Forum Post: I need clarification on tax increase information

Posted 12 years ago on Oct. 4, 2011, 2:09 p.m. EST by curious7981 (6)
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Is this movement pushing for tax increases on the rich/corporations? I'm not saying that is the wrong solution but I do have on thing to point out, which makes me a bit skeptical to support this movement. If we tax the rich/corps more then doesn't that put more money into our Government's pockets? And aren't they the greedy ones also? It seems to me there is no difference between big corps and the Government. It seems there should be some accountability on the part of the Gov't for how they could let this happen to us. I can't back a protest that is going to play right into the hands of what the Gov't wants us to do to benefit them and continue to oppress us.

There seems to be some validity in the naysayers who point out that this is what they want - they want us to protest so they can implement martial law and from there who knows. I'm not one to go with extreme ideals here but it's a valid concern. I certainly do not want martial law and to see us become a Tyranny.

On another note. I agree with ending The Fed because they seem to be part of the problem and it seems that our Gov't can't control what they do. They are a powerhouse that seems to be untouchable.

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[-] 2 points by emanonman (36) from Lahaina, HI 12 years ago

Friend, don't buy into that Ronald Reagan stuff - "the government is not the solution, the government is the problem."

WE ARE the government. It is by, for, and of, the people. What Reagan was actually saying was that the people are the problem.

Now, maybe its a little out of whack right now, but if the government is starved of cash, there's no one left, nothing left, for people to participate in.

As for taxes, in the 1950s corporate and high earner individual taxes were high compared with today. And during those years, we (that is, the government) built schools, hospitals, the Interstate Highway system, and on and on.

Then came the original tax cutters, and all the money that had been going to projects went into private hands. And what did they do? Stock markets took off; speculation on commodities like food happened for the first time ;and within 20 years "derivatives" made their appearance.

What I'm saying is that in the hands of government, money may be used for good - depending on how involved we are and how much we restrict lobbying and undue influence (which is what this protest is partly about). OR money can go back into the hands of the wealthy and corporations for them to do what they want to do with it with absolutely NO input from us. That's a "Corporate Daddy Knows Best" that I, for one, am not interested in.

The money will get raised. The economy generates hundreds of billions of tax dollars year after year. The question is: Who do you want to have it? Guys who invent credit default swaps to make even more money, or government which is the only hope for Headstart?

We are the government. Hating it is hating us.