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Forum Post: How Obama Has Completely Alienated His Liberal Base [With links to all the facts]

Posted 6 years ago on Jan. 30, 2012, 9:45 p.m. EST by TrevorMnemonic (5827)
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Here's a list of real facts with credible sources that has lead me to understand that both parties are corrupt and that Obama is a fraud.

Wall Street's takeover of the Obama administration is now complete. "The mega-banks and their corporate allies control every economic policy position of consequence. Mr. Obama has moved rapidly since the November debacle to install business people where it counts most. Mr.William Daley from JP Morgan Chase as White House Chief of Staff. Mr. Gene Sperling from the Goldman Sachs payroll to be director of the National Economic Council. Eileen Rominger from Goldman Sachs named director of the SEC's Investment Management division. Even the National Security Advisor, Thomas Donilon, was executive vice president for law and policy at the disgraced Fannie Mae after serving as a corporate lobbyist with O'Melveny & Roberts. The keystone of the business friendly team was put in place on Friday. General Electric Chairman and CEO Jeffrey Immelt will serve as chair of the president's Council on Jobs and Competitiveness."


He supported the bailouts of a fraudulent financial system that is extracting wealth from our country and stealing people's pensions and homes. The bailout money was used by the federal reserve to create 7.7 trillion dollars out of thin air for their own private interest, and Obama has yet to do anything about it.


Obama's new campaign guy is a Wall Street lobbyist


"Is this the United States congress, or the board of directors of Goldman Sachs?"-Dennis Kucinich The Federal Reserve is not a government agency. Its a Ponzi scheme where they issue debt created from thin air and then they STEAL your tax money and put it in their wallets and their cronies' pockets. You know those trillions of dollars in government debt? Who do you think pays the interest on it?!?! WE DO! The Federal Reserve has no accountability and create trillions of dollars out of thin air for their own private interests all the while devaluing our US dollar. You don't see Obama trying to correct this fraudulent system.


In 2009, Obama himself appointed Michael Taylor as a senior adviser for the FDA even though Taylor had formerly served as a vice president for Monsanto.


He's bombed more countries than Bush. Countries like Libya, Pakistan, Yemen, Afghanistan... etc

His administration is also selling arms to the regime in Bahrain that is killing protesters.


He extended the Bush tax cuts.


Obama also supports ACTA which is essentially a global version of SOPA that applies to all goods.


He never actually closed guantanamo bay.


He lied about ending the wars in Iraq and the current withdrawal was scheduled by the Bush administration. And there is a billion dollar military base in Iraq and I guarantee you that it aint empty. The departure from Iraq was required by the 2008 Iraq-U.S. Status of Forces Agreement signed by Iraq Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki and then-President George W. Bush and approved by the Iraqi parliament, giving it the status of law. Once the troops left Iraq, big oil stayed.




Obama also turned his back on whistle blowers even though before his presidency he said they should be praised. A good man in the NSA named Thomas Drake spoke out against a system in the NSA that violates the 4th amendment as well as also speaking out against fraudulent acts, wasted funds, and more... and Obama supported Drake to be imprisoned. Eventually the charges were dropped against Drake but the Obama administration as used the espionage act more than Bush.


Obama also supported the patriot act, which essentially deletes the 4th amendment.


He's started unconstitutional acts of war against Libya, which he spoke out against when Bush did that to Iraq.


Obama signed for the indefinite detention of US citizens without trial into law under provisions of the NDAA and "designates the world as the battlefield and that includes the homeland." -quote senator Lindsey Graham who supported the bill and argued in it's favor.



“This bill [the NDAA] authorizes permanent warfare anywhere in the world. It gives the president unchecked power to pursue war. It diminishes the role of this Congress. The founders saw Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution, which places in the hands of Congress the war power, as essential to a check and balance against the executive abuse of power. This legislation diminishes Congress' role in that regard.” - Dennis Kucinich

In reference to the passing of the new NDAA the Armed Services Committee released this,"the threats posed by al Qaeda cells in Yemen and Africa underscore the evolving and continuing nature of the terrorist threat to the United States. The Conference Report ensures the United States will have the ability to meet this threat and neutralize terrorists from these groups and conduct effective interrogations." More war for Obama!


