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Forum Post: Howard Stern shits on OWS

Posted 12 years ago on Jan. 12, 2012, 3:16 a.m. EST by francismjenkins (3713)
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I'm cancelling Sirius, fuck douche nuts Howard "has been" Stern.



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[-] 13 points by CarlaW (67) 12 years ago

I agree - FUCK him. That “corporate whore” piece of shit has nothing better to do than portray a serious movement as a bunch of dumb fucks that are clueless.

Are we to believe that they couldn’t find any intelligent people to talk to (is that their message, you betcha’)

This my friends is propaganda at its finest, blessed and approved if not directed by the corporate media to suppress the movement against them and the others that control the Global wealth through opinion shaping (propaganda)

If you are serious about the OWS movement I suggest you gain an understanding of what propaganda is and how we are immersed in it.

If you don’t understand the mechanics of propaganda you continue to be unknowing persuaded and often times supporting things that are against your best interest.

Thanks for bringing this to our attention.

[-] 7 points by francismjenkins (3713) 12 years ago

Howard Stern's bitch (whatever that dude's name is), looked around for the most stoned looking person in the crowd. That dude could have been surrounded by thousands of sober intellectuals, didn't matter. Howard Stern had only one purpose, to defame OWS, which should be obvious to even the most biased observer.

[-] 5 points by CarlaW (67) 12 years ago

Have you ever notice when people keep getting away with bullshit, they just keep taking it to the next level until it gets to the point of absurdity. That's what this disgusting POS did.

He has gotten a new job (probably his pay for being a good soldier for the corporate media) on America’s got talent.

I wish there was some way to make him a poster boy for corporate media opinion shaping

I spamming a boycott with the links to everybody I know. You don't have to like OWS to hate being manipulated by the corporate media

[-] 1 points by GypsyKing (8708) 12 years ago

Howard Stern is, and has always been, blatantly right -wing. He has nothing in common with this movement, and never has. You can't get sold out by someone who was always your enemy.

[-] 4 points by ModestCapitalist (2342) 12 years ago

Stern's position was to be expected.

He is filthy disgusting rich.

That about sums it up.

[-] 2 points by CarlaW (67) 12 years ago

He always seemed like a creep, but this is a new low. It appears as joking around and having fun at somebody else’s expense, but it is really the same thing that FOX and the other corporate media does seriously. Both send the same message to unsuspecting citizens either as news or clowning around

[-] 1 points by philosophersstoned (233) from Gypsum, CO 12 years ago

I think you mean "his position was to be expected, he is a Libertarian." Plenty of rich people support Occupy.

[-] 2 points by ModestCapitalist (2342) 12 years ago

Those rich people who claim to support Occupy always and without exception support our contentions that Wall Street and Washington are corrupt but NOT our contention that the income and wealth are horribly concentrated.

They NEVER acknowledge that cornerstone of this movement.


[-] 2 points by philosophersstoned (233) from Gypsum, CO 12 years ago

The market system is not perfect in any kind of distribution of wealth, and taxation is a way you get to the excesses of what the market system produces and where you take care of the people that get the short straws. In a country as prosperous as we are, nobody should get a really short straw - Warren Buffet

[-] 2 points by ModestCapitalist (2342) 12 years ago

The world's richest Wall Street investor is not a supporter of OWS. That being said, his words regarding inequality are nothing but Wall Street PR. If he truly cared about levels of inequality, he would not DELIBERATELY make those levels EVEN MORE FUCKING OBSCENE.

[-] 1 points by philosophersstoned (233) from Gypsum, CO 12 years ago

"no true scottsman" fallacy google it

[-] 1 points by ModestCapitalist (2342) 12 years ago

I'm pretty sure you and I are on the same side for the most part. But after two dozen recent exchanges in which the die-hard conservative partisan puppet opposition tried to divert my attention from a particular issue by making references to this 'fallacy' or that 'fallacy', if I never hear or read the word again as long as I live, it will be too soon.

No offense. You're not the one who made those types of references the most annoying in the history of mankind.

[-] -1 points by kingscrossection (1203) 12 years ago

Actually I think he meant Stern has more money than me so he must be evil.

[-] 1 points by Thrasymoque (-11) 12 years ago

You personify the word idiot. And you seem to be proud of it.

