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Forum Post: How Many More Shootings Will It Take? YOUR Child, Spouse, Sibling, Parent, Neighbor, Friend???

Posted 5 months ago on Nov. 6, 2013, 6:35 a.m. EST by WSmith (5271) from Cornelius, OR
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What's Our Government Doing To Stop Daily Deadly Shootings? Not Much

Gun legislation stalls as violence becomes a daily part of our lives.

["It's the people, not the guns." BULLSHIT! No Gun, No Shootings!!]

Peter Zachariadis | November 1, 2013

The .223-caliber Bushmaster rifle is similar to one of the primary weapons used in the tragic Sandy Hook School massacre in Newtown, Connecticut. (Photo by Christopher Lane/Getty; Design by Lauren Wade)

For many Americans, the names of the locations alone have become synonymous with painful memories of gun violence and mass murder: Newtown. Aurora. Ft. Hood. Virginia Tech.

Add Los Angeles International Airport to the list of public places rocked by gun violence, after a 23-year-old man shot and killed a Transportation Security Administration officer with an assault rifle while trying to breach a checkpoint on Friday morning. Whether the man had a permit for the assault weapon has not been determined, but a ban on such weapons may have prevented the attack.

Despite an ever-growing and ever-troubling number of deadly shootings, getting any momentum on an issue like gun control is going to be a tough sell within a Congress that forced a government shutdown, said Ladd Everitt, a spokesman for the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence.

“We’re all victims of a process that is broken,” Everitt said. “The reason they’re reluctant to do anything is gridlock... You have to have a level of crisis to get anything done. What moves the Republican Party is their own survival.”

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That survival might depend on a populace that is fed up with gun massacres—and willing to act on it.

Despite polling that suggested 90% of Americans favored more stringent background checks for gun buyers, a renewal of the assault weapons ban and a limitation on high-capacity magazines, the U.S. Senate failed to pass the measures last April. That, despite President Barack Obama making it one of the cornerstones of his second term after 20 children and six adults were murdered at Sandy Hook Elementary School on Dec. 14, 2012.

But Republicans aren't alone in opposing gun control.

Earlier California's Gov. Jerry Brown, a leading Democrat, vetoed bills to restrict the sale and posession of semi-automatic assault weapons saying they won't reduce criminal activity enough to warrant infringement on gun owners' rights. And other Democrats may be scared off of backing tougher controls after Democrats in Colorado were recalled from office for doing so.

The last concrete legislation that addressed the issue of controlling guns was the federal Assault Weapons Ban of 1994. As the ban was set to expire in 2004, the Violence Policy Center in Washington D.C. recommended ways to extend and expand the legislation by including more types of assault weapons in the ban, that the definition of “assault weapon” be improved to include more dangerous weapons, and that the import of high-capacity magazines be banned.

Those recommendations went unheeded, the ban expired, and there has been no move to renew it. Efforts to expand background checks to include gun shows and online sales has met heavy resistance. Even the prospect of limiting high-capacity magazines sent gun rights advocates scrambling to amass them amid fears of stricter legislation. Those fears proved to be unfounded due in no large part to a Congress that refused to bow to a majority of Americans in favor of tighter rules.

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President Obama called for the formation of a Gun Violence Task Force headed by Vice President Joseph Biden after the school massacre to make recommendations on proposed legislation. When the legislation faltered with a majority of GOP leaders opposing it, he called the failure a “shameful day for Washington.” A phone call and questions submitted to the Vice President’s office about the task force’s future role in gun control legislation went unanswered Friday.

At first, Everitt and his supporters were surprised by the quiet death of the federal Assault Weapons Ban, but now he sees the problems in Congress as something far more serious than ideology.

“Compromise is not a dirty word,” Everitt said. “It’s something far broader than guns. It’s the inability of government to function on routine matters.”

His organization continues to work on promoting gun control legislation, but that might not happen until after the mid-term elections of 2014.

Those elections might prove pivotal in voting out members of Congress who are completely against gun control, he said. Those elections may be the only way to relieve the gridlock.

“We have to go into the mid-terms by supporting those people who voted the right way and withholding support from those who were wrong,” Everitt said.

http://www.takepart.com/article/2013/11/01/heres-what-your-government-doing-stop-shootings-kill-americans-every-day?cmpid=tp-ptnr-alternet

Demand and End to Gun Violence: http://takeaction.takepart.com/actions/demand-end-gun-violence?cmpid=tp-ptnr-tab-d84909c52edcceb20c7bba62052b1b01

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[-] 3 points by ZenDog (20555) from South Burlington, VT 5 months ago

never mind the nra freaks - just tell'em every term is a made up term. It's called English. It's in a constant state of evolution. The Bushmaster .223 is an M-16 knock off designed for the civilian market - it's not a hunting rifle, unless of course, you plan on hunting Koch.suckers . . .

