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Forum Post: High School Students of Today

Posted 3 years ago on Nov. 12, 2011, 6:44 p.m. EST by NortonSound (176)
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Any one with a high school education today is ten times smarter than any one running a job-killing corporation. They are working harder, serving better and moving up at a fantastic rate in areas that are becoming essential, that corporations of olde have not even thought of yet. The olde corporations are finding it harder to attract talent, because they have lost the long term plan young talent requires. With the price of American based factory space at an all-time low, young job-creating corporations are being born today that in ten years will be the models for the new economy we all pray for.

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[-] 1 points by ztohovey (11) 1 year ago

Hi,

My name's Ava, I'm a high school student in the Chicago area. I started Occupy High School (occupyhighschool.org) 2 years ago with Occupy Chicago. Now, we have about 50 high schools signed up with us--and an opportunity to merge with Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) has come up, as Occupy Colleges recently merged with SDS. We really want to reach out to more high schools and tell them about this, especially in time for the spring Days of Action for Education. Please email occupyhighschool@gmail.com for more info, and visit our website! We need to get in touch to start organizing NOW!

Thanks!

[-] 1 points by Slugsalt (13) 3 years ago

The OWS movement from teen to 60+ is extremely not in touch with the working class and below young community. Ihave watched carefully to see if any measurable groups of urban minorities to show up and support OWS. I am a child of activists raised as a small white minority in Washington heights. I raised my kids, the 17-22 year Old s you speak of and they see nothing representative of the culture that they were raised amongst and are most welcome (latin American). The kids that I see at the protests don't go to. 1%anglo terrible city schools that they are zoned in. They are kids with the option and funds to play protest. Come to the area in all 5 Boroughs that are glad for a bed and realize that I f they stopped keeping their extended families fed and protested they might as well goback to the terrible poverty that they escaped from. Stop giving out free tents and come to the hoods and aquaint yourselfwith the people. Theyare not at Zuccoti park. And highschool? Nyc has a below 60 %grad rate. You are still the most affluent gang in the lunchroom.

[-] 1 points by NortonSound (176) 3 years ago

I'm not there eiter, as most posters I assume, are just networking and sharing perceptions, because what is going on at OWS and other demonstrations is nothing compared with what a few misguided corporate chiefs have done to this nation. Innovation comes mostly from the young, and they are networking there, and here on this forum and will eventually settle on a direction that they feel confident will be a path to American jobs, benefits and a return to a country that actually cares for itself. 60%^ HS graduation is not bad, a diploma is just a piece of paper for many who have made it to the top on their own merits, self study and most truly brilliant people I have met tell me that school was only a small part of their learning, once they learned how to learn, they taught themselves much more than any school could provide. Because we do not have to fear to express ourselves in this country, we do not have to worry that the bandits are running our towns, we do not have to worry that a political boss might want to take away our business, we don't have to worry that some disease is in our water or our food, we don't hae to worry that our kids might be harmed in school, we have the latitude to improve ourselves, and take back the American capital, unused factories, office space and un-developed innovation that the young will surely champion, as is always the case from the beginning of time. And the young are always mocked by the establishment, who are only showing their fear of the young replacing their old ideas with new innovation. The work well with experienced older labor and management, but don't expect them to react well to being disrespected, and don't turn them a deaf ear, or you might miss something worth living for.

[-] 1 points by Slugsalt (13) 3 years ago

You missed the point. You are not representative of the growing latino community and or the black youth. You remind me of all the phish/jam band shows I went to when I was in the infancy of adulthood. I noticed the amazing lack of racial mixing. I see the same at the Occupy protests. I have asked many of my neighbors why this is. The common answer is that you (the protesters) have no clue how good you have it, and that they came here to make lives for themselves (this country represents the possibility of a monetary miracle). The protests are against all the reasons for their families journeys here. Send some of the Zuccoti park squatters into the real ny and let them explain why the occupation is good for ny.

[-] 1 points by NortonSound (176) 3 years ago

Youth learn in nonlinear ways. I am sure that there is a representation of all peoples currently living in this country there, and if not, there will be, and they are all welcome. Who does not welcome them are the few powerful corporations and corrupt politicians who want their masters to remain masters forever, and not give youth a chance to shine.

[-] 1 points by thezencarpenter (131) 3 years ago

your last point is a very good one. These bloated corporations will fail when they run out of resources, both physical and human, to exploit. And when no one will bail them out they will leave this valuable residue for the next generation to reassemble into the new reality we are hoping for. Good luck to them!

[-] 1 points by NortonSound (176) 3 years ago

Thank you so much I only hope there are many more reading this post as we begin to realize how to capitalize on the gaping niche the low-thinking corporate chiefs have left wide open for enterprising Americans. That day is now! Today, would not be too soon. There is invaluable capital left behind right here for Americans to grab for a song and start turning this crisis around.

[-] 1 points by thezencarpenter (131) 3 years ago

Think about the Phrase that became popular during the bailouts "Too big to fail". It's helpful to look at what this phrase really means. What happens in nature when something becomes too big, such as a tree in the forest. It fails! Why? BECAUSE it became too big. think about it.