Who are you voting for now that Sarah and Dubya are gone. Let me guess. Ron "fucking simple minded" Paul

Yeah I'm mad because somebody has more money than me (not). Everybody don't think like you moron, but don't change you do bring the entertainment.

[-] 0 points by kingscrossection (1203) 12 years ago

Actually yes. However, I prefer to call him Ron "Fucking open minded" Paul

[-] 1 points by fucorporatemedia (451) 12 years ago

.the corporate media using our public airwaves to lie every day!

Surround the TV stations with facts about the corporations and their illegal behavior that continues to go on without prosecution. We have a Justice System that should be acting to protect us, but they too have been put into power by corporations.

We must go to the TV stations with the truth, and demand they start serving the public interest or resign. We must Demand prosecutions, or Demand resignations until we get to someone who will prosecute.

Occupy continues to wait and hope the corporate media will cover the movement fairly and it's not going to happen.

Those are our public airwaves, and it is time to take the protest to the source of the problem, corporate propaganda 24/7!

I hear time and time again, who cares, we have twitter and other social media.

We all know they are censoring Twitter, yahoo, censoring facebook and using facebook to collect data...their whole goal is total control on the internet at this time and it is working smashingly.

It has become increasingly difficult to find any information or news stories about Occupy anywhere on the net. Alternative news sites have dropped most coverage. The movement looks dead to the majority of Americans, even those searching on the internet.

Then there are millions who only get their 'news' from the liars on the corporate media, and they are making it impossible to have a discussion with people because their BIG LIES are so pervasive.

Those are our public airwaves and we have every right to take them back.

Surround the TV stations, Do not let them come or go until they start telling the truth, Make them uncomfortable being fascists enablers. And most importantly BRING FACTS written on signs "Stop Wall Street Speculation causing the rise in food and gas prices' WE need to wake the rest of the 99% who are confused and do not realize that they are being ripped off every day. You see them come to the site every day, they think this movement is about welfare people wanting more money. It is completely absurd and we need to stop their bullshit now!

[-] 1 points by dantes443322 (148) 12 years ago

"If you are serious about the OWS movement I suggest you gain an understanding of what propaganda is and how we are immersed in it."

Is the covering up of rapes and assaults att the OWS camp censorship?

And way to go with leaving a -2 year old in the car. That is gonna win some hearts and minds.



[-] 0 points by FrogWithWings (1367) 12 years ago

Go get on his show if you are nearby. His ego is large enough that he could be duped into thinking he was getting more stoner action instead of a switcheroo.

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 12 years ago

You insulted my wife!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are the lowest of the low!!!

You can not make sense!!!

You are insensible!!!

You are insensate!!!!!!

You have no morals!!!!!

You are a fluke of the universe!!!!

I do not forget.

[-] -1 points by FrogWithWings (1367) 12 years ago

I find your new tack much more entertaining than your previous non-stop juvenile liberal cry baby shit slinging.

[-] -1 points by Kirby (104) 12 years ago

Power to howie

[-] -3 points by aries (463) from Nutley, NJ 12 years ago

hahaha! So you are mad at him because he dissed you hahaha! pretty funny. Thanks for the laughs hahaha!

[-] 4 points by CarlaW (67) 12 years ago

You know what is really funny ha, ha, ha, is that we are all being continuously led think what they want us to think and you are too stupid to see it. Isn't that funny? He, he, ho, ho, oh boy I'm crackin' up.

[-] 0 points by aries (463) from Nutley, NJ 12 years ago

ok - keep blaming rich people for your problems. see where that gets you

[-] 10 points by CurveOfBindingEnergy (165) 12 years ago

Howard Stern makes $80 million a year and is worth around $500 million.

He should be hanging from a lamp post right next to Rush Limbaugh and every other obstacle to humanity.

[-] 2 points by Courtney (111) from New York, NY 12 years ago

I don't know, I wouldn't worry about Howard Stern. Who listens to him anymore anyways?


[-] -2 points by smartcapitalist (143) 12 years ago

Why are you guys envious of anyone who makes money? Seriously man, stop looking at others and whining. Do something worthwhile.

[-] -2 points by shadz66 (19985) 12 years ago

The Only thing that Howard Stern shits on is his own over-inflated but still empty, head - a situation somewhat facilitated by his head being jammed so far up his own (x) !

The idiot is a reactionary retard but is still (apparently + see below!) worshipped by some for being wealthy, famous and "successful" !!

