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Forum Post: How teachers are deliberately failing our kids

Posted 2 years ago on July 13, 2012, 4:04 a.m. EST by delayedgrat (-157)
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Since 1970 the number of students being taught yearly has grown by 8%. Since 1970, the number of teachers has gone from 3.3 million to 6.4 million, nearly double. This s why teachers unions are evil. Student performance is worse but if you ask a teacher whats wrong and how to fix it, the answer is always we need more money and more teachers.

Right.

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[-] 1 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 2 years ago

Your figures don't make sense. An 8% a year increase would double the number of students every 9 years. By 2006 there would be 16 times as many students as in 1970.

The fact that the number of students and teachers has increased does not support the statement that teachers unions are evil.

[-] 1 points by ComeTogetherNOW (650) 2 years ago

JR, you called it right. This thread is infected with trollish thinking.

Another case of: Your entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

[-] 0 points by delayedgrat (-157) 2 years ago

The increase in students over 42 years was 8%. It wasnt 8% yer, it is 8% total. Meaning if there were 3 million in 1970, now per year there are 3,240,000. We are teaching 240000 more students with 3.1 million more teachers.

[-] 1 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 2 years ago

1970 US population was about 200 million, now about 310 million. A little over a 50% increase. I would assume the increase in students would be similar.

It's hard to make a valid argument when the basic facts that support it are not accurate.

[-] 0 points by delayedgrat (-157) 2 years ago

In 1970 there were 3.8 million live births. In 2009 there were 4.1 million. Your assumptio n is wrong. It is difficult to argue points if one as yourself has a limited intellect.

[-] 1 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 2 years ago

You say "Since 1970, the number of teachers has gone from 3.3 million to 6.4 million"

What was the number of students in 1970 and now in 2012?

[-] 0 points by delayedgrat (-157) 2 years ago

Geez, I just put those numbers up! Again for the slow kids: 1970 3.8 million, 2009 4.1 million

[-] 1 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 2 years ago
[-] 0 points by delayedgrat (-157) 2 years ago

Yes. Good find.

[-] 0 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 2 years ago

2,059,000 public k-12 teachers in 1970

3,333,000 public k-12 teachers in 2012

An increase of 62%, while students only increased 8%.

http://nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/d05/tables/dt05_004.asp

The numbers differ by about 34% possibly because the cato figures include some non teaching positions.

[-] 1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 2 years ago

No one is failing the kids worse than the parents....

[-] 0 points by delayedgrat (-157) 2 years ago

Thats likely very true, also. I think we can agree that throwing more money at this very serious issue would be wasteful in the extreme.

[-] 1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 2 years ago

Its a total mystery to me where all the money goes. If it was going towards more teachers to shrink class sizes, I think that would be a good thing. If it is going towards new busses when the old ones work fine, I think that is where the waste comes in.

Ofcourse none of it matters if the kids dont realize to wait until called upon or/and cant sit still.

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 2 years ago

I have some peanuts for you, if you're really that hungry.

[-] 1 points by flip (5207) 2 years ago

is he smart enough to open the bag before he eats them?

[-] 1 points by writerconsidered123 (344) 2 years ago

enough said then