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Forum Post: Here We Go Again. Let's Lie About WMDs And Start Another War To Cripple This Country Some more. Yeah....We Can Totally Afford This!

Posted 6 years ago on Feb. 3, 2012, 12:36 p.m. EST by XXAnonymouSXX (455)
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It’s deja vu all over again. The American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) is trying to trick America into another catastrophic war with a Middle Eastern country on behalf of the Likud Party’s colonial ambitions, and The New York Times is lying about allegations that said country is developing “weapons of mass destruction.”

In an article attributed to Steven Erlanger on January 4 (“Europe Takes Bold Step Toward a Ban on Iranian Oil”), this paragraph appeared:

The threats from Iran, aimed both at the West and at Isreal, combined with a recent assessment by the international Atomic Energy Agency that Iran's nuclear program has a military objective, is becoming an important issue in the American Presidential campaign.

The claim that there is “a recent assessment by the International Atomic Energy Agency that Iran’s nuclear program has a military objective” is a lie.



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[-] 3 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 6 years ago

only the US is allowed the blow the world up x10 over

[-] 2 points by relthinkr (64) 6 years ago

I hope Iran does get nukes, so they can defend themselves from that crazy lil "democracy" in the middle east that enjoys ethnically cleansing and the worst apartheid in known history.

Iran hasn't attacked a nation in 200 years !

right lil commie lizards?

[-] 2 points by freewriterguy (882) 6 years ago

LOL good point. Im so tired of wars, I wonder how the lord thinks of our killing hundreds of thousands of others, and if this is playing an effect on our blessings here in america.


[-] 1 points by SparkyJP (1646) from Westminster, MD 6 years ago

Jackson Browne - The Drums Of War


Roll out the drums of war Roll up the cover of the killing floor Roll out the drums of war And let’s speak of things worth fighting for Roll out the drums of war

Time comes when everything you ever thought you knew Comes crashing down and flames rise up in front of you

Roll out the drums of war Roll back the freedoms that we struggled for What were those freedoms for? Let’s not talk about it any more Roll out the drums of war Roll out the drums of war If you know what your freedom’s for

Whatever you believe the necessary course to be Depends on who you trust to identify the enemy Who beats the drums for war? Even before peace is lost Who are the profits for? And who are they who bear the cost When a country takes the low road to war

Who gives the orders, orders to torture? Who gets to no bid contract the future? Who lies, then bombs, then calls it an error? Who makes a fortune from fighting terror? Who is the enemy trying to crush us? Who is the enemy of truth and justice? Who is the enemy of peace and freedom? Where are the courts, now when we need them? Why is impeachment not on the table? We better stop them while we are able Roll out the drums of war Roll out the drums of war If you know what your freedom,s for

Whatever you believe the necessary course to be Depends on who you trust to identify the enemy Who took this country to war? Long before the peace was lost Who are the profits for? And who are they who bear the cost And who lay down their lives? And who will live with the sacrifice Of our best and brightest hopes, The flower of our youth, Of freedom, and the truth?

[-] 1 points by Nicolas (258) from Québec, QC 6 years ago

Even if Iran does want to get its hands on nuclear weapons, I don't get what's the endgame here.

I mean, it totally makes sense for them to want nuclear weapons : Israel has them, middle-east countries have kinda been falling over like dominoes lately, they have precious natural resources and they know if push comes to shove they haven't the strength, diplomatically or militarily, to stand up to the occidental nations. From their perspective, nuclear weapons are security.

Do we really expect countries to eternally accept a situation where they live and die by the whim and economic needs of foreign powers? I don't want to indulge too much in wishful thinking, but if we keep treating countries like rogue states that is how they'll behave. Not because the power grabbing assholes at the top are really poor victims, but because we give credibility to the rhetoric they use to keep their populations in line.

In the long run, we have to hope and work towards the normalization of those countries, and that does mean treating them as equals. Or we have to be honest with ourselves. If we do force them to desist this time, by whatever means, they will try again when they can. And again. And again. And we will have to periodically set them back, and bomb their society to rubbles. Until we screw up, or they get lucky.

Will it be time then to extend the hand of friendship? How hollow will "let bygones be bygones" sound?

Then again, who knows, what if there is a mess up and they do end up striking at someone with nukes? There wouldn't be peace in the world for decades or centuries hence. Or there would be lots of peace, but also a lot less people and a lot more glassy landscapes.

Power plays suck.