Oy Vey !!!

[-] -2 points by Libertarianliving (149) 12 years ago

Sounds like someone is extremely envious of successful people!

[-] 2 points by Builder (4202) 12 years ago

I am extremely envious of people who never have to be in the public eye. Those who can spend their days watering their plants, weeding their gardens, walking their dogs, and making their own minds up about what to do after sundown.

[-] 1 points by Libertarianliving (149) 12 years ago

Than why don't YOU do what it takes to have a life such as that?

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 12 years ago

I tried it for twelve months. Living in one the most remote parts of Australia, the west Kimberley.

You still need an income though, so I had to deal with the public on a regular basis to maintain an income.

Am in the process of accumulating enough cash to head back there again, only this time, just working for me. There's enough seafood and feral cattle to live off. Basically just need to grow some produce.

[-] 1 points by ARod1993 (2420) 12 years ago

It's hardly as simple as you think, and discounting the Occupy movement as a bunch of impotent idiots begging for free money is a serious error. I completely agree with the principles behind the Occupy Wall Street movement, and I feel that the dismissal of income inequality as a non-issue spawned of thin skins and jealousy is a grave error even though if they and I both succeed in life I'll probably wind up paying more in taxes than I would otherwise.

I grew up working poor in the Bronx and am currently at MIT thanks to a crazily determined mother and a strong, supportive working class community. Simply speaking from my experience and from what I've seen, poor choices may be a part of why people are poor, but they're hardly enough of the picture to just be able to point the finger at an entire population and brand them as lazy, stupid, and useless.

I'll be the first to admit that what I did was hardly in a vacuum. Not everybody has a mother who is a licensed teacher who was willing to quit her job to live as a poor housewife so that she could homeschool her children to keep them out of a failing school system. Not everybody has a father who could find and hold onto a union job with good benefits up until his son's sophomore year of high school, weather an eleven-month strike and a plant closure, and manage to get another union job within a few months of being laid off. Not everybody has a landlord willing to hold off a rent increase for a year longer than he had to to cut us a break. Not everyone knows an incredibly kind nun who just dropped off $500 at our doorstep one month when we couldn't fully make rent on time.

It is theoretically possible to bootstrap oneself out of poverty, but damn near nobody who truly got anywhere satisfactory in life came from absolutely nothing. There is always the one that does, and that person is so many different kinds of amazing it's not funny, but usually there are support systems there that you didn't see that your average bootstrapper was able to take advantage of. There are also whole communities in which the resources don't exist for those kinds of support systems to develop organically and therein lies the trap. When you have someone who comes from a broken home, spends his days in a school that doesn't teach him and where large chunks of the student body punish success, in a community where few people care and the ones that do truly have no support to offer, you've essentially spent his whole life teaching him that success is out of his reach and he'd be a fool to reach for it.

The whole point of discarding this ugly attitude about the economically less fortunate is because only then are you going to watch the kind of change that you're hoping for. Give the poor real economic support for things like going to college and/or vocational training so that they can ditch their minimum-wage job for something they can actually live on. Send their kids to strong, high-performing schools where success is expected and rewarded. Truly offer them opportunity and you'd be amazed at how fast they would take it. Now, if you give someone every opportunity in the book and they still blow it, then feel free to dump them on the roadside; I won't stop you. But until that's been done your attitude is simply part of the problem.

[-] -1 points by smartcapitalist (143) 12 years ago

It was great hearing about your story. But coming from a middle class family myself and having achieved some degree of (financial) success I would agree with you on most counts. However, my problem with this OWS thing is that, sure you will have a hard time if your parents make say $30k a year, but that does not mean that anything short of $100k should be considered a struggle. It isn't. The parent earning $40k would be able to provide better, the one earning $60k even better and the gap narrows as you reach higher up the income ladder. There is this tendency in OWS to blame all their shortcomings in life on money and everyone else's success on money and unethical conduct. I am sorry but I don't buy that argument.

Forget America, even poorest of the poor kids from third world countries succeed with hard work. http://www.careers360.com/news/3689-Tilling-land-and-dreams Take the case of this guy in the link, he made it into one of the most elite institutions (IIT Delhi) of India where only the top 0.5% of the test takers make it. That's far more rarefied then either your or my alma mater (CMU or HBS).

