along with the demograph descriptor, is akin to saying "All the black people are doing powder". I find it offensive.

[-] 1 points by Shule (2638) 6 years ago

Pardon my grammar; permit me to rephrase, "Many young people......"

[-] 1 points by CarlosFenito (36) 6 years ago

That brings another interesting point to mind, does this type of thing permit infringement upon the free speech rights of music artists any more than it permits infringement upon the second amendment rights of random people?

[-] 1 points by Shule (2638) 6 years ago

Don't quite know how to answer that. But it brings up many interesting points. One I'm concerned about is what kind of society have we created for our young people to grow up in?

[-] 0 points by CarlosFenito (36) 6 years ago

That's the thing, too many people think that the government should be involved in society or try to shape it in any way. I disagree. I say let society do its own thing and punish individuals that hurt others.

[-] 1 points by Shule (2638) 6 years ago

So, without a government who will do the punishing? Hopefully, your not advocating vigilantism. Who punishes those individuals who are out to shape society in hurting ways?


[-] 0 points by SteveKJR (-497) 6 years ago

No, because there are a lot of people in this world who don't value life. Look at the crime rate across the world and then you will understand.


[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 years ago

Sounds good to me, but I've been bot attacked, and might be accused of being a plant if I agree with it.........:)

[-] 2 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 6 years ago
[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 years ago

That reminds me, I have to plant some flowers tomorrow...........:)

They're still in their cheesy little store boxes.

They'll give me something to take pictures of when the wind dies down.