[-] 1 points by XXAnonymouSXX (455) 6 years ago

I agree. Very well said.

[-] 1 points by nichole (525) 6 years ago

The MIC is a necessary pillar for our current economy and you cannot blame Israel for our tendency to war-monger (lots of jobs will be lost when we declare peace). Relationship of convenience I suppose. Short-sightedness by all involved.

[-] 1 points by XXAnonymouSXX (455) 6 years ago

So we are just supposed to keep going to war so our economy doesn't collapse? I got news for you. The economy has already collapsed and we are headed in a terrifying direction. The globalists want to destroy americas sovereignty so they can have their NWO. I for one don't like where we are going. WW3 is coming. I hope you're prepared to face it.


[-] 1 points by theshadowranger (20) 6 years ago

The war propaganda is being ramped up just like with Iraq. Obama, Gingrich, Romney, and Santorum all support military action with Iran. The only candidate opposing it is Ron Paul. So I suggest you all prepare for a few more years of senseless war.

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 6 years ago

Here's what the real "problem" is with Iran; they don't want to trade their oil for US dollars any more. >>>>>>>>>


Sidestepping U.S. imposed sanctions on Iran, India is planning to pay for Iranian oil in gold, with China considering following the move. India, which buys 22 percent of Iran's oil exports, has reportedly agreed to pay in gold for oil, thus avoiding U.S. imposed sanctions on dealing with the Islamic Republic. According to Iranwpd, China, which accounts for 13 percent of Iran's oil exports, may follow India's lead. India and China are both opposed to sanctions against Iran.

Read more: http://digitaljournal.com/article/318404#ixzz1ktFuVnEq

[-] 1 points by XXAnonymouSXX (455) 6 years ago

Its because they see how the american dollar is being devalued and destroyed. I wouldn't want to take on a bunch of currency that's gonna be worthless by the end of the year either. Who can blame anyone who doesn't want dollars for their goods anymore. The globalists are going to devalue the dollar until its not the reserve currency anymore. It will be worthless.

[-] 1 points by FriendlyObserverB (1871) 6 years ago

Dollar devaluation is a last desperate attempt to economic recovery.





[-] 0 points by asauti (-113) from Port Orchard, WA 6 years ago

You say: "Yeah we can totally afford this!".

True. But the cost won't be on the people that will reap the benefits.

The cost will be on:

1) The individual men and women fighting the war, and their families.

2) The American people as the government will continue to take money out of people's paychecks. This money will then be used to give to the farmers that will grow the food to feed the troops that fight in the war.

If you are truly afraid that the U.S. government and the people pulling the strings "cannot afford it", remember, they are the one's with the Printing Presses. And those presses print dollars On Demand.

[-] 1 points by XXAnonymouSXX (455) 6 years ago

I was being sarcastic with that part of my statement. I was really saying we can't afford it.

[-] 0 points by asauti (-113) from Port Orchard, WA 6 years ago

Yes, I knew you were being sarcastic. I think we are "on the same page" of not wanting yet another war.

[-] 1 points by XXAnonymouSXX (455) 6 years ago

We made the mistake of believing the lies before. I pray we are awake enough to see through them this time around. I fear we are to distracted with celebrities and video games though.

[-] 1 points by asauti (-113) from Port Orchard, WA 6 years ago

The "We" in "we made the mistake of believing the lies" does not include me.

Even during the time that the claims were being made, I did not believe the propaganda about the reasons for the Iraq invasion.

I also do not generally believe in the propaganda that is being made about Iran, now. Sure, there might be some truth to some of the various news reports, but I would put those news stories at about 70% lies and 30% truth.

[-] 1 points by XXAnonymouSXX (455) 6 years ago

We is being used as a generalized statement for the american public. Do I really need to clarify that? C'mon. I agree with you though. The presstitute media propaganda machine is always manufacturing lies to feed the sleeping public. Watching the big networks makes my stomach turn anymore. Just a big distraction from what's happening right in front of our faces.


[-] 0 points by utahdebater (-72) 6 years ago

Do you have evidence to back up your claim that "The claim that there is 'a recent assessment by the International Atomic Energy Agency that Iran’s nuclear program has a military objective' is a lie."?

[-] 1 points by Mooks (1985) 6 years ago

I doubt it. There is no doubt in my mind that Iran's nuclear program is for both military and energy purposes. I am not sure why people seem to think it can only be one or the other.