Bottom line, I agree that if your parents have money you can go to the best schools and learn from the best teachers etc but even without all of that you can succeed in life.

[-] 2 points by ARod1993 (2420) 12 years ago

I understand what you're saying, and I'm not out to take money from anyone; I want the quality of employment (and by necessity educational institutions people have access to) to be as independent of financial background as possible. These days, if you live in certain neighborhoods your future is most likely going to fall within a given and fairly narrow range of scenarios barring drastic action on your part or on the part of your community; it is entirely possible for someone who is poor to give it everything they have and make it out, and it is entirely possible for a well-to-do individual to squander enough of what he or she has to wind up at the bottom of the food chain, but the former certainly isn't the norm. As far as I'm concerned, that needs to change.

If you want to begin addressing those problems you're going to have to start with education; if you've ever seen Stand and Deliver you'll understand both the incredible degree of circumstantial hardship that our poor have to deal with and the degree of difference a strong education can have in a situation like that, and I feel like our current educational policies and our attempts at reform thus far simply haven't worked and we really need to rethink our approach, especially in tougher neighborhoods.

The other major thing we're going to have to look at is what exactly we plan on doing with our poor and our working class; as of right now, the latter (right along with the middle class) is and has been taking one hit after another due to factors like deunionization and outsourcing, and something has to be done about that. A nation composed entirely of BS's and BA's sounds like a great idea in theory, but there are groups of people who truly don't fit into that model and there has to be a better answer for them than "Go flip burgers" or "It's your fault you're underwater for trying to better yourself."

We need to have something more to our economy than just a small group of high-earning professionals with advanced degrees and a large unwashed (and presumably expendable) mass of Starbucks baristas and McDonalds employees trying to make ends meet on $7-$8 per hour, and that's going to mean forcing jobs back over here in the long term as well as a fair number of other measures including reconstruction of our national infrastructure (which would serve to provide stopgap employment until a new manufacturing industry got under way, and would create a fair number of additional permanent maintenance jobs over the long haul) if we want to fix things.

I stand behind OWS namely because I see them as the first movement with enough raw manpower and raw anger to be in a position to force these issues in the long term, and because their initial direction is close enough to mine that action towards their goals would most likely also serve the ends I outline above. We're fairly raucous and unorganized, and we're far from perfect, but as far as I can see Occupy Wall Street is the first real start in this direction I've seen on the national stage.

[-] -3 points by aries (463) from Nutley, NJ 12 years ago

why because he is rich? because he figured out how to make a lot of money? What did he ever do to hurt you?

[-] 4 points by HitGirl (2263) 12 years ago

Is anything that gets you rich considered admirable and acceptable? If that's the case our politicians should just keep taking the money.

[-] 0 points by aries (463) from Nutley, NJ 12 years ago

that's a good question - you tell me - is every pursuit that results in making you rich evil?

[-] 1 points by CurveOfBindingEnergy (165) 12 years ago

Behind every fortune is a crime.

[-] -3 points by headlesscross (67) 12 years ago

A comment like that shows NO "humanity".

[-] 6 points by UncomonSense (386) 12 years ago

People forget (or never learned) about the French Revolution, and its enduring success.

[-] -2 points by riethc (1149) 12 years ago

The French Revolution was a success!? lol

Napoleon would agree! :D

[-] 3 points by nucleus (3291) 12 years ago

Napoleon took over France in military coup.

[-] -1 points by riethc (1149) 12 years ago

...and the people went with it.

[-] 2 points by UncomonSense (386) 12 years ago

As if they had a choice ... LOL

[-] 0 points by riethc (1149) 12 years ago

Dictatorship always comes from an inability of the people to stop it.

[-] 2 points by nucleus (3291) 12 years ago

Under Napoleon, people were better off than they were under the monarchy.

[-] 0 points by riethc (1149) 12 years ago

What history books are you guys reading?