List of terrorist organizations our country could start war with and the countries they're in.


"This [the National Defense Authorization Act of 2011] designates the WORLD as the battlefield... and that includes the homeland."


Next stop Africa and Yemen!!! Maybe Iran or Syria next? Who knows? It's the government. It's a threat to national security to tell you the truth all the time.




“We suggest a distinctive tactic for breaking up the hard core of extremists who supply conspiracy theories: cognitive infiltration of extremist groups, whereby government agents or their allies (acting either virtually or in real space, and either openly or anonymously) will undermine the crippled epistemology of believers by planting doubts about the theories and stylized facts that circulate within such groups, thereby introducing beneficial cognitive diversity.” -Cass R Sunstein, Administrator of the White House Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs in the Obama administration. Oh and don't forget about this Hour long presentation in congress about Al Qaeda members being involved with the Libyan rebels, as well as extremists, rapists, and murderers.


In case any of you don't like the first video because it's a republican here is super Liberal Dennis Kucinich railing against Al Qaeda ties with the Libyan rebels as well.


And here is an article on the Libyan rebel leader admitting to having a bunch of Al Qaeda members in his "rebellion."


NATO commander questioned about Al Qaeda in Libya. Says "There's a flicker of Al Qaeda and Hezbollah among the rebels." Then he was asked, "Don't you think you should have looked into this more before you helped them?"


"Why don’t we say what’s on the minds of many legal experts; that the Obama administration is committing war crimes and if Bush should have been impeached, Obama should be impeached." - Nader

http://www.salon.com/2011/03/21/ralph_nader_obama_impeachment/ Another good article on the topic.


Essentially the Obama administration along with NATO replaced Gaddafi with another form of Gaddafi. They took out a murderer extremist and replaced him with murderer extremists. Very reminiscent of when the US and CIA helped out the Afghan Arabs and the Mujahideen in the 80's.

And to all the remaining Obama fans, of course the republicans suck a lot but the shittyness of the republicans doesn't make Obama a good president.

It's really sad that a lot of "democrats" just say "well Republicans are worse" when it comes to these issues. That's not the way to go about these problems we see in our country. Something actually needs to be done about both parties acting outside of the law and bankrupting the nation. Saying "well, republicans are worse" doesn't solve the problem. Obama works harder for Wall Street and the military industrial complex than he does for main street.

4 more years of Bush's war legacy! - Obama 2012



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[-] 1 points by jkarp (7) 6 years ago


Your comment, "And to all the remaining Obama fans, of course the republicans suck a lot but the shittyness of the republicans doesn't make Obama a good president." is extremely important for all of ows to understand and its one of the most intelligent statements on this forum that I have seen. Its an simple but critical message.

Obama seems like a nice guy, he looks very cool in his Ray-ban's and his $4000 dollar suits (who wouldn't look good), he can give an eloquent speech, he's charismatic and he's got campaigning down, but he is a horrible president and leader.

Clearly the OWS movement is made up mostly of a younger demographic and I believe that if Obama is re-elected that demographic- an entire generation, will be lost with extremely bleak economic prospects for what is likely going to be their entire lives and their children's as well. Obama mentioned the national debt only twice in his state of the union speech (and really it was alluded to more than mentioned) and he alluded to Obamacare, one time- the fact that his speech was light on these two huge problems is very telling of the "state of our union". He can't defend his record because he has failed. The country simply cannot afford this man's spending. It can't afford any more $500 million Solyndra scandals or trillion dollar stimulus packages, largely payed out to Obama's pet projects and the teaching, police and fireman jobs it did provide came at a cost of $185K each. When the U.S defaults, which it will unless huge cuts are made- which certainly won't come from Obama, and may not be deep enough even with the Republicans unless they win the house and senate and even if that happens, their constituents will have to be at their heels hold their feet to the fire. That push isn't going to come from ows, even though they are the ones who will be most harmed when the US defaults.But the majority of them will vote for Obama like sheep going to slaughter.

