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Forum Post: I have a solution to the problem! Look!

Posted 11 years ago on March 5, 2013, 2:32 p.m. EST by solvetheproblem (0)
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I've been reading the posts and none of the ideas will ever solve the problem of the wealth gap. How about a corporation or thousands of corporations that are formed to actually help their employees?

One goal would be to pay the lowest level employees a wage that is adequate to pay for decent housing, food, clothing, entertainment, savings, transportation, healthcare etc.

How many people would shop at a company that publicly declares its committment to paying its lowest level employees a wage that would do all of the above and more?



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[-] 2 points by clearsimpletruths (-204) 11 years ago

Why not simply create COOPs where everyone works together and is paid the same. Embrace anarcho-syndicalism.

[-] 2 points by gsw (3411) from Woodbridge Township, NJ 11 years ago

We better get on this soon

Income inequality in America is at levels even higher than those in ancient Rome, according to a recent study from two historians, Walter Schiedel and Steven Friesen, cited by Per Square Mile. After analyzing papyri ledgers, biblical passages and other previous scholarly estimates, the researchers found that the top one percent of earners in Ancient Rome controlled 16 percent of the society's wealth. By comparison, the top one percent of American earners control 40 percent of the country's wealth, according to Vanity Fair. (h/t ThinkProgress)


Still, the income gap may hurt the U.S. in other ways. A September report from the International Monetary Fund found that greater income equality positively correlates with stronger economic growth.

Now besides being in a credit union forever (is it a coop?) I have heard the term used, mostly at college by my green house people.

It may not be complicated.

Do we just pool our money so we can buy in bulk in a coop, and leverage our dollars like wall mart, but ensure fair trade and wage. I need more info on coops. I know there have been some posts. Guess I better investigate some.

Look the Swiss get some good eats at the coop. Migros is the largest supermarket chain in Switzerland and has around 2 million of the country's 7.2 million population as members.[citation needed] Switzerland's second-biggest supermarket chain, Coop is also a cooperative. In 2001, it merged with 11 cooperative federations which had been its main suppliers for over 100 years.[citation needed] As of 2005, Coop operates 1,437 shops and employs almost 45,000 people. According to Bio Suisse, the Swiss organic producers' association, Coop accounts for half of all the organic food sold in Switzerland.[citation needed]

Ok ... I have a local food coop to visit soon. I can learn more on coops there I bet.


[-] 2 points by gnomunny (6819) from St Louis, MO 11 years ago

No. "Less wealthy" is not the same as "poor." Poor means worrying every day whether you'll have enough to pay the rent or feed yourself next week. If someone making a mill and a half a year is worrying about that, they're not poor, they're stupid.

[-] 2 points by analystwanabe99 (153) 11 years ago

The above article is speaking of the top 1.5% in America who control most of the money. What I found interesting is that of that 1.5% only .0002267% or 400 families have most of the wealth. That's a lot of power in a few hands, scary stuff.

[-] 2 points by gnomunny (6819) from St Louis, MO 11 years ago

Agreed. I'd heard recently about 400 families controlling most of the country's wealth but don't remember where I read it. I also recently read where only a handful of intertwined corporations control 40% of the world's wealth. It's obscene.

[-] 1 points by analystwanabe99 (153) 11 years ago

Check out my artical: How it all works, the legal theft of americans money. Part 1
Sorry U gnomunny . . . me got no money either. . .

[-] 2 points by gnomunny (6819) from St Louis, MO 11 years ago

Heheh, you got the meaning of my username. Good one.

I did read that post earlier tonight. Waiting for part 2.

[-] 1 points by analystwanabe99 (153) 11 years ago

This info came from Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affluence_in_the_United_States

Good stuff that Wikipedia . . . public domain. I love the sound of FREE!!!

[-] 2 points by gnomunny (6819) from St Louis, MO 11 years ago

Oh yeah. I refer to Wikipedia almost on a daily basis. It has it's faults I hear, but an invaluable internet resource in my opinion.

[-] 1 points by Nader (74) 11 years ago

Unfortunately, judging by the amount of people that shop at WalMart everyday I would say very few would shop at your hypothetical company.

[-] 1 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 11 years ago

Everyone knows for a fact that WalMart pays its employees shit, and all their stuff is cheap shit from China. And yet they march in by the thousands per day.

Even during protests, they dont even stop to ask what is the protest is about. I have newspaper from 1953 that I was just looking at. People dont value whats going on anymore.

[-] 1 points by HCabret (-327) 11 years ago

Is the "wealth gap" the problem itself or a result of an underlying problem?

Why is the focus here so much on how much money you have in relation to others?

[-] 1 points by nobnot (529) from Kapaa, HI 11 years ago

Sara are you going for the record?I do think you have it.Where do you find the time for all this?Well good for you.You must be back on the wagon.



[-] 1 points by vaprosvyeh (-400) 11 years ago

I officially nominate you for the coveted award of Most Obvious Sock-puppet Ever.

[-] 0 points by Kavatz (464) from Edmonton, AB 11 years ago

Note about vapospray, ignore it and it will go away. But it's just so damn hard to ignore.

You all were right, after Vapo gets to you and you ignore it, it will resort to name calling.

PS: Where does it get it's twinkles, I've only seen people stink it up. As I said before, clearly it has multiple accounts. How would it know so much about the long history of this site with an account created last month?

[-] -2 points by vaprosvyeh (-400) 11 years ago

Anyone can ask Jart to verify that I only have one active account here.

But whatever you do, do NOT click on "solvetheproblem" and find out that the account was opened TODAY, jumped right in and posted an entire thread on it's first day here, AND the topic of that thread just happened, (by some miraculous coincidence) to be the EXACT same idea that Kavatz has been promoting repeatedly in this forum for the past few weeks!

And not only that, but the thread originated 55 minutes ago, and Kavatz just HAPPENED to be here to post the first response to that thread a mere 6 minutes later!

I apologize for not being able to see this miraculous event for the sheer coincidence that it was. I apologize for calling Kavatz a sock puppet master with ZERO proof or EVIDENCE to support such an accusation. He would never, ever, constantly, do that to anyone. Except me.

[-] -1 points by vaprosvyeh (-400) 11 years ago

I notice you edited your first response here Kavatz. Good for you.

Now explain why you are being so snarky to someone new here. Especially someone who sounds like they might have missed your idea about the 99% Conglomerate because the rest of the OP seems to echo your plans almost perfectly.

[-] -1 points by Kavatz (464) from Edmonton, AB 11 years ago

Vaporub thought I wasn't being sarcastic about this comment, and that it has something to do with the 99% Conglomerate. What a goof.

[-] 1 points by nobnot (529) from Kapaa, HI 11 years ago

Sara has always used Wing men to cover her flanks.

[-] -1 points by vaprosvyeh (-400) 11 years ago

Wing men or wing nuts?

[-] -1 points by vaprosvyeh (-400) 11 years ago

First off, sarcasm doesn't translate well on the internet, so you should work on your delivery.

Second, it never occurred to me that someone who is so familiar with OB and EI actually WOULD respond sarcastically to any newcomer, much less one who is so obviously ready to support something like your 99% Conglomerate idea. That would make no sense as a way to welcome and engage with like minded people.