[-] 3 points by UncomonSense (386) 12 years ago

Historians widely regard the Revolution as one of the most important events in human history, and the end of the early modern period, which started around 1500, is traditionally attributed to the onset of the French Revolution in 1789. The Revolution is, in fact, often seen as marking the "dawn of the modern era". Within France itself, the Revolution permanently crippled the power of the aristocracy and drained the wealth of the Church, although the two institutions survived despite the damage they sustained. After the collapse of the First Empire in 1815, the French public lost the rights and privileges earned since the Revolution, but they remembered the participatory politics that characterized the period, with one historian commenting: "Thousands of men and even many women gained firsthand experience in the political arena: they talked, read, and listened in new ways; they voted; they joined new organizations; and they marched for their political goals. Revolution became a tradition, and republicanism an enduring option." Some historians argue that the French people underwent a fundamental transformation in self-identity, evidenced by the elimination of privileges and their replacement by rights as well as the growing decline in social deference that highlighted the principle of equality throughout the Revolution. The Revolution represented the most significant and dramatic challenge to political absolutism up to that point in history and, despite its failures, spread democratic ideals throughout Europe and ultimately the world. It had a profound impact on the Russian Revolution and its ideas inspired Mao Zedong in his efforts at constructing a communist state in China.

[-] 3 points by flip (7101) 12 years ago

right on - they took the american revolution to a completely different level - the fact that it failed to hold on to all the gains does not negate what they did in any way

[-] -2 points by riethc (1149) 12 years ago

The French Revolution led to a power vacuum which was filled by a emperor. It was a failure in creating a republic. The argument that it planted the seeds for future republics is discounting the great influence the American Revolution had on the rest of the world.

[-] -2 points by headlesscross (67) 12 years ago

Sure,bring it. We can play that.

[+] -5 points by jbob (74) 12 years ago

sooo let me get this straight. because a person is good at what they do and make a lot of money, you want them dead? this is a perfect example that you guys are just jealous of what other people have. you dont care about this country at all. there is nothing you can say to justify yourself.

this, im protesting for the good of the whole bullshit, is just a front. you guys are just envious that you dont have what someone else has. how bout this, you get off your lazy fucking ass, get out and get a fucking job, youre nothing but a waste of space,

you really are killing the american dream. and i know this is how most of you 99ers feel, but you wont say it.

[-] -3 points by Libertarianliving (149) 12 years ago

You have them pegged. it is all ENVY. Everyday there are new people becoming "millionaires", but these "Occupiers" don't have the know how, nor the initiative, to be one of them. Therefor they want all "wealth" pooled together and made easier to accumulate. but guess what. If somehow suddenly all money was taken and put together and distributed evenly- let's say a "start over". It wouldn't be long before the same people were at the top and the same people were in the gutter!

[+] -5 points by FreedomsSpeech (-5) 12 years ago

But we love Limbaugh. He has more listeners by a factor of 1000000 as compared to the number of people paying attention to OWS, which is a fucking shitload of crap

[-] 1 points by CurveOfBindingEnergy (165) 12 years ago

Of course you do. And such stupidity partially explains why you are so ignorant.

[+] -10 points by JackPulliam3rd (205) 12 years ago

you want him dead because he's rich and you don't like what he says? Jesus, dude

[-] 2 points by francismjenkins (3713) 12 years ago

I don't want anyone dead, I don't care about his wealth, I just think he's a douche bag, and I don't think we're obligated to pay money that goes into the pockets of douche bags (well, with the exception of taxes of course) :)

Sure, I think tax rates on the wealthy should be higher (but not confiscatory), I'd love to see more worker owned firms (although I don't think this sort of thing can happen from the "top down" ... and there's no law preventing these sort of things now), etc., but most of us I think take a more utilitarian approach to this.

I mean, is it really true that going back to the Clinton era tax rates on the wealthy represents some sort of assault against liberty? That trivializes the meaning of liberty, and by any reasonable measure, it's a ridiculous claim. Is restoring Glass Steagall such a bad idea, considering it gave us over 60 years of stability in our financial sector? Even if you think some regulations are bad, it doesn't make the case for the proposition that "all" regulation is bad. I mean, do you think companies should be able to dump mercury in your drinking water?

[-] 2 points by Jehovah (113) 12 years ago

Let the prophets of Baal be consumed by fire, my son.

[-] -2 points by JackPulliam3rd (205) 12 years ago

pretentious much?

[-] 1 points by nucleus (3291) 12 years ago

Adjective much?

[-] 6 points by aahpat (1407) 12 years ago

Howard Stern still has a microphone?

Where the hell do they find people to listen to him? He is a patient zero spreading the social disease of libertarianism.

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (23799) 12 years ago

Well said.

[-] 5 points by JadedCitizen (4277) 12 years ago

Did you expect anything less from "Fartman"?