11 Reasons Why Occupy Wall Street Protesters Are Hypocrites If They Do Not Call For Barack Obama To Resign


"If the Occupy Wall Street protesters truly believed in the things that they are proclaiming, then they would be calling for the immediate resignation of Barack Obama and his entire cabinet. The truth is that the Obama administration is responsible for most of the things that Occupy Wall Street is supposedly complaining about. If the Occupy Wall Street protesters were intellectually honest, we would see a flood of anti-Obama signs during these demonstrations. But instead we have barely heard a peep of criticism for Obama. In fact, the vast majority of the protesters seem very excited about sending Obama back to the White House in 2012. As will be clearly demonstrated in the rest of this article, this makes the Occupy Wall Street protesters tremendous hypocrites. If Occupy Wall Street wants to have any credibility whatsoever, it needs to call for Barack Obama to resign. Either Occupy Wall Street protesters will call for Barack Obama to be held accountable for his actions, or they are just a bunch of sheep. They cannot preach to us about how principled they are and yet turn a blind eye to everything that Barack Obama has been doing for the past 3 years......."

[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 6 years ago

OWS does not support any candidate. I post this kind of material on here because there are a lot of individual people who still support Obama, particularly on this site. My experience with an OWS chapter in my city is not a Obama rally at all. Most people in the group do not approve of Obama and think he's a war monger like Bush. But there are some that still support Obama. I do think calling for the impeachment of Obama as well as asking him to stand down during the 2012 election would have been awesome. We need real democrats to vote for. Dennis Kucinich should have been the president in 2012. Obama running again closes a lot of door's to real options. The 2012 election will be among the worst in history.

[-] 0 points by GypsyKing (8719) 6 years ago

Yeah, Let's elect Romney! That'll show him!

[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 6 years ago

Dumbest comment ever. What does Mitt Romney have to do with anything that I posted here. Read the end of the post. There's a closer just for people like you.

"And to all the remaining Obama fans, of course the republicans suck a lot but the shittyness of the republicans doesn't make Obama a good president.

It's really sad that a lot of "democrats" just say "well Republicans are worse" when it comes to these issues. That's not the way to go about these problems we see in our country. Something actually needs to be done about both parties acting outside of the law and bankrupting the nation. Saying "well, republicans are worse" doesn't solve the problem. Obama works harder for Wall Street and the military industrial complex than he does for main street."

[-] 1 points by GypsyKing (8719) 6 years ago

I agree with everything you say here, but if you will read my further comment you will see the jist of what I am saying. It is actually very simple reasoning.

Firstly, It is practically inconceivable that we can overturn the two party system between now and November.

Secondly, given that fact we are almost certain to be given a choice between Obama and Romney, who should we chose?

Thirdly, to put Romney in the presidensy gives the Republicans, the unabashed puppets of the 1%, control of ALL this countries institutions of power.

Do you think that is a positive prospect? I think not.

What we need to do therefore, in my opinion, is to elect Obama in the November election to stave off the disaster of another Republican juggernaut, and then immediately turn to creating a third party, to end the two party death grip on our democracy.

Is there a flaw in this reasoning? If so, I would appreciate it if you would point it out.

[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 6 years ago

Yes. If people didn't support frauds and looked into who they were voting for, then no democrat would vote for Obama again in 2012 and instead would vote third party which would get us a third party president.

It's hopeful, but I'd rather stick to my principles than support a fraud.

[-] 1 points by GypsyKing (8719) 6 years ago

I respect that. Personally I just have too much horror at the prospect of a Republican lock on power to agree. Yet, we are essentally in agreement.

Thanks for the talk, it's been a really worthwhile subject to discuss.

[-] -3 points by NKVD (55) 6 years ago

Give it up. Too many of these Marxist/liberal/ anarchist/fecal matter will only defend that garbage. You might as well post to vegetables as try to convince them that their magic negro ( the culmination of the last 47 years of propaganda) will not save them. He's the same as any other politician regardless of party. But they are too stupid to understand.

[-] 1 points by JesseHeffran (3903) 6 years ago

I hear people like you cut down the parties with generalities but never have solutions. If you are the wisest, what would you suggest? You sound like an idiot when you use general statements like " Marxist/liberal/ anarchist/fecal matter " but what would some one who deals in name calling do if he/she was in a position to influence? would you deal in name calling or solutions? Or would you just say vote for the red team they are infallible. And remember it's easy calling everyone who does not agree with you stupid, in fact, I'm thinking it right now about you.