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Forum Post: hey guys, can you help us get a "Call Center" bill passed in NY?

Posted 2 years ago on June 17, 2012, 7:09 p.m. EST by myows (133)
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You can help end taxpayer Subsidies to Companies like Verizon that are shipping call center jobs overseas.

Over the past four years, the United States has lost at least 500,000 call center jobs as businesses have opted to relocate offshore. In addition to limiting employment opportunities for struggling families, the use of foreign call centers present a number of security concerns with respect to protecting American's personal confidential information.

In an effort to combat unemployment in New York State, this bill holds companies that out source jobs accountable. This legislation directs the commissioner to compile a semi-annual list of all call center employers in NYS that relocate jobs overseas and publicly discloses this information to all state agencies. Additionally, call center employers that appear on the list will be ineligible for state grants, guaranteed loans and tax benefits. This measure gives companies throughout the state an incentive to support New York's workforce, as opposed to negligently shipping jobs abroad. In light of the current economic climate, it is fiscally irresponsible to continue to reward with taxpayer dollars and state subsidies, businesses that relocate jobs.

Senator Tim Kennedy has introduced legislation, S6918, which would bar companies that off shore call center jobs from receiving NY state contracts, subsidies, grants and tax breaks.

Please call your local NY Senator and ask him to co sponsor/support S6918 and to make sure the Senate passes the bill before the end of the session on June 21st.

Thank you!

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[-] 2 points by votasaurus (62) 2 years ago

I support this. Hope it gets passed!

[-] 1 points by myows (133) 2 years ago

Thank you!

[-] 2 points by jimmycrackerson (940) from Blackfoot, ID 2 years ago

Ever have to deal with tech support from someone in India or Malaysia? Don't worry, the corporations really just shot themselves in the foot by offshoring callcenters to people who can barely communicate with their customers.

Or maybe it was a good move on their part. If the foreign employees can convince the American customers they're incompetent, the problems really never get addressed and the corporations can save money in the short-term by doing what they do best, selling shitty products and neglecting their customers' concerns.

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[-] -3 points by commonsensefolks (-55) 2 years ago

"Additionally, call center employers that appear on the list will be ineligible for state grants, guaranteed loans and tax benefits. "

So what you're telling me is there will be less competition for work as more companies exit, higher costs for remaining businesses to be passed on to the tax payer. Did you notice everyone is vacating your state already? Check for yourself:

http://interactive.taxfoundation.org/migration/

Your brilliance astounds me!

[-] 2 points by myows (133) 2 years ago

You are an apologist for corporate bad behavior. What you're saying is that we shouldn't have a law like this because it will just just make the scumbag corporations move to another state that doesn't mind them selling the American middle class down the river? OK so then let's pass a law like this in all 50 states and keep the American middle class alive instead of making a few thousand people billionaires while the rest of us figure out if we should have dog food or cat food for dinner. I like the idea that there are actually some politicians that are concerned that corporations are getting tax breaks and selling out the American middle class at the same time. You don't seem to have a problem with 500,000 American jobs being lost, Why?

[-] -3 points by commonsensefolks (-55) 2 years ago

Then why don't you do something to incentivize keeping jobs here in the USA instead of DRIVING them overseas?

Your mentality is literally driving people AWAY. You're so wrapped up in it, you don't even see it anymore!

[-] 3 points by myows (133) 2 years ago

How am I driving jobs overseas? By being paid a decent wage to do the job? I guess we should all take 2 bucks a day with no benefits and then the kind hearted CEO's (that make 25 million $$ a year) will decide to keep the jobs in America. This is such a race to the bottom for 99% of the public but yet you just keep defending these bad corporate citizens.

[-] 2 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 2 years ago

because we couldn't possibly

tax the resources being drawn from our lands and help ourselves

..

oh no

we need big bad labor abuser to come home

[-] 3 points by myows (133) 2 years ago

Are you trying to make the point that these corporations are sending call center jobs overseas because of regulations? Really? Tell me what regulations there are in effect that are causing companies to outsource call center jobs to India and the Philippines? This is total bullshit. The reason corporations send these jobs overseas is simply because they can pay those people 2 bucks a day with no benefits. It's amazing that these greedy SOB's consider an average workers living wage to be a drain on the company but their 25 million dollar a year salary is justified. (in their own mind)

[-] 2 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 2 years ago

that and Indians are polite on the phone

[-] -1 points by commonsensefolks (-55) 2 years ago

International Implications of Sarbanes-Oxley: Raising the Rent on U.S. Law

Larry E. Ribstein

University of Illinois College of Law; PERC - Property and Environment Research Center

U Illinois Law & Economics Research Paper No. LE03-005

Abstract:
The spectacular crashes and frauds of Enron and other US companies triggered a legislative response in the US in the form of the Sarbanes-Oxley Act of 2002 ("Sarbanes-Oxley"). This Act is likely to have unintended effects not only in the US, but also in international securities markets in which the US is a dominant player. Sarbanes-Oxley reflects a potential shift in the philosophy underlying the US securities law from disclosure to substantive regulation of corporate governance. This shift could deter foreign firms from listing in the US, or otherwise becoming subject to US law. This is significant because some foreign firms in effect "rent" US law in order to overcome deficiencies in their home country law. By raising this rent, Sarbanes-Oxley may reduce the demand for US law, blocking non-US firms from moving toward more efficient governance and impeding the internationalization of securities markets and laws. Alternatively, the SEC and perhaps Congress may forestall such flight by subjecting foreign-based firms to a lower level of regulation. This may encourage the development of country-based choice of governance rules, and therefore a kind of jurisdictional choice regime. The adoption of separate regulatory regimes for foreign and US issuers may, in turn, cause US regulators to reduce regulation of US as well as of foreign firms. Thus, international effects ultimately may constrain US regulation, most likely by curtailing the move from disclosure to substantive regulation of governance.

Number of Pages in PDF File: 30

Keywords: Securities regulation, jurisdictional competition, international securities regulation, cross-listing, Sarbanes-Oxley, corporate governance, law and finance

http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=401660

[-] 0 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 2 years ago

many many jobs don' migrate

they become out dated

[-] -3 points by commonsensefolks (-55) 2 years ago

Ummm, that's been the way forever. I know Obama whined about ATM machines putting people out of jobs, but those have been around for a long, long time. Hmmm. What should we blame next? Big Pharma, Oil, Walmart, the weather, Las Vegas, corporate jets, the color of the sky, Bush, Germany, China, the Washington Redskins?

The excuses are getting tiring.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 2 years ago

the centralization of capital as automation puts people out of work