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Forum Post: How to make a difference fast and all at once

Posted 11 years ago on Aug. 16, 2012, 3:26 a.m. EST by DenyConsent2government (9)
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First off, the idea that the current tax code should be replaced with an altogether different one is the worst thing that could ever be done. The current code when properly understood clearly states (well not clearly but what I am about to write next is 100% true and factual) that most people who live in the USA are not liable for any income taxes, nor liable for social security taxes or medicare/medicade taxes currently deducted from paychecks. Those who are not liable and have those deductions made can easily declare those deductions from their pay was done incorrectly and have all of it returned to them up to three years in the past and going forward with each new tax return filing. Read the ebook for free and get it for free at losthorizons.com. Do not believe anything anyone at the IRS tells you or states on the IRS website. Do not believe any IRS publication. All those things are used to mislead you and scare you into believing the gov't actually has the right to steal your labor from you. They do not. As proof of these facts I wrote above. I give you any number of examples of high profile politicians who become targets of consumer groups for not reporting huge sums of their incomes. Example, Charlie Rangle was known to have left several million dollars in assets and money out of his tax return. The reason he legally did not report that income was because those transactions were of a private nature, did not involve the gov't in any way and thus were exempt from the income tax laws. Because the politicians and so many public sector workers need the money from income taxes to pay their salaries, they continually support the current scam being used to steal those moneys from the private sector. The gov't has and continues to use tyrannical methods to scare you into supplication and conforming to their desires of keeping this gravy train of free money going in the one direction it has been going, to them. If you want to really make a change in this gov't, then quit giving them all that money they are stealing from you. Go read the ebook and learn exactly why what I say is true and exactly how to do it correctly. See example after example and more of refund checks to others who have demanded their money be returned to them. Go learn the truth and really make a difference in our upside down society. If you want the 99% to become better off and the 1% to begin to know what it is like in the 99% then you will do this every year you file, and you will oppose any revamping of the current tax code which will legally include all of the private sector which at the current time can not be done Constitutionally. If they replace the tax code you and I will be enslaved to their machine of debt forever and it will then be Constitutional. We do not want that at all. losthorizons.com Free yourself from their chains. PS. The health care legislation was passed by a conservative supreme court justice because there are an increasing number of people who now know what I have written here and it has begun to make a difference in the amount going to DC. The health care law passed mandated the requirement allowing them to jail you and steal all of your possessions if you don't pay up. That is criminal. That is a violation of the RICO statutes on organized crime. Always remember, it is them who are breaking the laws, not us. They steal from us, and they throw us in jail for doing what we know to be right and good and just. Make a difference and claim what is rightfully yours. Refile an amended return up to three years past and get all of that stolen money returned to you. learn how at losthorizons.com Please do it if you want to save this great nation from the evildoers who currently run things in this country today. Please!!! Do not just disregard this comment as poppycock or nonsense. I am telling the absolute 100% truth. Please go and read and learn for yourself. Please, I am begging you to do this for the sake of this country. For the prosperity of this country. For your liberty and rights you have for being born. You deserve better, go learn how to achieve it. It is not hard to do, it is easier than doing a regular tax return for sure. If you have ever felt like you can't make a difference, you were right then, but now with the knowledge you can get from the website losthorizons.com you will make a difference your children and grandchildren will thank you for. Thank you for saving the freedoms we should have but right now are lost. Are you a whipping post? Are you a wimp? Are you a ninny? How about chicken? A loser who won't stand up for what is right? I now you are not, you are a proud protester of OWS. You want to make a difference you know is required for this country to survive and for all of us to be free and prosper. This generation today including last generation and the one before it have the opportunity to actually make the greatest change the world has ever seen in defeating the evil usurpers who have taken control of our real government and replaced it with a corporation that listens to no one and cares for no one because it is a non living, non caring thing that can not live or care no matter how much you want it to. It is impossible to make something that is not alive and can never be alive have a conscience or a thought or a feeling. This is the basic reason this defacto government will never do anything that is fair and proper FOR the people. It will always do what its controllers want it to do. Which is to enrich the controllers and make everyone else subservient to it. Just look at how those acting as elected officials spend excessive amounts of money to be elected to a job that pays so little and should fairly not be providing them pensions or medical coverage whatsoever. Who the hell do they think they are? Gods gift to us? To the USA? Not in my book or yours. They are no better than you or me but that is not what they think. Learn the truth about the tax code and learn to hit them where it does hurt them, in the amount of money they steal from us. More than ten million dollars is shown with checks from the treasury department to thousands and thousands of people just like you and me at losthorizons.com. Checks from people who have read the book and now rightfully claim what is theirs and they have taken pictures of those refund checks along with the documentation from the IRS proving this fact. You worked for that money, go get it back, it is yours after all and they have no right to it. If you do nothing, you enable them to continue their tyrannical ways and to craft the laws to their own desires. If you do nothing it will be you who has contributed to the demise of this nation now. I have told you the truth, I have given you the information on where to go to learn how to make a real change for our good, because lets face it, non violent protest has not ever worked for any significant change needed ever in history. Never. The only things that win wars are to cut off the enemies source of funds and then to cut off the head of the beasts at the top. But to get close enough to kill the beast you must starve it of its ability to replenish its resources, and that people is money. Tax money. The less things you buy, the less tax collected. Demand rightfully the stolen income tax they have been stealing from you your entire life. Demand it because they have robbed you of a better childhood. Just imagine what better improvements your parents could have afforded if they had not been duped like most of us have been. End this evil empire of the corporation United States of America and let us return to the proper government laid out in the Constitution which guarantees our rights as living humans by a Congress and judiciary that works for us not for their corporation in the quest of profits at any price. The lies must stop. The people must regain control of their government or this country will die as will the freedom our forefathers died for on the battlefields of this nation and in two world wars. All other actions by the corporation are nothing but actions and undeclared unConstitutional wars. Live free or die. LIVE FREE OR DIE! LIVE FREE OR DIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEE!