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That issue aside - what we have with the LAX shooting is yet one more last kid picked

The last kid picked usually comes preloaded with a variety of conditioned responses, some of them ptsd related; they usually lack either the social skills, or the will itself, or both, to negotiate a reduction in any artificially produced escalation in a signal to noise ratio that incorporates negative stimuli for the purposes of conditioning.

You can ban all the fire arms in the world, and it will not stop madness of this nature. There are a variety of kitchen implements suitable to the production of mass murder, not to mention any number of vulnerabilities within the social infrastructure itself which would not require use of a fire arm to produce mass casualties.

I wish you would just accept it. Behavioral engineering is a crime against humanity.

[-] 1 points by WSmith (5271) from Cornelius, OR 5 months ago

Our for profit "Health Care" System and our antiquated Wild West gun laws are two things we desperately need to catch up with the rest of the world on.

[-] -1 points by RadBrad (-29) 5 months ago

The only reason the majority of weapons used during mass shootings are bought legally is the shooters either know they are going to die or want to die after they kill as many as they can. The vast majority of gun crime is committed through illegally purchased weapons in the states that are often brought from overseas criminal organizations such as the IRA or the Russian and Arminian mafias. That are then sold and distributed to criminal organizations in the US. It is really easy to purchase an illegal firearm.

[-] 3 points by WSmith (5271) from Cornelius, OR 5 months ago

We have a SICK & TWISTED Gun Culture paired with a 24/365 Hate-Wing Propaganda machine that circularly feeds & reinforces &defends a Pathological Obsession with shooting people. Take away the weapons like other countries (and gun shops) do, and turn off the propaganda. What we have now is COMPLETE ABJECT INSANITY!!!

[-] 1 points by WSmith (5271) from Cornelius, OR 5 months ago

Study: Americans Safe from Gun Violence Except in Schools, Malls, Airports, Movie Theatres, Workplaces, Streets, Own Homes

Posted by Andy Borowitz | November 6, 2013

WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)—A new study released today indicates that Americans are safe from the threat of gun violence except in schools, malls, airports, movie theatres, workplaces, streets, and their own homes.

Also: highways, turnpikes, libraries, places of worship, parks, universities, restaurants, post offices, and cars.

Plus: driveways, garages, gyms, stores, military bases—and a host of other buildings, structures, and sites.

National Rifle Association C.E.O. Wayne LaPierre applauded the study, saying that it reinforced his organization’s long-held position that the United States does not need additional gun laws. “This study makes it abundantly clear that Americans are in no danger of gun violence except in these isolated four hundred and thirteen places,” he said.

He added that he hoped that the study would spark a conversation “about the root cause of mass shootings: people who recklessly show up at places where they could be shot at.”

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/borowitzreport/2013/11/study-americans-safe-from-gun-violence-except-in-schools-malls-airports-movie-theatres-workplaces-st.html?utm_source=tny&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=borowitz&mbid=nl_Borowitz%20%28194%29

[-] 0 points by greenanarchosyndicalist (85) 5 months ago

i have thought a lot about this and i am for the enforcement of present laws and the closing of any loopholes but any kind of registry is a no go with our current government under corporate capture.

[-] -2 points by RadBrad (-29) 5 months ago

I don't mean to get technical but "assault rifle" is a made up term. He didn't use an "assault rifle", it was a semi automatic rifle. You need to provide the correct information.

[-] 2 points by WSmith (5271) from Cornelius, OR 5 months ago
[+] -4 points by RadBrad (-29) 5 months ago

I've seen it, there are a lot of errors and downright lies in it. http://whatculture.com/film/5-reasons-why-bowling-for-columbine-is-not-a-real-documentary.php/2

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[-] -2 points by Narley (-634) 5 months ago

Wow, did you really just suggest that someone commit suicide? Don't you think you crossed the line? Your post should have been removed immediately.

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[-] -1 points by Narley (-634) 5 months ago

It's not funny.

[-] 2 points by shooz (26741) 5 months ago

You're correct. It's not. Color it gone.

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[-] -1 points by RadBrad (-29) 5 months ago

What kind of a point are you trying to make.

[-] 2 points by WSmith (5271) from Cornelius, OR 4 months ago

Luv UR gun!

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 5 months ago

very few people are needed to run the new economy

[-] -2 points by Narley (-634) 5 months ago

WSmith told someone to put a gun to their head and pull the trigger. Basically telling him to commit suicide. Don't try to change the subject. He should have the decency to delete the post.

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[-] -3 points by HCHC4 (-28) 5 months ago

Stop the violence here? When they are busy dropping bombs on villages??!

Instead of pandering to the government, perhaps asking what you and your immediate community are doing should be the process?

Chances are the answer is nothing. So why would you expect DC to do anything?

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