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Forum Post: Hitler can happen here, and so can Stalin

Posted 12 years ago on Oct. 23, 2011, 5:53 p.m. EST by darrenlobo (204)
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When dictatorship comes to America it won't come from left or right, it will come from both, together, as a welfare/warfare corporatist state.

We already have most of it in place.




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[-] 3 points by HapteMikael (162) 12 years ago

So can tired, bad cliches.

[-] 2 points by RantCasey (782) from Saginaw, MI 12 years ago

So can ghandi or Lincoln appear here

[-] 1 points by mgiddin1 (1057) from Linthicum, MD 12 years ago

Great post! The fight against fascism will unite the tea party types, the libertarians, and the left.

[-] 1 points by riethc (1149) 12 years ago

It's coming on faster than you think!


[-] 1 points by powpow80 (10) 12 years ago

Hitler believed in cradle to grave government, universal health care, he was a vegan and a big enviornmentalist. He hated ALL religion with a passion. He was a national socialist.(communists were international socialists. He loved huge government that controlled every single facet of life. He vilified a small sector of the population(jews) to rally against. Hey its that 1% again!! Go Get them! Hitler hated the communists mainly because its founder Marx was jewish. Be very careful here folks. Stalin had a phrase refering to the 99%...Useful idiots. Please don't repeat the mistakes of the past. If you want to fix america Its simple. 1 Return to the constitution 2 Abolish the Federal reserve and return to the gold standard. 3 Reinstitute Glass Steegal.

Of course we wont do this...the Fed will print money until we collapse because thats the cowardly and politically easy thing to do.

Best of luck out there,

[-] 1 points by Shalimar (167) from Martinsville, IN 12 years ago

Today with the U.S. as it is I think it would be very hard for a dictator to come to power. We have weapons that 1930s Europe never did - almost everyone has a phone, camera, instant messaging, internet connection - we are not isolated peasants. Secrecy is the dictator's biggest weapon. Well, every since the camera phone and the internet secrecy is getting harder and harder.

[-] 1 points by darrenlobo (204) 12 years ago

They work hard to stop us from videoing them. Some resources for fighting the police state: http://www.copblock.org/


[-] 1 points by riethc (1149) 12 years ago

"everyone has a phone, camera, instant messaging, internet connection..."

Provided to you by whom?

[-] 1 points by Shalimar (167) from Martinsville, IN 12 years ago

It isn't by whom, but that they exist at all. I guess I should have said "everyone has access to a phone..."

To answer your question directly: Provided by Verizon ;-) but also by our hard work and years of employment.

[-] 1 points by riethc (1149) 12 years ago

Have you heard of the BART incident? The internet "kill switch"? Phones and internet connections can be shut down.

[-] 1 points by Shalimar (167) from Martinsville, IN 12 years ago

I said "Today with the U.S. as it is" - not well maybe someday if someone did something. TODAY! If our power grid could blow and we'd all go back to the stone age and ripe for a dictator or tribal rule. Or if...

Europe in the 1930s was a much different place than the U.S. is today with or without the "kill switch". EVERYTHING would have to go off at once and do you really think greedy big business would allow that?

[-] 1 points by riethc (1149) 12 years ago

I think it's a problem when people believe their cameras and phones can keep them free and safe. The political power supplied to us by these gadgets come from same kind of people we are protesting against. They can just as easily take away that power once it becomes disadvantageous to them for us to have it.

[-] 1 points by Shalimar (167) from Martinsville, IN 12 years ago

Those who have that power is big business and do you really think Apple, Verizon, etc, are going to lose a dime because a politician is mad? Think again. That's how we got into this mess in the first place. Corporate greed always tops political greed!

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 12 years ago

well said

[-] 1 points by Samcitt (136) 12 years ago

I don't want to come across as dramatic but I think America will split eventually because it won't be able to manage the whole country anymore, perhaps into two or three smaller nations built around a cluster of states. Then you can have several dictators of various ideologies and have warlords for those who live in between the nations!

[-] 0 points by jgriff (6) from Tampa, FL 12 years ago

We already have one. FAscism is running rampant, and we have a man in power who is bombing 6 different countries. Probably more. What more do we need to say this shit is beyond corrupt.

[-] 0 points by Lockean (671) from New York, NY 12 years ago

"Therefore Fascism is opposed to Socialism, which confines the movement of history within the class struggle and ignores the unity of classes established in one economic and moral reality in the State; and analogously it is opposed to class syndicalism..."[ -Mussolini

"Socialism! That is an unfortunate word altogether... What does socialism really mean? If people have something to eat and their pleasures, then they have their socialism." -Hitler

"If it is admitted that the nineteenth century has been the century of Socialism, Liberalism and Democracy, it does not follow that the twentieth must also be the century of Liberalism, Socialism and Democracy. Political doctrines pass; peoples remain. It is to be expected that this century may be that of authority, a century of the 'Right,' a Fascist century" -Mussolini

Further fascism is distinctly anti-egalitarian. It is rabid nationalism, anti-communism, anti-liberalism, pro-scapegoating, pro-elite, pro-authority, pro-military. It is of the right. It is of capital and corporatism.