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Forum Post: How can Occupiers repond to the OWS DNA-Murder story out of NYC ???

Posted 8 years ago on July 11, 2012, 10:15 a.m. EST by OccNoVi (415)
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We are getting a 15-minute news recycle on a connection of Occupy Wall Street with a murder here in New York. There is a chance that a long-time woman-killer has gotten himself tied in with OWS Direct Action.

The murder, here, goes back to 2004 when a female jogger, Sarah Fox, then 21, was attacked in Inwood Hill Park, stripped naked and strangled. She was a Juilliard student. After that murder NYPD turned out 250 recruits to search the park for any trace of Ms. Fox. They found her clothing and the CD player.

Her player was found in the park days later. DNA was found that did not match her DNA. Now a chain used to lock open subway entrance has yielded DNA that matches what was found on the Sarah Fox CD player.

Here is a video of the people who used the chain:

-- http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/03/31/masked-figures-invite-riders-at-3-subway-stations-to-ride-free/

If you are on the video, contact a lawyer. Offer assistance.

From NY Times: Dr. Lawrence Koblinsky, a forensics expert at John Jay College of Criminal Justice, said the DNA link was a major clue in the investigation, one that could potentially break the case.

“You’ve got the same DNA left at two distinct sites," said Koblinsky. "Until they find the individual who left that DNA, we won’t know. But the likelihood is high the person who left that DNA on the CD player is the killer of Sarah Fox.”

First thing is a worry that the woman-killer is active in OWS Direct Action and thus a threat to Occupy women.

That's a no-brainer.

Second, if you are active personally with OWS Direct Action then you might be able to help out. NYPD aren't interested in the Open Subway stunt. Putting a woman-killer off the streets is the big community project.

-- The subway protest connected to the DNA bearing the chain was at Beverly Road subway station in East Flatbush on March 28, 2012.

Obviously nobody really wants anarchy. Who would want to live in a world of lawlessness? As in letting killers run wild?

If OWS can help solve the Sarah Fox murder, then "Yeah, Team !!"



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[-] 4 points by frogmanofborneo (602) from New York, NY 8 years ago

OccuNovi, being that this slander was an "error" maybe you (or the moderators) should consider removing this harmful and erroneous post.

ADAM MARTIN JUL 11, 2012 It's not quite Dewey Defeats Truman, but The New York Post may come to regret its "OWS Murder Link" headline now that The New York Times is reporting that a DNA match supposedly linking a 2004 killing to a March protest was the result of a laboratory error. The Post is already citing a source calling it "a total screw-up."

The latest report is still pretty thin but it sure casts doubt on an already unlikely story. On Tuesday, NBC New York first reported that a chain found at a March protest had DNA that was also found on a CD player belonging to Sarah Fox, whose 2004 murder has never been solved. As The Atlantic Wire's Dashiell Bennett noted earlier, "the chain could have come from anywhere and been handled by dozens of people in the past eight years," so the link always was pretty tenuous.

A source inside told The Times' William Rashbaum that the DNA found on a chain used by a protester to lock a subway door open, which matched DNA found on a CD player belonging to Sarah Fox, whose 2004 murder has never been solved, came from a lab technician. "The O.C.M.E. tainted the samples and it was the O.C.M.E. supervisor’s whose DNA was on both," Rashbaum quoted his unnamed source as saying. Spokeswoman Ellen S. Borakove said "We’ve excluded all medical examiner personnel."

Anyway, there's one thing we've learned from all this, it's that the New York Police Department took DNA samples from a piece of evidence involved in a protest whose greatest crime was vandalism.

Now that is news worth talking about!

[-] 0 points by OccNoVi (415) 8 years ago

That does not match what we know about both the Sarah Fox murder and the use of the New York State DNA database.

All lab techs and police employees are registered in the state database.

When the DNA sample was developed off the chain, if it had been "tainted" as described then the person doing it would have had to be dumber than the proverbial fencepost to use a lab tech's DNA. We also know as reliable fact that the ID'd individuals in the database were eliminated on the first pass through.

One possibility: an individual from outside the U.S. who comes here on criminal business now and then. He also kills women.

[-] 2 points by frogmanofborneo (602) from New York, NY 8 years ago

'One possibility: an individual from outside the U.S. who comes here on criminal business now and then. He also kills women." THAT'S SOME HEAVY SHIT. What do you do with that information?

[-] 1 points by OccNoVi (415) 8 years ago

Foreign involvement with OWS has been on the negative side.

That young woman in Oakland with the sign saying "All My Heroes KILL COPS" is the daughter of an Italian politician. Flown in for the day.

Somebody got roughly $25,000,000 to go rat-fucking. That's a guess, obviously.

As to passing on info: that's where friends at NYPD and the Prosecutor's Office are helpful. It's mostly very competent people over there.