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[-] 1 points by Cocreator (306) 11 years ago

Citizens Arrest Committee, Citizens Audit Committee, Citizens Court, Citizens Body Politic, by the people, for the people..Current courts offer no representation, bought and paid for shills for the corporations..

[-] 0 points by gsw (3411) from Woodbridge Township, NJ 11 years ago

There is no penalty for not paying the health tax. This has been established.

Finally, there is the issue of whether the IRS can collect the tax if someone refuses to either buy insurance or pay the fine. The ACA says the IRS should enforce the law by imposing a tax penalty—but then effectively blocks the agency from using most of the tools it normally uses to go after tax scofflaws.

The ACA bars the IRS from bringing a criminal enforcement case against someone who refuses to pay the non-insurance penalty. And it makes it very difficult, if not impossible, for it to enforce a tax lien. Law professors Jordan Barry and Bryan Camp have a nice piece in Tax Notes explaining it all.

That leaves only one tool—the IRS can subtract the penalty from any refund it owes a taxpayer. But that applies only if the IRS happens to owe somebody a refund. These days, two-thirds of taxpayers get one, but it is usually their choice.

Only low-income households who receive refundable credits, such as the Earned Income Credit, always get refunds. But the ACA specifically exempts most of them from the tax because their income is so low.

Bottom line: Notwithstanding the nutty Internet rumors that the IRS is hiring 20,000 revenue agents to collect the tax, most people who really want to game the system will probably get away with it.

Obamacare: Tax Or Penalty? Call It What You Want, But IRS Won't Be Able To Collect It Howard Gleckman Howard Gleckman, http://www.forbes.com/sites/beltway/2012/07/03/some-tax-few-will-face-obamacare-uninsured-penalty-and-irs-hamstrung-to-collect/

Elect http://www.voterocky.org/ Rocky will fix it.

Rocky Anderson is on ballot in many states, and he praised Ows as idealistic courageous and convergent with his positions (3RD LINK) His strategy is through social media, as the egyptian s did, wants a revo. Against duopoly. If we met up in public forums, parks, and championed his candidacy, that's freedom of speech. How could that be shut down. And everyone emailed, wrote everyone they know, everyone in the phone book, but keep it optimistic, have kids there, etc pro family and worker.








It was cool to the public when you occupied. Real not staged. For those who know in their soul the system has deep problems, it was inspiring.

Can WE occupy central park(s) and spread the message there, even if it is daily. It was cool you were out in public standing up.

It's just whole country feels conservative, cause cons keep repeative Obama is communist.

OWS was so fast, and not well covered in main media, for most part. I think it was raising awareness, especially when the police got out of line, but now it is easy for public to ignore, and for many they may believe it has faded away:((

Sorry if this is a poor idea. I'm old & on west coast. I'm out of loop here. There was an occupy in my town, one of longest lasting closed in dec.