[-] 4 points by GypsyKing (8708) 12 years ago

That's not surprising, Howard Stern is a shit.

[-] 4 points by philosophersstoned (233) from Gypsum, CO 12 years ago

Former Libertarian Party candidate for Governor of NY Howard Stern shits on OWS? What a shocking surprise.

[-] 2 points by alexrai (851) 12 years ago

Bye bye Sirius.

[-] 1 points by nucleus (3291) 12 years ago

Vote with your wallet!

[-] 2 points by ZenDogTroll (13032) from South Burlington, VT 12 years ago

I never did like that fool.

he can kiss my ass

Boycott that fool.


[-] -2 points by FrogWithWings (1367) 12 years ago

Far less of a fool than ANYONE still supporting Obama.


The "civil war amendments" were not attached to the original one. Why don't you have this same Constitutional Scholar explain to you exactly what he meant by what he said. Wiki ain't gonna tell you.

[+] -4 points by ZenDogTroll (13032) from South Burlington, VT 12 years ago

I'm on dial-up, so unfortunately I'm not going to be able to correct your misperception


[-] -2 points by FrogWithWings (1367) 12 years ago

Oh, your dial up cannot even allow you to load five seconds of a youtube video? Then go to a library, the video is of Obama saying very clearly what I've already told you. You may find it interesting to go back and look at the massive archives of interviews with him dating back into the early 90's.

[+] -6 points by ZenDogTroll (13032) from South Burlington, VT 12 years ago

what? what's that? Diss'in the Man, again?

[-] -1 points by FrogWithWings (1367) 12 years ago

Not at all and GF's narrative and analysis are distorted, inaccurate and misleading. Obama knows the truth and answered with it in this, and a few other recorded interviews that are out there for anyone seeking the truth, from him anyhow, to partake thereof.

Just load up the first five seconds and listen.

It might be worth a trip to the library to access several other of his Constitutional diatribes since it's unlikely you personally know any of his students, and have still never asked the special forces types you know.

I don't know of any, from at least 20 years back, that are not very well educated in the truths of the Constitutions existing in the United States.

However, some people simply cannot accept the truths. They aren't easy, but, once accepted they do tend to make much more sense of why blantant criminal actions in DC are flat out not being prosecuted and why DC puppet after DC puppet proves he is not constrained by that document.

Yanno, like Obama signing NDAA.

[+] -6 points by GirlFriday (17435) 12 years ago

Ok.....................I want you to go to the kitchen and get the tin foil.

I'll wait for you to come back.

[-] 0 points by FrogWithWings (1367) 12 years ago

You are certainly free to remain blissfully ignorant of why so much is happening with absolutely no legal repercussions.

Simply put, it's because what you think does and should apply, actually does not.

[+] -6 points by GirlFriday (17435) 12 years ago

Do you have the aluminum in your hand?

[-] -1 points by FrogWithWings (1367) 12 years ago

Stop the mouth breathing and wanting to know what I'm wearing.

You really haven't sought out Obama's Constitutional rants. He knows what you don't and his performance has been 100% proof.

You've never read anything I've typed to the contrary.

[+] -6 points by GirlFriday (17435) 12 years ago

Do you have the aluminum in your hand?

[-] 0 points by FrogWithWings (1367) 12 years ago

Are you still emulating your favorite hockey player and wearing the same pair of underwear through three periods?

[+] -6 points by GirlFriday (17435) 12 years ago

Do you have the aluminum in your hand?

[-] 1 points by FrogWithWings (1367) 12 years ago

You've now gone six periods like the rumors have it. Hey, take several baths then a machete to the massive hair crops on your face, pits and crotch and donate it to chemo-patients, and seriously, goodwill industries will clothe you cheaply so that you might be able to get a job flipping burgers, if nothing else. I don't think they sell underwear and it will please you to know how much money their CEO's "earn".

Seriously, take a bath, battery acid would likely remove most of the foul smell. You can put on your resume that you out work two hockey players.

[+] -6 points by GirlFriday (17435) 12 years ago

Isn't this fun anymore? Isn't this what you came for?

[+] -5 points by GirlFriday (17435) 12 years ago

It's called how to take things out of context 101. This is from a radio talk show in 2001 and there is a panel that Obama is on. We hear no other speakers but Obama, but he makes reference to them. There are call in questions. I know this because I followed the link to the person who uploaded this one to watch a second clip that was available.