[-] 1 points by NortonSound (176) 3 years ago

And the roots were rotten. Even the squirrels wouldn't do business there any more.

[-] 0 points by mynameismoe (153) 3 years ago

That is GREAT NEWS. I can go to bed with only good dreams about our future. Thank you for telling us that our future will be much better and we dont need to worry. OWS people can now all go home.

[-] 1 points by NortonSound (176) 3 years ago

Yo, Mo, OWS is simply there to exchange ideas. The exchange from stupid corporations to smarter ones is already occuring, look and you will find. Not an instantaneous development, but watch out for the new things to come after there is enough exchange of ideas, networking and gaining of perspective from the mostly young OWS crowd and even greater numbers that are reading this post right now. The revolution is evolution, and evolution takes, timel, but it gets you there eventually. No, we have learned the penalty for coasting and cooling our heals, you are looking at people who are willing to freeze in the dark to make a point, watch out b ecause they are also willing to walk across hot coals to make a buck and make a much better mousetrap in the good ol' USA. Remember capitalism was born out of frustration with other feudal economic systems, was perfected and is being perfected again, nothing to be synical about, it's the same brains on the same problem, and you are much needed.

[-] 0 points by mynameismoe (153) 3 years ago

You and I can agree to disagree. I know where America stands compared to 32 other industrial countries concerning education. America rates pretty darn low. I also know that a HUGE number of students entering college today must enter remedial reading and math classes. The American system is greatly flawed and corporations cant find skilled employees. I know,,,, you dont believe it but,,,, I understand this to be a fact. Contact your local college and aske about all the remedial education needed for many incoming students. Corporations continue to look for the best,,, as well as hard workers willing to "learn" and climb the ladder.

[-] 1 points by NortonSound (176) 3 years ago

I went to college thirty years ago, and there were plenty of remedial peers then, too. That is my point, these are not fantasy high schoolers of my own imagination, and these are not fantasy corporate chiefs of my imagination, either. Just compare the two and you decide. Actually, for some reason, I am more often impressed with the quality of education, politeness and drive of today's young Americans, and I believe that too many corporate chiefs of today are intoxicated with cheap overseas labor to notice, and that just a handful of culturally and technically sophistocated high schoolers can and will replace them like dried leaves, and we will be here to see it happen in the upcoming decade. Store this thought away and if this turns out to be true, don't kick yourself because you didn't buy stock in their new American based companies. American labor, American customers, American innovation, almost always comes out of youth, and it will come like a freight train this time, because they can do more with less, and it's often not recognized for what it is by the comfort zone crowd who think they are all-that.

[-] 0 points by mynameismoe (153) 3 years ago

I graduate 42 years ago. Terrible speller and grammer, but a whiz at math and software programming. I dont disagree with your last post. Actually, I encourage your last post. There are great opportunities for the future. There are opportuntities for creating new businesses to compete against those that are off shore now. There are opportuntities for great personal wealth. I see the problem with a liberal driven school system. A liberal driven college and liberal driven university and liberal driven politicia system that has promoted many failed agenda's. THE POOR KEEP GETTING POORER for the last 50+ years. But those that want to be rich can and can get richer,,, in MOST,,, but not all cases. The OWS agenda is yet another one that dumb down our youth and society. Their mission is to put fear in the mind of people that wants to excel.

[-] 1 points by NortonSound (176) 3 years ago

Could be fear based, but I like to see it as networking in a weird way, due to the failures, which I hate to say are from the growing reliance on religion an superstion as the driving force on our school boards for the last twenty or so years. They are making school policy, doubting cause and affect, science and repeatable results. They have to throw up the voodoo to counterbalance repeatable science, as religious zealots have done since the dark ages. It's easy to blame the con's or the lib's but that is also a smoke screen, allowing the supersticious egomanics gain control of something they don't fully understand, that which is compensating like nature always does. Repeatable, always happens this way, never happens the other way. Not one example of a theocracy or dogma-based civilization surviving long through time.

[-] 0 points by mynameismoe (153) 3 years ago

Sorry,,,,,, I meant, I DO Agree.

[-] 0 points by RexDiamond (585) from Idabel, OK 3 years ago

anyone.

[-] 0 points by journey4word (214) 3 years ago

umnn those corporations wont exist. remember we, THE 99%, are opposed to corporations, jobs, businesses. we just want a giant welfare state ran by our supreme leader Barack Husein Osama. in ten years there will be no businesses here. only the converted Islamic Slaves, and the dead.

[-] 1 points by NortonSound (176) 3 years ago

You didn't really put any thought into this rant. I expect better from you next time. You can live in a fact-free universe if you want, but watch out here comes a real asteroid, Oh too bad, you didn;t duck when a real threat came around because you were too busy burying your head in the sand.

