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Forum Post: House panel okays $33 billion in food stamp cuts

Posted 2 years ago on April 18, 2012, 8:59 p.m. EST by gestopomillyy (1695)
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[-] 2 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 2 years ago

Sorry bro, but the Senate shot down the oil subsidies. The country is dead broke, and both parties, along with the people who elect them, are to blame.

Its going to get worse before it gets better, assuming we stay focused on Ipads and sneakers.

[-] 1 points by gestopomillyy (1695) 2 years ago

no you are misinformed. they did not stop oil subsidies. you are still paying out 14 billion dollars a year plus 4 bucks a gallon. this was may 2011

Democratic bill to end oil subsidies is defeated in the Senate


[-] 0 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 2 years ago

Sorry, that is what I was trying to say, they bowed down to the energy oligarchy as usual.

[-] 1 points by FriendlyObserverB (1871) 2 years ago

This is all the result of unfettered profits in a "free market" system. Had there been a cap on sales profits we would not be in this predicament. ...............

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 2 years ago

that was a bad move

food stamps provided a base income to empower(feed) the people

[-] 1 points by zoom6000 (430) from St Petersburg, FL 2 years ago

The gov are panicking,food stamp normally used to buy food from wallmart and the big guys

[-] 1 points by 4TheHumanSocietyProject (504) 2 years ago

Im sorry to say this... But we are fucked and we have been fucked. All that we can do is wait for shit to hit the fan and Pandora's box to be open.

[-] 1 points by gestopomillyy (1695) 2 years ago

so true

[-] 1 points by TheMisfit (48) 2 years ago

“I am for doing good to the poor, but...I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. I observed...that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer.” ― Benjamin Franklin

[-] 1 points by gestopomillyy (1695) 2 years ago

that may have been true 200 yrs ago.. to day.. there are no jobs, no land , no work, no opportunity unless you already have the money to pay for that opportunity when you see a guy standing with a sign that says. will work for food.. do you give him a job? no you shake your head in derision cause you dont want that lowlife working with you. this is food. not money if you want money, why would you take it from poor working people and not from oil companies? not from paying farmers to not grow food? not from wars?

[-] 1 points by DanielBarton (1345) 2 years ago

there is thousands of jobs open in the skilled labor department just no one wants to have these trade jobs anymore

[-] 1 points by gestopomillyy (1695) 2 years ago

really,, send me a link to these job openings. you wont cause they do not exist.

[-] 1 points by gestopomillyy (1695) 2 years ago

that doesnt sound like a job you can just go out an get. by the time you learn that trade.. wasting 4 years of your life, they will again shut down 36% of the companies. and you wont know how to do anything worth knowing. try again. .

[-] 1 points by DanielBarton (1345) 2 years ago

it takes a year or two to get the skills. Plus most companies will train you on spot so you can work while learning. Also many high schools offer these skills to students that wish to pursue them.

This is the biggest problem in america we have to many people going to college and not going to a trade school. Our society has wormed it into our minds that we must go to college to be successful. This is not true at all. That has also had a bad effect on the tuition and job market by over saturation of degrees and people.

There is careers for those willing to work for them

[-] 1 points by gestopomillyy (1695) 2 years ago

thats where you are wrong.. there are very few schools that offer shop classes any longer as it is seen as a useless career goal. besides the fact that doesnt help any of the millions that have been working for 10-25 yrs already and cant find jobs. and it is true.. the story itself told you that from 98 to 10 that particular type of company,, not just job, but entire companies fell 36%. you might now want to start with the dont need college stuff.. but its useless to the current problem. besides the fact that that one job will not employ 15 million workers that have had thier jobs eliminated. maybe it would hold 1000 what do you suggest for the others?

[-] 0 points by DanielBarton (1345) 2 years ago

Well i dont know well what to tell you but the demand for skilled laboors is going through the roof. We have to import skilled labors in because we dont have the people willing to do the work in United States. i know this for a fact it is a huge problem in the manufacturing world

where are you getting these numbers and data



[-] 2 points by gestopomillyy (1695) 2 years ago

i wouldnt say 'not willing' i would say the companies are not willing to train them. i read the link and it said that ' we have very few unskilled positions'. these are 'apprenticeship ' type jobs. why havent the companies been training any one? did they think skill would just magically appear in the workforce? they must have known that the old guys would eventually retire. do you think that some one that spent 5 years in school and 10 years as a 'suit' would have the slightest idea of how to preform skilled labor? most of the guys i know that are 'suits; cant even change the oil in a car much less operate complex tools. i suppose the IIC should have foreseen this problem.

[-] 1 points by DanielBarton (1345) 2 years ago

well no but i witnessed it a the public schools fault.

My school used to have alot of skilled labor jobs so you could go into the work force after school. But they decided that it was a bad thing to do so they pushed college and kept on pushing college. The public schools said you must go to college to have a good life. It was garbage i know now that you dont need to have a good life . If i became a welder i could make 100k a year 60k minimum.

your right about that it takes time train and they should of know but the blame can not be put on them. They dont want want jobs to go overseas it looks bad and is bad for them. Since we do make the better products

[-] 1 points by TheMisfit (48) 2 years ago

Check the job posting sites. Indeed.com has new job postings daily. You can search by zip, city or state and keyword. There are a lot of jobs out there, but the competition is fierce for skilled positions. Some people may need to swallow their pride and take a job that might not be as good as their last one. I know that I did and many of my friends have as well, but it is better than expecting the government to pay my way.

[-] 1 points by cJessgo (729) from Port Jervis, PA 2 years ago

It"s called "Let them eat cake".

[-] 1 points by gestopomillyy (1695) 2 years ago

well at least they will stop with that . lets all get healthy bullcrap.. kids will be eating outa dumpsters.

[-] 1 points by cJessgo (729) from Port Jervis, PA 2 years ago

Sounds like the plan.