Obama states that the constitution is an imperfect document in its original form because of the slavery issue but that paved the way for the Civil War Amendments. And that this stems from the Framers world view at the time where slavery was more of a nagging issue.

That is the long and short of it.

[-] 0 points by nappybegone2o12 (-31) 12 years ago

Obummer is a reject

[+] -6 points by GirlFriday (17435) 12 years ago

You are progressively getting worth your alternative ID's.

[+] -7 points by ZenDogTroll (13032) from South Burlington, VT 12 years ago

Well that's interesting - I said something very similar in defense of G. Washington around here some time ago, regarding culture and world view of the era.

[+] -7 points by GirlFriday (17435) 12 years ago

Well, his words were a blind spot that continues on till today.

Slaves were not considered people and when Jefferson had the opportunity to alter the course, he chose not to. There was a huge fear of pay back, a race war. I have been through Madison's Notes and there is no sign anywhere that slaves were considered human.

[+] -7 points by ZenDogTroll (13032) from South Burlington, VT 12 years ago

That's kinda depressing.

[-] -2 points by nappybegone2o12 (-31) 12 years ago

ya that's depressing that buckwheat is going to get booted from office soon

[+] -7 points by GirlFriday (17435) 12 years ago

Which part?

[+] -7 points by ZenDogTroll (13032) from South Burlington, VT 12 years ago

and there is no sign anywhere that slaves were considered human.

I mean, there must have been a recognition of that basic fact. And so it should appear in the writings of the era.

That it does not I think says something about the culture, and maybe even the people who shaped that culture . . .

[+] -7 points by GirlFriday (17435) 12 years ago

Not in the Notes. http://avalon.law.yale.edu/subject_menus/debcont.asp

Massachusetts was the first colony to legalize slavery. There were free blacks and whites that lived next to each other, married each other, had children together. What they had at the time was indentured servants. Racism was an intentional deliberate creation to justify slavery.

It took me a good 20 years to put this period in perspective and I realized that if you don't put these men on too high of a pedestal then there is a lot less of a fall.

[+] -7 points by ZenDogTroll (13032) from South Burlington, VT 12 years ago

Ah well.

Perhaps that is a lesson to bring home to today's repelicans - as it pertains to ronny ray-gun . . .

[-] 1 points by TheirLyingPropaganda (54) 12 years ago

Do you think he gets a payoff from the One Per Center Funded Anti-OWS lobbyist Campaign?

[-] 1 points by michaelfonseca (3) 12 years ago

Who cares what someone says at least they're spreading the news. Man up...

[-] 1 points by paulg5 (673) 12 years ago

I use to listen a few times to H/S back in the 80ies for free! Now people pay for Howard Stern....oh my god....that's like paying top dollar for the scankey-est oldest ugly-est prostitute in the brothel! Should have been replaced years ago!

[-] 1 points by KofAIII (234) 12 years ago

AGREED... +10.

That Howard Stern is worth half a billion dollars for throwing bologna at stripper's asses makes me weep for humanity.

[-] 1 points by pullmyfinger (-6) 12 years ago

HA HA HA. OWS morons exposed. Ignorant stoners on parade

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 12 years ago

So this guy Howard has a hard-on for the nation, or is it the other way around?

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 12 years ago

I wouldn't waste a good crap on Stern.

Some people just don't know when their time is up.

[-] 1 points by dantes443322 (148) 12 years ago

"a serious movement as a bunch of dumb fucks that are clueless."

Geeze, hit the nail on the head.

[-] 1 points by Heavensrat (1) 12 years ago

I think thats the main reason i didn't follow this movement from the begining because people were just doing it because it was a cool thing to at the time, im glad now we are on the right path

[-] 1 points by riethc (1149) 12 years ago

I hate Howard Stern, but I bet they didn't have to stage those interviews. A lot of occupiers I met don't know what the hell they are protesting.


[-] 0 points by Carlitini99 (-167) 12 years ago

Howard Stern is the King of all Media and he has spoken. I think that he has a point we do need to improve the perception that the public has of us.



[-] 0 points by fairforall (279) 12 years ago

the highest rated comments today are WRT howard stern.


[-] 0 points by pullmyfinger (-6) 12 years ago

Can you imagine a world...run by these morons.