[-] 0 points by journey4word (214) 3 years ago

another genius reply from another genius obamination slave

[-] 1 points by NortonSound (176) 3 years ago

Anger takes no effort, are you filthy rich and is some one writing these words for you because they still have provided no facts. Sharp turns ahead, oh you don't have to look out the windshield do you, you're...special. Ignorance is the job-killer's dream come true, Please re-submit your comment and provide some facts.

[-] 0 points by journey4word (214) 3 years ago

fact: you are an idiot.

fact 2? enough facts

[-] 1 points by NortonSound (176) 3 years ago

Facts are not fattening, they are solid, little foundation stones that actually hold up an argument exatly like the steel beams of a building. Take out enough beams and the buildingis going to fall down, and even the people with nothing left bu to call others idiots will suffer the consequences. Without facts, you are just blowing smoke, trying to give you an out from the baseless anxiety you are feeling. There is nothing to be afraid of because you got this far didn't you?

[-] 0 points by journey4word (214) 3 years ago

and BTW, i never disagreed with your post.

[-] 0 points by journey4word (214) 3 years ago

seriously I'm bored to death. if you want facts just name a topic and lets talk about it

[-] 1 points by NortonSound (176) 3 years ago

I am continually collecting facts like a butterfly collector, throwing out the ones that won't fly, all I am asking is for you to do the same, and to never be tricked to invest your heart in heresay, you are better than that.

[-] 0 points by DudleyE (94) 3 years ago

Is this for real? The high school students that I encounter are just above the level of mentally handicapped. Count your change at the store people, every single time!!!

[-] 1 points by NortonSound (176) 3 years ago

Thanks for your response, DudleyE...Yes, but the average high school student, and I'm talkin' average here, are ten times smarter than any one running a job-killing corporation. I'd trust a pierced, tatoo, daydreaming teenager to run some of these banks over the dullarts who are there now. Hey, those kids can kick ass in new technology that today runs our lives, and middle agers may find invisible, that's the point. The dullards who are killing jobs to keep their own have an iq even smaller than their world view.

[-] 1 points by DudleyE (94) 3 years ago

If you're talking about the job killers, the only ones I know of that fit your description are in DC. You guys are in the wrong city!

[-] 1 points by NortonSound (176) 3 years ago

Well, Sir or Mam, I am not there at all I am recovering from an injury and already successful enough for me. I think that it is the job-killers who want us to believe that the military, the court system, the poison control center are the enemy because that's the next frontier on making bs money. They are not willing to work any more and to experience discomfort in making money. They are really not much interested in making things, but mining for gold in some one's gold pan. Take away the sheriff, and all they need is a big bully to grab your hard earned paychek. The thin blue line is the only thing protecting us from the greedy grabbers who's dream is to be the next Khadaffy, did I spell that right? Thanks again!

[-] 0 points by Frankie (733) 3 years ago

You must be young because you appear to think that computers and the Net, networking, object-oriented programming, etc, etc., just popped up like mushrooms on the lawn some time when you were a kid. Who do you think came up with and built all that shit that you're using now? You think that because you use Facebook and Twitter from a mobile device that somehow makes you a technological genius? lol

Actually, If you're a 20-something, then you really have no idea how easy you have it now versus the techincal skills required eariler and how relatively trivial any real advances/changes have happened over the last 15 or so years.

[-] 1 points by NortonSound (176) 3 years ago

Thanks for your response. We all know what the average high schooler and graduate are like today, and we all know what the average job-killing corporate chiefs are like today, nuf said. My money's on the high schooler, you go ahead and put your money where you want it. And good luck with that, food stamps are there if you need them.

[-] 0 points by Frankie (733) 3 years ago

Yes, we do and your posts here demonstrate that very well. Although not necessarily in the way that you might like. lol But then everyone tends to think that they''re the shit when they're young.

And if you want to talk about food stamps then you might want to check out the figures for relative weatlh by age. Good luck "bro" lmao ; )

[-] 1 points by NortonSound (176) 3 years ago

Fixated on age are we?
Put ten grand on citibank and wait a year, Don't come crying to me.

[-] 0 points by Frankie (733) 3 years ago

You're the one who posted about age not me.

I've already made all of the money that I wanted out of C. That ride's over for the forseeable future.

[-] 1 points by NortonSound (176) 3 years ago

Yes, the forseeable future is a long long time, Do you think there is anybody leading them that has an idea of what to do about it?

[-] 0 points by Frankie (733) 3 years ago

Actually, if you really knew wtf you were talking about, then you'd know that Pandit has been about the best of the bunch as far as taking responsibility for the fuck ups and digging out from where they were.

In any case, they'll be around longer than you guys will. lol

[-] 1 points by NortonSound (176) 3 years ago

Crystal ball may need a little cleaning. That has yet to be written.

[-] 0 points by Frankie (733) 3 years ago

That's one of the benefits of age... You learn along the way and you've seen a lot of the same shit before so you can make better judgements like that.

[-] 1 points by NortonSound (176) 3 years ago

innovation almost always comes from the young. And we soon find it invaluable and wonder how we ever did without it. That is all that is happening. Nothing to be anxious about.