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Forum Post: How are we going to stop the flood of GOP voter fraud without voter ID?

Posted 2 years ago on March 16, 2012, 12:34 a.m. EST by BLOWCHUNKS (43)
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[-] 1 points by shooz (26738) 1 year ago

No problem.

Stop voter fraud by stopping the GOP.

It's how they get elected.

http://eclectablog.com/2012/07/michigan-gop-house-speaker-jase-bolger-new-republican-roy-schmidt-found-to-have-committed-gross-election-fraud.html

It's been a long, long time since they employed any semblance of honesty.

[-] 1 points by shooz (26738) 2 years ago

It's not like ID, is the only way people commit voter fraud.

http://motherjones.com/mojo/2011/06/did-mitt-romney-commit-voter-fraud

[-] 0 points by lisa (425) 2 years ago

Do you want to get RFID? That is part of why they complain about id related issues.

[-] 3 points by epa1nter (4650) from Rutherford, NJ 2 years ago

None of the fraud in these cases had the slightest thing to do with IDs, but with issues like misrepresentation of a ballot issue, or putting up someone running as a particular party member who is not a member of that party or of illegally not counting votes.

The average voters were honest. It was what was done to get their votes (or discard them) by the party apparatus that was not.

Voter ID laws are meant to suppress the ordinary voter, overwhelmingly poor and minority (and therefore Democratic) not fix genuine voter fraud as documented by these articles. Those were laws written By ALEC and enacted by the very Republican politicians whose has committed the greatest instances of fraud in recent memory, including, but not limited to the election of Bush in 2000. That fraud was, as were these, the result of party hacks in power, not the electorate.

[-] 3 points by epa1nter (4650) from Rutherford, NJ 2 years ago

There have been a tiny handful of cases of individuals convicted of fraudulently voting in the past 4 or years. About 5 or 6 involving someone trying to vote twice. About 40 overall for the entire country. This after a sustained, multi-year, massive Justice Department push to ferret out the problem. HUGE problem, huh?

BTW, I don't believe one word of that anonymous web page about Acorn in which not a single entry contained a source of "information". In fact I remember reading about these allegations a couple of years ago and how it was all completely debunked.

This entire issue is a Koch/ALEC sponsored disinformation campaign designed to suppress the votes of minorities, the disabled, the elderly and college students. It is raw partisan politics as transparent as glass.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/10/opinion/the-myth-of-voter-fraud.html

The Wisconsin students alone referred to in this article represent a suppression of nearly 10% of the entire electorate in the state.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/five-myths-about-voter-fraud/2011/10/04/gIQAkjoYTL_story.html

http://www.advancementproject.org/digital-library/publications/whats-wrong-with-this-picture-new-photo-id-proposals-part-of-national-p

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7oMjgrPnEE&feature=related&hd=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iY3nlMXJPc&feature=related&hd=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwOTm3ShQh0&feature=related&hd=1

http://www.cornellpress.cornell.edu/book/?GCOI=80140100774960

http://www.brennancenter.org/content/resource/voting_law_changes_in_2012

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwOTm3ShQh0&feature=related&hd=1

[-] 0 points by JuanFenito (847) 2 years ago

Why don't they start fraudulently voting though? What is preventing large corporations from hiring people to stuff ballot boxes? They do it at the congressional level, why not at the polls? Of course the justice department, run and paid for by the 1%, is not going to find out what they are doing.

If there is not a problem now, why isn't there?