"I think...like...we need world peace....and like...free food and oil....and like no crime.....where like...we could all live in harmony.....smoke some weed...and like... love each other....you know like...what I'm saying?"

[-] 0 points by jbob (74) 12 years ago

francis you are the most uneducated jealous piece of shit.

[-] 1 points by francismjenkins (3713) 12 years ago

Uhhhh ... okay.

[-] 1 points by jbob (74) 12 years ago

thanks for agreeing with me.

[-] 1 points by francismjenkins (3713) 12 years ago

You're welcome.

[-] 0 points by pullmyfinger (-6) 12 years ago

Thank you Howard...for exposing these fucking bag of idiots. They can't put together a coherent thought.

[-] 0 points by FrogWithWings (1367) 12 years ago


So he was having fun with a few easy targets, this video however, is actually very logical and well directed.

[-] 1 points by francismjenkins (3713) 12 years ago

logical and well directed? Sort of like police intelligence (sort of oxymoronic, okay that's not exactly a word, but you get the point) :)


[-] -1 points by pullmyfinger (-6) 12 years ago

OWS mindless assholes...EXPOSED

[-] -1 points by jbob (74) 12 years ago

also, this was a dumb idea to post this, it exposes that you guys are dumb as fuck. ahaha

[-] 0 points by jbob (74) 12 years ago

he barely said anything. he just played audio of you guys. idiot.


[-] -2 points by LaraLittletree (-850) from Scarsdale, NY 12 years ago

bravo howard Stern I use to not like him.. now he is great.

[-] -2 points by pullmyfinger (-6) 12 years ago

Liberal love good humor...as long as it's directed at conservatives. When it's aimed at them...they demand censorship.

liberals=Crybaby little shrieking bitch hypocrites

[-] 1 points by francismjenkins (3713) 12 years ago

Who's demanding censorship?

[+] -5 points by GirlFriday (17435) 12 years ago

Remember that time when all of your friends went to Vegas? No? That's because you have no friends.


[-] -1 points by pullmyfinger (-6) 12 years ago

okay yea...the Vegas trip dude...like I know what you mean. Take another hit Cheech

cuckoo cuckoo

[-] -2 points by paulalinsky (18) 12 years ago

I thought these people sounded like most OWS protesters I've seen or heard in the media.

Whats with the manufactured outrage? OWS owns these people and if this is how they represent OWS than so be it.

If you don't like it,change it.

It ain't Sterns fault,he's just interviewing OWS.

[-] -2 points by Joeboy32 (72) 12 years ago

Howard does what Howard does and that's entertain people on Radio period with his personality. And he'll use anything at his disposal in order to keep people interested in his show.

After all, that money he makes is on contract and he has to follow the rules like everyone else in his position.

[-] -3 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 12 years ago

stern needs to get to the point

gave him 2 minutes

anyone get through it

[+] -4 points by GirlFriday (17435) 12 years ago

Howard Stern has always been a big ol' piece of doo doo. Should we be surprised that he continues on in this manner?

[+] -6 points by wigger (-48) 12 years ago

Shits on OWS? Poor choice of words given OWSers tendencies to defecate at will. Any time more than five of them gather a pile of feces will appear.

[+] -7 points by smartcapitalist (143) 12 years ago

People make fun of the the stupid. How is that new?

[+] -9 points by slammersworldisback (-217) 12 years ago

Adam Carolla and Mancow shit on OWS too

[-] 3 points by francismjenkins (3713) 12 years ago

Right, and both are douche bags (but, Adam Carolla has been a "has been" for a long time, and I live in the Hudson Valley of New York, not Chicago, so I don't really give a shit what Mancow says). On the other hand, I have been a Sirius subscriber.

[+] -10 points by headlesscross (67) 12 years ago

For the first time in my life I'm actually proud of Howard Stern.

[+] -12 points by slammersworldisback (-217) 12 years ago

Most of America shits on OWS....why should Stern be any different?

[-] 2 points by francismjenkins (3713) 12 years ago

True perhaps ... but in this case, I'm paying a monthly fee, a small slice of which goes into this douche bags pocket. Never really like Stern anyway (I mean, I always though he was one of those people who had a funny routine for the first few years he was going, but then it became redundant and quickly lost any semblance of creativity and originality).

[-] 0 points by fairforall (279) 12 years ago

I've never found any interest in HS.

free markets are great.......cancel.